From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. 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Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. 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Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. 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Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. 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Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. 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Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. 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Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maccoinneach at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:07:52 2005 From: maccoinneach at gmail.com (Ciaran MacCoinneach) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: [MR] Book of Days? Message-ID: I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:16:33 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris From SNSpies at aol.com Fri Apr 1 10:24:04 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4@aol.com> In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins From nix at iolinc.net Fri Apr 1 12:51:14 2005 From: nix at iolinc.net (Nicholas S. Malone) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [MR] Seeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac@co.dss.state.va.us> Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jlball at wm.edu Fri Apr 1 13:47:17 2005 From: jlball at wm.edu (Jessica Ball) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar Message-ID: Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester From wmauldin at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 16:01:58 2005 From: wmauldin at adelphia.net (Bill Mauldin) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: [MR] RE: Book of days In-Reply-To: <20050402170010.101171C324E@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050403000212.ZLD5402.mta11.adelphia.net@BLACK> Here's the URL for the Catholic Encyclopedia on line. The site is easy to use and very helpful. It might not have what you wanted directly (I'm not sure.) I have a couple of books on saints and could look up a few of them for you if you can go by name. Searching for a date would take a little longer. http://www.newadvent.org/ Geffrei -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:00 PM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 Send Atlantia mailing list submissions to atlantia at atlantia.sca.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to atlantia-request at atlantia.sca.org You can reach the person managing the list at atlantia-owner at atlantia.sca.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Atlantia digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Book of Days? (Ciaran MacCoinneach) 2. on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 3. chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) (SNSpies at aol.com) 4. Seeds (Nicholas S. Malone) 5. Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar (Jessica Ball) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:07:52 -0500 From: Ciaran MacCoinneach Subject: [MR] Book of Days? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate year of sainthood. YIS, Ciaran MacCoinneach -- Complexity requires space ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:16:33 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] on-line books available (Fwd: Artssciences Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:01:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, artssciences-request at lists.gallowglass.org writes: Here's a list of the pre-1650-relevant online books recently added to the "Online Books Page", one of several online listings of books that are monitored on the SCA Books page. This listing is now up to about 1,400 books. The listing is organized by subject. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/ http://AandS.org/books.html This month I also added a listing of pre-1650 Project Gutenberg books which aren't in the Online Books Page list. There are about 500. http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/onlinebooks/gutenberg.html -- Gregory Blount The Babylonian Legends of the Creation and the Fight Between Bel and the Dragon, as told by Assyrian tablets from Nineveh (London: British Museum, 1921) Selections From the Table Talk of Martin Luther, by Martin Luther, ed. by Henry Morley, trans. by Henry Bell The Public Orations of Demosthenes, by Demosthenes, trans. by Arthur Wallace Pickard-Cambridge Stories From Thucydides, by H. L. Havell, contrib. by Thucydides The Suppliants, by Aeschylus, trans. by E. D. A. Morshead Cicero's Brutus, or, History of Famous Orators; Also, His Orator, or, Accomplished Speaker, by Marcus Tullius Cicero, trans. by E. Jones Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged in the XVth Century (1878), by John Wilson Ross The Praise of Folly, by Desiderius Erasmus, trans. by John Wilson The Book of the Dead (Papyrus of Ani) (based on the 1913 Medici Society text), trans. by E. A. Wallis Budge Catherine de' Medici, by Honoré de Balzac, trans. by Katharine Prescott Wormeley Beowulf: An Anglo-Saxon Poem; The Fight at Finnsburh: A Fragment, ed. by James Albert Harrison, Robert Sharp, and Karl Hagen Hamlet (first quarto, 1603), by William Shakespeare The Man Shakespeare and His Tragic Life Story, by Frank Harris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:04 EST From: SNSpies at aol.com Subject: [MR] chatelaines and brooches (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1) To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, brighthills at yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <1e5.392c76fc.2f7eebc4 at aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In a message dated 4/1/2005 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links subject is Chatelaines (the jewelry-and-keychain variety) and brooches. Imagine what sort of confusion you'd find if you were using a search engine and entered the words "medieval" and "chatelaine". I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know that the future of the SCA is secure in that wonderful office we call Chatelaine, however this links list is about medieval jewelry, not newcomers. Specifically, the type of jewelry that holds your