[MR] Re: Scots and Iraq

[Richard & Florence Evans]

My two cents on Atlantis:

Atlantis is not a mythical land.  It is an allegorical land.  First
described in Plato's Republic, Plato used Atlantis as an example of a world
in relation to Plato's philosophy of Forms (specifically the general Form of
Governance).  Although he describes Atlantis as existing once, long ago and
destroyed by the gods (this is a paraphrase), it is far more likely that
this was a literary technique more than a historical description.  Plato
uses this technique extensively in his writing.  The Allegory of the Cave
(also in the Republic) describes a cave where people are kept for entire
lifetimes in very controlled conditions.  No one has ever proposed that such
a cave actually existed.  It was always considered to be a literary
technique to describe, by analogy, humanities' limited perception of Forms.
The same can be said of the Dialogues of Euthyphro and Meno.  These
characters did not actually exist.  They were simply characters used to help
describe the problems involved with defining the specific Forms of Justice
and Knowledge, respectively.

Why this Atlantis allegory has become 'myth based on fact' is anyone's
guess.  The same could be said of the Lovecraft stories describing an
ancient civilization in Antarctica, or the Howard stories of a Hyborian Age.
I should think that we hold on to such things because they are written in
such a captivating way that we feel that, since they ought to have existed,
then they must of existed.

Ryryd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "t_neill t_neill" <t_neill at hotmail.com>
To: <sca-laurels at ansteorra.org>; <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:22 AM
Subject: [MR] Re: Scots and Iraq


> This quote makes me wonder about what their doco shows:
>
> "The programmes - accompanied by a book - also claim the mythical land of
> Atlantis existed in what we now know as the North Sea, and that many Scots
> spoke Old Welsh before Gaelic."
>
> Atlantis?  Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I wonder
what
> their evidence is.
>
> And are they saying very few Scots have Viking blood?  Because the area
was
> owned by Norway for a long time, and there certainly were vikings and
> scandinavians living there for centuries.
>
>
>
>   - Anarra Karlsdottir
>     East
>     Vikings raiding Scotland
>
> Dona Nobis Pacem
>
>
>
>
> >From: SNSpies at aol.com
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> >Subject: [SCA-Laurels] Scots and Iraq (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number
365)
> >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:38:25 EST
> >
> >
> >This is wild!
> >Nancy / Ingvild
> >
> >
> >On the  DNA front, one in five Scots has a blood tie to  Iraq:
> >
> >http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050115/17/fac6n.html
> >
> >
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