[MR] "Woven" lace??

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There are also a number of lace weaves made by manually manipulating the threads.  As such, these weaves would not have been controlled by heddles and could be woven on any loom, including warp weighted looms.  
 
However, "could have" and "did" are two different things and research is not my strong point.  I have no idea if such weaves were used in period or if they even could be used as lace was in period.
 
Margherita
 
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It has been suggested on another list that these "woven laces" might  
actually be narrow bands.  The word "laz", translated as "lace", actually  
refers to 
what we call "lacings" and not "lace" as in "frilly stuff Elizabeth  wore 
yards of".  If so, then a loom for weaving lace might be a band  loom.
 
Eunice Rathbone Goddard, in her "Women's Costume in French Texts of the  
Eleventh and Twelfth Centuries" [actually 12th and 13th centuries] (Baltimore:  
Johns Hopkins Press, 1927), gives the following:
laz, vb. lacier -- These were lacings, and the verg form mean 'to  lace'.  
Lacings are described as being made of silk and of 'orfois' [bands  with gold[.  

That is probably paraphrased as I just got it from my own book,  
"Ecclesiastical Pomp".
 
Nancy / Ingvild
 

I  happened across a description of a pageant in
Norwich in the 1570s that  included paintings of the
various types of looms used to weave specialty  fabrics
in the city, and one is for weaving lace. I have
seperate  documentary references for people weaving
lace in the city, making needle  lace, and making
bobbin lace (most of whom were children, BTW).

I'm  not a lace person, but this is bugging me! What
type of lace was woven on  looms? Any extant examples
online??


 
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