clothes together, that carries your needle case, mini-snips, etc and the sort you pin to your shert for decoration. Surprisingly, in doing this research I learned that the pin chatelaine dates to Roman times, and that nearly every one of us medieval females who claim to run a house should have one of simpler or more complex design, depending upon the date of our personae. Apparently, earlier on men also wore them (sometimes to carry a dagger as well as keys), and a chatelaine was a perfect wedding present, the token of a man's trust in his new wife. If you enjoy these Links, please pass them along where they will be appreciated. Cheers Aoife A Visual and Historical Perspective on "Purses"and "Evening Bags ­ the Ever Adaptable Fashion Accessory by Rita Vainius http://www.caron-net.com/jan99files/jan99fea.html (Site Excerpt) Though this purse made by Martina Weber, is not old, it is typical of the type used by the lady of the house many centuries ago. From left to right, it includes a silk Bargello needle holder, a replica of a pewter needle case, a dololly (an accessory to pull the last piece of thread through stitches on the back. Also part of the dololly is a heart pin with a wire loop), a pair of scissors in a pewter case, a silver butterfly pincushion attached to a square brooch, a silver and red velvet charm, an Austrian wear-at-the-belt purse made of metal and an "Emery" strawberry made of red felt containing powder for sharpening and cleaning needles and pins ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:51:14 -0500 From: "Nicholas S. Malone" Subject: [MR] Seeds To: "'Merry Rose'" Message-ID: <003c01c536fc$8ec23d40$8a0216ac at co.dss.state.va.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those that responded, all the seeds I have this year went out to 3 sources today. The response was far beyond what I could accommodate, but I'm thinking with this much interest we could really get something going. IS there anyone else doing heritage growing, Stuff we can reasonably put into period varieties. I know plants change so fast that these are real stretches, we often have to settle for the same size shape color as a period variety. AshaHito [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Jessica Ball Subject: [MR] Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would my contacts please send this out to your respective lists: The Middle and Eastern Virginia Regional Calendar for April 2005, covering the groups of the College of Rencester, Caer Gelynniog, and Yarnvid, the Shires of Berley Cort and Isenfir, the Canton of River's Point and the Baronies of Caer Mear, Marinus, and Tir-y-Don and various events from around Atlantia, has been uploaded. Please check out: http://rencester.atlantia.sca.org/calendar.html Please check the calendar for corrections, and submit your corrections and additions via email to this address. Yours in Service, Francesca Marino (Jessica Ball) Webminister for the College of Rencester ------------------------------ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia End of Atlantia Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 *************************************** From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 18:23:20 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [MR] Coronation Photos Message-ID: <20050403022320.30400.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some photos from Coronation today taken by my daughter, Lady Aelfwynn of Boscastle. I'm sorry if you receive this more than once. You mar need to copy and paste if the link has been cut in half. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=b11b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/my_photos Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From ladysmith at oakenhammer.org Sat Apr 2 18:30:19 2005 From: ladysmith at oakenhammer.org (Elizabeth Schechter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Crown competition? Message-ID: <424F553B.909@oakenhammer.org> What were the results???? -- Elizabeth Schechter House Oakenhammer SCA: Aurelia Aurifaber. Barony of Bright Hills, Kingdom of Atlantia. http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladysmith/ "Imperium um Recognor" From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:08 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:28:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Shameless Class Plug:Feasting on A Budget Message-ID: <28702612.1112531288846.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Shameless Plug for the following class to be held at the June University. Teaching the class will be Brianna O'Duinn, both an excellent cook, and an amazing feastocrat. Feasting on a Budget. Have you ever wanted to set up a sumptious, elegant, feast, but paled when you added up your costs? This class will show you how to prepare, present, and have that amazing feast that everyone will go home talking about, without breaking the bank. Forwarded by Request Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat Spring/Summer University The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom, for you never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. -paraphrase, William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Proverbs of Hell From clevin at ripco.com Sun Apr 3 05:33:28 2005 From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 07:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] Book of Days? (fwd) Message-ID: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Ciaran: > I'm looking for a "book of days" resource for period Christian feasts, > festival and what have you. Can anyone recommend a good cheap > (preferably free) resource? I only need names, dates, and approximate > year of sainthood. For figuring out the general outline of the calendar, I would suggest a skinny book that historians of English history happily push on their grad students, called the Handbook of Dates for for Students of English History. It's got a list of saints' days & other landmarks of the year. If you need something that gives you the date when the person was recognized as a saint, yes, the Catholic Encyclopedia's pretty good, but I'd like to point out that a lot of saints weren't created in the same way as the modern RCC creates them. Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:10:15 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:10:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Possible Camping at June University Message-ID: <14349975.1112533815716.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The site for the June University has motels within 20-30 minutes of the site in several directions. However, there is the possibility that we may be able to reserve a primitive site for tent camping. If you are interested or intrigued by this possibility, here are the advantages and limitations of the facility. Site Advantages: You are across the street from the site, within 3 minutes walking distance. This site is discreetly wet. Site Restricitions: Although individual fire pits dug in ground would not be allowed, campers may bring their own grills or portable firepits, etc. A Port-a-john would be available, showers are iffy. There is one shower available at the school, it works, but is NOT a luxury shower by any means. I repeat it is a primitive shower!!! Water is available across the street at the school as well as ice. These facilities would only be available at certain times during the week-end, due to the school security policy i.e., times would be set up when the autocrat or the autocrat's designee can be available to monitor the facilities. These times would be posted well in advance of the week-end. The site is fronted by a country road. Small children must be supervised. If you would like a space to the rear, you must request one. Spaces are limited but would be available from Friday at 3:00 p.m. until Sunday at noon. These spaces would go by reservation only. No refunds on camp spaces. Camp Spaces would reserve at the following rate: $10 per tent minimum for 2 adults and up to two minors. $5 extra for each adult, $3.00 extra for each child aged 5-17. Please send all letters of interest to: allegranza at earthlink.net In your letter of interest, please state the following: your tent size the numbers and ages in your party a valid email address in the body of the letter working telephone number and a good time to be contacted. SCA Names and Mundane Names of adults that may be contacted at the number above concerning this matter Note sending a letter of interest, does NOT guarantee that these spaces will be available. If there is sufficient interest, I will contact the owner, make the necessary preparations, contact the parties who have responded to this missive, for first chance at these spaces, and then I will re-open to the list again for reservations. Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 06:51:52 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:51:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Lunch and Post Revel for June University Message-ID: <3167829.1112536312518.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Due to the limited number of available restaurants near the site (there is one restaurant within a 20 minute drive of the site), The Shire of Crannog Mor will be serving the following meals at the Spring Session of University: Lunch: A tasty lunch will be provided for the modest fee of $3.00 per plate. This will include one meat dish (chicken), two sides and a bread selection. Vegetarian Plates may be requested in advance only through a paid reservation. Any other dietary concerns should be addressed in your reservation letter. Post Revel: The cost of the feast is $6.00, children 4 and under are guests of the Shire. It will include two removes and a dessert. After feast there will be dancing and a bardic circle. For more information regarding the menu's of these meals, please contact Lady Graciela Esperanza de Sevilla at mysticsablewolf at hotmail.com If you are interested in either or both of these meals we STRONGLY urge you to pre-register. The only guaranteed plate is a paid plate and spaces are limited for the feast. Reservations for either meal should include the following information: Mundane and SCA Names and any Guests of the Shire (ages 4 and under) so that a seat may be reserved for them. Specify which meals you are paying for Checks should be written to The Shire of Crannog Mor, SCA Inc. and should be mailed to: Cathy Gates / Allegranza Marcovaldi 816 Coleman Ridge Road Galax, VA 24333 At registration you will receive a token(s), noting for which meals you have registered. Do not lose your token(s), you will not receive your meal(s) without the appropriate token. Drinks will be available, but are not included in the lunch price. It is NOT recommended that children under age 2, pregnant or nursing mothers drink the school tap water/or the tea and lemonade that will be served at feast. Yours in Service, Allegranza Marcovaldi Autocrat From allegranza at earthlink.net Sun Apr 3 07:18:28 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Allegranza) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [MR] Merchants: Spring University Message-ID: <33489893.1112537909058.JavaMail.root@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Merchants are invited and are welcomed by the Shire of Crannog Mor for the Spring Session of the University of Atlantia. There are two types of spaces available to merchants: Outdoor spaces If you have a dayshade/pavilion, you may reserve an outdoor space in the front lawn. If you will need tables please when you contact the autocrat to reserve your space, tell me your needs so that we may reserve tables for you. These spaces are available until dark, but must dismantled by the end of the day due to school safety policies. Indoor spaces Due to the size and layout of the facility indoor space is very limited. Indoor merchanting should be concluded by 5:30 p.m. Please contact the autocrat in advance so that we can best accommodate your needs. As this is a public school site, no live steel or sale of weaponry is allowed on the premises. If you have any questions or concerns about your wares please contact the autocrat. From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 08:42:08 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Gulf Wars Photos Message-ID: <20050403154208.75714.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> My pictures from Gulf Wars! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mrfletcher21133/album?.dir=ad41 Enjoy! Martelle Von Charlottenburg "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net Sun Apr 3 11:41:07 2005 From: morvyth_verch_morgan at cox.net (Morvyth verch Morgan) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:41:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... ~Morvyth From bmcellis at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 13:56:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] crash space for Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050403205630.16192.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this made it yet but I am helping with coordinating crash space for Tournament of Chivalry. If you need any please write me soon! Rebecca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From janielee at cox.net Sun Apr 3 16:12:41 2005 From: janielee at cox.net (Janie) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:12:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Christopher is allegorical not fictional was RE: Book of Days? In-Reply-To: <200504031233.j33CXSTq013439@shell2.ripco.com> Message-ID: <20050403231230.WFYO28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@owain> Sorry, I've done some reading on this: Christopher wasn't "completely fictional". His name was Minas. A professor at Cork College, Ireland, did extensive research and bases his conclusion on these few basic facts. Home town perspective: Minas was the soldier who went away to fight for the Roman army, became a Christian, was martyred, and his bones were brought home by the pope. Rome's perspective: Christopher was the foriegn-born boy who came to fight for Rome, became a Christian, was martyred, and the pope returned his bones to his home town. Minas and Christopher can be placed by surviving documents in the same places within a ten-year time frame. Final conclusion: Minas took the "allegorical" name of Christopher or literally "The Christ Bearer" upon his baptism to complete the break with his old life and begin his new life as a Christian. Taking a new name upon baptism was widely done at the time. The things one learns by searching the internet for the name St. Christopher.... Lady Gwendolyn Fitch whose son is named Christopher -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Craig Levin Some, like Christopher, were completely fictional people. Others were local martyrs or philanthropists or preachers whom the neighborhood recognized as obvious saints, & the bishop was happy to go along with it. Still others may have been baptized versions of the local religion's pantheon-I believe that some of the stories surrounding St. Bridget of Ireland have roots in pre-Christian Irish legends. Pedro From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:31:39 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cambok! Message-ID: <20050403233139.5718.qmail@web42208.mail.yahoo.com> And gentlemen in Atlantia now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That played cambok with us upon Coronation day. Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From mungoe1 at msn.com Sun Apr 3 17:15:15 2005 From: mungoe1 at msn.com (Lord Mungoe) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:15:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion May 13-15 Message-ID: To one and all greetings THe Baroney of Marinus is once again hosting Hero's Portion and Siege practice for the Kingdom. After the tourney to determine the Hero of the day, we will be offering the usual interesting Siege scenario that last year went the distance of 1 hour 50 minutes. As always I will have surprises and interesting challenges for Fighters, Archers, and engineers to work together and overcome. If you have a new idea for siege engines, siege craft, or anything else please contact me. I encourage safe experimentation. If you are interested in Marshaling for the event, or MIT sign off please contact me. We are expecting large numbers as this event has grown each year, and I will be needing Marshals in all disaplines for authorisations and the fighiting. Thank you From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:52:45 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Northern Regional War Practice - April 10 Message-ID: <42508FDD.9080903@aol.com> The howling winds of March, have been awaken by the sounds of battle in the South. If you are ready to shed the cold of winter from your bones, join me at the next Northern Regional War Practice - Sunday, April 10th; hosted by Ponte Alto. Spear Class to begin at Noon. Melees will begin at 1pm! Practice is behind the Tysons-Pimmit Regional Library 7584 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church. Directions: Take your best route to I-495. Get off at the exit for Tysons Corner at Route 7 East (Falls Church). The library is on the left about 1 mile towards Falls Church. Parking the library lot and go down the hill to the park. OR Take I-66 to the Route 7 (Falls Church) exit. Get off heading towards Tysons Corner. The library is on the right about one mile. Park in the library lot and go down the hill to the park. In service to Atlantia and the Dream, Abel Brem of Regnesfolc Future Northern Practices: May - open June 26th- Hosted by Dun Carraig, day after "Challenge of the Heart" July - Hosted By Storvik Out of Kingdom Events for the North to go: Blackstone Raids - (April 21st to April 24th 2005) http://www.blackstonemountain.net/index.asp From ruaidhriancu at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 20:02:44 2005 From: ruaidhriancu at comcast.net (William Fleming) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with the following awards. Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly Coral Branch Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent demise. The King is dead, long live the King! Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their Majesties named Their champions. Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. The business of the court follows. Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess Noelle, were welcomed into court. Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess Tessa, were welcomed into court. Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I have said too much...) Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess Order of the Rose Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her Majesty. The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as tokens by Their Majesties. Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their Majesties. Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the day?s competitions. ( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but will post them as I find them.) Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken Ivar Award of Arms The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! Your servant, Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu (Leig an cu comhartaich!) From ekaterina at adelphia.net Sat Apr 2 14:39:47 2005 From: ekaterina at adelphia.net (Karen Summerfelt-Hume) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Subject: [MR] For the fiber arts folks and woolaholics Message-ID: <001001c537d4$e02bf9e0$6401a8c0@Karen> Greetings all, Coming to Crown Tourney? Like any of the various fiber arts or interested in fiber sources - on the hoof? Well then - you're in luck! The weekend of Crown Tourney, May 7th and 8th, is also the weekend of the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival - one of the premier wool festivals in the US. Located at the Howard County Fairgrounds on MD rte 144 - just off of I-70 west of Baltimore City - the Sheep and Wool Festival offers everything from the live animal (sheep, goats, rabbits, Llama's, Alpaca's, etc.) to hides, fleece's, tools, books, bags of unprocessed wool, spun wool, and assorted odds and ends including herbs, seeds, soaps and recipe books. Knitting needles to niddy-noddies. Sheep shears to shepherd's crooks. Even a sheep dog trial. There is no entrance fee for the festival and it is roughly an hour and a half south west of the Crown Tourney site. For more information on the Sheep and Wool Festival go to www.sheepandwool.org or call them at 410-531-3647. They also have a mailing list you can sign up for at the festival. Oh - travel light, wear comfy walking shoes and try not to spend everything in your checkbook!! Feel free to share this information with anyone who might be interested. Chagan Khulan Bright Hills "The possibilities are endless, the limitations are in your mind" From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 07:41:33 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:41:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Bellatrix classes update (for ToC) Message-ID: <000601c53924$66303b50$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: *WH* Bellatrix classes update > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Olivier, please forward to merry rose. > > This is our current plan. > Duke Paul will be offering his basic fundamentals class on Friday night > April 15, starting at 5:30 p.m. > (email me for a space). > > This class is non-armored, but it does require an approximation of a > sword > and shield. The hands-on class is limited to 20 fighters, any more than > that > can "audit" the class and watch from the sidelines. > It will take from 2-3 hours. > > This same class will be repeated Sunday morning at the site (Optimist > Farm). > Time possibly 9:30 or 10 am - TBD. > The Fundamentals class on Sunday will be followed by the Perception and > Movement class, (2 hours) with a Q&A session to finish the day. > > Please email me *off list* if you are interested in taking the classes > (fundamentals, and Perception and movement are both limited to 20). > aenor at ipass.net The Q&A session is open to everyone. > > > Auditors needn't contact me. I am not on the Merry Rose, so if there is > relevant discussion here I am not receiving it. > > > > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From qchell at earthlink.net Mon Apr 4 08:54:47 2005 From: qchell at earthlink.net (Rachel/Rozsa) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:54:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: [bdunn] Flyer for "In a Phoenix Eye" Message-ID: <011101c5392e$a12284c0$bd4bfea9@5ckf201> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LordCristian2000" > June 18th " In a Phoenix Eye" > Barony of Sacred Stone > > Come and join the Barony of Sacred Stone in celebration of its 11th In a Phoenix Eye. This event is the Barony's premiere Arts and Sciences competition, and as in the previous year there will be an Inter-Baronial competition. There are over twenty categories in which to compete in, but to claim the pentathlon prize you must enter 5 categories. Each entrant will be asked to select a Barony to represent. > > Cost > Adult Members: $6.00 Day-trip > Adult Non-Members: $9.00 Day-trip > Children: 6-15 $2.00 > > The Site > Is the R.O. Huffman Center in Drexel N.C. The site will open at 8:30 am and close at 9:00 pm. > (Note: Site is Dry. Brewing competition only) > > Web Site > For all categories and competition rules please type > > http://tinyurl.com/5r9dy > > As we receive confirmation as to which Baronies will be competing they will be listed here. > > Autocrat / Reservations > Christian Thomas of York > ( Chris Prewitt) > 107 Linville St. > Morganton N.C. 28655 > 1(828) 439-8946 > lordcristian2000 at yahoo.com > > Directions > Find your best route to I-40 Exit 107 Drexel NC. > "from both East and West" > off the ramp turn right. > go 1.5 miles to traffic light > go through light > R.O. Huffman Center is .5 miles on left. > > "follow all SCA signs" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bdunn/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bdunn-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > From jthies at polaris.umuc.edu Mon Apr 4 10:05:46 2005 From: jthies at polaris.umuc.edu (Jennifer Thies) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Lady Ro Message-ID: <425173EA.3030807@polaris.umuc.edu> Greeting unto the tavern, I am in search of Lady Ro von Rhienfranken, member of Count Janos's household. I would like to reach her regarding the Prince and Princess thrones she was so kind as to construct last Fall. Thank you, Genevieve d'Aquitaine Kingdom Chamberlain From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 4 10:58:18 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:58:18 EDT Subject: [MR] medieval fishing (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2) Message-ID: <128.5a0498db.2f82da3a@aol.com> In a message dated 4/4/2005 12:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Greetings, Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is in memoriam to a recently passed but very great fisher of men--John Paul II, who passed away yesterday (Saturday April 2nd, 2005, which is also my 17th wedding anniversary). I cannot help but be saddened by the passing of someone who brought so much positive change to the world in such a gentle manner. And, as the world mourns, in it's inevitable way spring has come to my tiny northern town. The grass peeps through the snow, rain falls, the roads are muddied, and the signs of growth and activity are unmistakable. Not only is it the reason of renewal, is also very nearly the season of trout fishing, which brings us from the fisher of men to the fisher of fish..... While Fishing may not be your "thing", to be truly medieval I suppose you would have at least a passing knowledge of the process. If you existed in Medieval times fish were a staple in your diet, no matter who you were or where you lived. Certainly there were whole sets of days for which the Catholic religion prescribed that the only animal protein taken was fish. That meant that to be a fisherman during these times and in those places was to be a popular and busy sportsman. If you're not that sort of sportsman, however, do not despair! There is plenty here for other folk: Heralds will like the Fish in Heraldry page, Cooks and Mythologians will like the Gode Cookery pages, and Bards will delight in the Shakespeare the Angler page and the Robin Hood Ballad page. In the links below you can learn about how to make a medieval fishing hook, how to make a net, and how to fly-fish the medieval way. As always, please share this wherever a ready audience can be found. Much of this Links List would have been impossible without the incredible medieval fishing website of Liam O'Shea at farreaches.org . Your devoted servant, Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Riverouge Endless Hills Aethelmearc PS: If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account Stefan's Florilegium--Fishing Messages http://www.florilegium.org/files/ANIMALS/fishing-msg.html (Site Excerpt from ONE message) Marc/Diarmaid posted concerning metal fish hooks in the Middle Ages. I have a book at home I'll get and make available. It's a translation of a 15th century treatise on angling. You may be intersted, Diarmaid, in knowing that they were made from (I don't have the book with me,) a shoe-maker's needle (or something closely named) and worked with an anvil and forge. Fly Fishing in Medieval Times http://www.flyfishinghistory.com/fly_fishing_in_medieval_times.htm (Site Excerpt) The first reference is from a romance written in about 1210 by Wolfram von Eschenbach, whose hero Schionatulander wades barefoot in a stream to catch trout and grayling with a fly. Other texts identify fly fishing as the chosen method of commoners from 1360 onwards, across a vast area reaching from the Swiss plain to Styria. Fishing and Fishermen in Medieval Works of Art http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm Seven links to web images Regia Anglorum: Fishing in Early Medieval Times http://www.geocities.com/karen_larsdatter/fishing.htm (Site Excerpt) Although in 730 AD, according to Bede, Bishop Winfrid of Colchester apparently: '...found so much misery from hunger, he taught the people to get food by fishing. For, although there was plenty of fish in the seas and rivers, the people had no idea about fishing, and caught only eels. So the Bishop's men got together eel nets from all sides. and threw them into the sea. By God's help they caught three hundred fish, of all different kinds.' The Arte of Angling Olde to New http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/ Sixteen links to medieval fishing, for adults and children The Treatyse of Fishing with an Angle http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/treatise/treatyse_index.html (Site Excerpt) If you want to be crafty in angling, you must first learn to make your tackle, that is, your rod, your lines of different colours. After that, you must know how you should angle, in what place of the water, how deep, and what time of day. For what manner of fish, in what weather; how many impediments there are in the fishing that is called angling. And especially with what baits for each different fish in each month of the year. How you shall make your baits breed. Where you will find the baits: and how you will keep them. And for the most crafty thing, how you are to make your hooks of steel and of iron. Some for the artificial fly: and some for the float and the ground-line, as you will hear afterward all these things talked about openly so that you may learn. THE COMPLEAT ANGLER BY IZAAK WALTON http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/walton/izintro.html (Site Excerpt) On the Nature and Breeding of the Trout, and how to fish for him ...The Trout is a fish highly valued, both in this and foreign nations. He may be justly said, as the old poet said of wine, and we English say of venison, to be a generous fish: a fish that is so like the buck, that he also has his seasons; for it is observed, that he comes in and goes out of season with the stag and buck. Gesner says, his name is of a German offspring; and says he is a fish that feeds clean and purely, in the swiftest streams, and on the hardest gravel; and that he may justly contend with all fresh water fish, as the Mullet may with all sea fish, for precedency and daintiness of taste; and that being in right season, the most dainty palates have allowed precedency to him. A Historical Look at the Sport of Angling by Doug Dillon http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/angling.html (Site Excerpt) Ancient pictographs dating from about 2000 B.C. indicate that the first known anglers were the Egyptians. A drawing dating from c. 1400 B.C., which depicts an Egyptian noble angling in an elegant pond, suggests they were also the first culture which enjoyed it as a sport. The Greeks, who wrote avidly on fishing, discuss the sport of angling in greater detail, and provide some of the earliest amounts of the equipment used. The Romans, by contrast, did not seem to hold the sport in very high regard, since there is mention that it was an activity for women and not a fitting sport for men. Shakespeare the Angler by Dr. John Day http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/shakes/shakes.html (Site Excerpt) After his death, Shakespeare attracted dozens of biographers, but while he was alive he had none. And so, legions of scholars have had to analyse his plays and poems word by word to piece together Shakespeare the man, and to determine his likes and dislikes. As to whether Shakespeare enjoyed fishing, the scholars, as we shall see, are divided. All in all, they've sifted from Shakespeare's works about 200 allusions to fish and fishing. Some of these 200 refer to sea fish like mackerel and herring, but they all smell of the dining-table or the fishmonger. Living inland, Shakespeare probably only once or twice visited the sea. Fishy Heraldry Lord Liam OShea http://www.farreaches.org/fishing/fishy_heraldry.html (Site Excerpt) It appears that the earliest heraldry containing a fish is that of the Zodiac sign Pisces. This sign is said to be representation of fishing on the Nile, where the season generally starts in February. The symbol for Pisces can be found on the west entrance to Iffley Church in England. Iffley is considered one of the most beautiful still-extant examples of Anglo-Norman architecture. Medieval Sourcebook: Cartulary of Saint Trond: Robert, Bishop of Li?ge: Protection of Fishing Rights, 1246 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/1246Fishrts.html (Site Excerpt) We admonish each of you and command you to prohibit in general, publicly and solemnly, all people from fishing in the waters of Willebempt and in the other streams of our beloved and faithful son, the Abbot of Saint-Trond, situated in the town of Saint-Trond, without permission or without the command of the said abbot. SEE ALSO: Medieval Sourcebook: Louis the Pious: Grant of Fishing Rights, 832 http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/source/832louispious-fishing1.html (Site Excerpt) Wherefore be it known to all, both present and future, that, by these presents, we have granted for the love of God and for the salvation of our soul, to the monastery which is called New Corvey, which we built in Saxony in honor of Saint Stephen, the first martyr, and at the head of which is our faithful cousin Warin, its first abbot, a certain fishery in the River Weser. The Medieval Sportsmen Compendium of Knowledge http://www.farreaches.org/foresters/ 25 sources for the Medieval Fisherman, many in print. A Boke of Gode Cookery---Fish and Seafood Recipes http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm#fish (Site Excerpt) Pykes in brasey. Take pykes and vndo hem on ?e wombes and waisshe hem clene, and lay hem on a roost irne. ?enne take gode wyne and powdour gynger & sugur, good wone, & salt, and boile it in an erthen panne; & messe forth ?e pyke & lay the sewe onoward. SEE ALSO: Fantastic Fish of the Middle Ages http://www.godecookery.com/ffissh/ffissh.htm (Site Excerpt) Here are the fantastic and incredible fish of the Middle Ages, which populated both the waters and the imagination of the medieval world. Real creatures still familar to us, such as the salmon and the crayfish will be found here, but you will also read of such fabulous specimens as the Abremon, which propagated without intercourse, the Ezox, so large that a four-horsed cart could not carry one away, and the Nereydes, sea monsters that cried whenever one of them died. The Raversijde Domain Walraversijde (A reconstructed medieval fishing town near Flanders) http://users.pandora.be/alex.deseyne/ENG/WalraversijdeE.htm (Site Excerpt) Walking through the reconstructed medieval landscape brings the visitor to four fisherman's houses: the house of a rich ship owner, the home of a fisherman's widow, a tradesman's house and finally the fish smokehouse and bakery. When building these houses, much depended on archaeological evidence to know how they had to look like. Moreover, these houses have been rebuilt using the original medieval bricks of the village. All objects that can be seen in the houses are true replica from recent findings. Thanks to the audio equipment, visitors are guided through the houses by the voice of medieval inhabitants. Kingdom of Atlantia Arts and Sciences: Fish and Fishing http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/wsnlinks/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=118 17 links to information, some of which appear here. Fishing off Spain in Medieval Times http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/fish_spain.html (Site Excerpt) In the Mediterranean when one mentions hake, one must talk about the Spanish. Although Spain, and Castile in particular, was similar to Sicily in the secondary importance that fish had in the diet and the economy, hake was the most popular of fish. Hake is a gadoid fish (meaning it resembles cod), except it lacks the barbel of the cod and has a long second dorsal and anal fin running from mid-body to the tail fin. Spanish fishermen have caught hake since the fourteenth century, and the Spanish fondness for hake has resulted in a great variety of preparations. ROBIN HOOD'S FISHING: INTRODUCTION (A Renaissance Ballad) http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/fishint.htm (Site Excerpt) This ballad is found in seventeenth-century broadsides and garlands and was entered in the Stationers' Register in 1631. The earliest of the Wood texts, which Child relied on (dated by Wing at 1650?), is quite unclear in the final action and appears to have been cut down to fit onto a broadside sheet. The version found in the Forresters manuscript has a fuller and more lucid sequence of final action, and, as its sense of completeness appears most unlikely to have been generated editorially from the broadside version, its text is used here. From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 10:59:22 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Thanks Message-ID: <20050404175922.38961.qmail@web40424.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, Coronation was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it immensely in spite of Mother Nature's best efforts to give the term "wet site" an entirely new meaning. Special thanks to Master Alan Gravesend and Lord Kynnyth Pyke, who helped us dig out our car out of the muck, allowing us to head home. We also know that Master Alan and Lord Kynny were not the only people who braved the rain and the mud to help folk rescue their vehicles from a parking lot that ended up looking like the swamps of Jurassic Park. I don't know the names of everyone who helped dig cars out during and after the event, but you know who you are, and would like to thank you all for your hard work and your spirit of service. Yours in Service, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 12:12:44 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: <20050404191245.35998.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Sacred Stone Novice Tourney April 8th-10th, 2005 Barony of Sacred Stone My Lords and Ladies, once again The Barony of the Sacred Stone invites all Fighters of the Known World to participate in its Annual Novice Tournament. Combat: MIC: Sir Marc d'Aubigny, email: dgreen7 at bellsouth.net Novice Heavy Tournament (Novice: 2 years or less as an authorized fighter) Funny Weapon Tournament: Any Weapon Form, But No Shields! (Open Tournament) Three Man Team Double Elimination (Open Tournament) Rapier Format: Lord Galen Storm, email: stan_harmon at hotmail.com, Novice & Open Tournament Archery: Lord Conal Mac an Druiadh, email: BDrury301 at aol.com, IKAC Royal Round Calvary: Baroness Beatrice Von Staufen, email: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences: Best Field Heraldic Display, Best Display of Phoenix In any Medium, Best Beer and Ale Contest Best Novice Livery and Best Three Man Livery Competitions hosted by Asszony Rozsa Cost: Weekend $10ages 5-17 $7Day Trip $7ages 5-17 $4Ages 0-4 Guests of the BaronyThere is a $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site: 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011. Primitive Site with Bathhouse. Novice Tournament is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Space can be arranged to provide for mini-encampments should your group request it. Please pre-reserve if you would like space reserved. Site opens at 5pm Friday and closes at 1pm Sunday. If you have any special needs please contact the autocrat before the event in order to determine what accommodations can be made to assist you. Feast: We will not be providing a feast this year. Please feel free to bring your grills and your friends to show off your own culinary skills. Restaurants are near the hotels. Merchants: Please contact the autocrat Autocrat: Baron Achbar ibn Ali, (704) 377-8516, email: achbar at bellsouth.net Reservations: Susanna von Schweissguth, OL, Susan Evans, 4493 Leepers St, Iron Station, NC 28080, email: needleznpinz at charter.net Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St, Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 --------------------------------- Directions: --------------------------------- >From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. >From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * >From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from * --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals From geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 13:06:48 2005 From: geoffrey_makepeace at yahoo.com (Geoffrey Makepeace) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] OT- Modern Middle Ages web-site Message-ID: <20050404200648.40023.qmail@web53410.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I would once again like to invite everyone to vist Modern Middle ages..a place to talk about anything SCA related, a place to make friends, answer a question, or seek out help. We hope this turns into a great resource for everyone...but we need you! so please come join us at http://www.modernmiddleages.com/ Thank you __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From vnend at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 13:23:12 2005 From: vnend at adelphia.net (David W. James) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Porcines are airborne In-Reply-To: <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> References: <20050403160004.CCBB91C3227@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> <450fea6bae3bb54d7c0fce953eb3cecf@cox.net> Message-ID: On Apr 03, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Morvyth verch Morgan wrote: > Yesterday I got the April Acorn in the mail. (I'm on third class > mailing till May when my renewal kicks in with first class postage). > I have never seen the Acorn this early. And it is particularly > amusing since I got the March Acorn late last week..... > ~Morvyth Ditto, on both counts. I was shocked. Kwellend-Njal From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 13:47:34 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:47:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cloak lost at Coronation Message-ID: From sdsorrentino at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:59:57 2005 From: sdsorrentino at yahoo.com (Sean D. Sorrentino) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] lost CD at Coronation Message-ID: <20050404215957.18903.qmail@web42201.mail.yahoo.com> could whoever on the kitchen staff owns the little portable stereo contact me? the power cord and the Spin Doctors CD in the stereo belong to me. thanks Sean Sean Sorrentino Email: sean at seansorrentino.com check out my photos @ http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 16:56:16 2005 From: mariatheresapontoon at yahoo.com (Mary Bowles) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coranation/Inpromptu Scriptorium...:) Message-ID: <20050404235616.69809.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, I would like to express my heart felt thanks and gratitude to the official and unofficial Scribes of Atlantia that sat at Coranation helping me illuminate scrolls for a contest that had nothing to do with them. Over the coarse of five four hours each of these generous people gave of there time so that scrolls I had calligraphied could make it into the scribal contest being held by Lady Danielle Swartzcoff (sp) A little over fifteen scribes, or scribes to be, sat in a corner at Coranation helping me, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand finish up nearly thirty scrolls. I thank you from the bottom of my heart and hope we can all keep in touch. YIS, Lady Maria-Therese de Normand Seneschal, Ponte Alto Fighter Chic and Scribe in training. :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From johnshep at adelphia.net Mon Apr 4 17:03:35 2005 From: johnshep at adelphia.net (John) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:03:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Unto all Royal Peers Message-ID: Unto all Royal Peers who shall bear arms and be in attendance upon TRMs AEthelmearc at Thier Coronation, does William Thomas, esquire of Syr Bryce de Byram and Tiarna Uilleag o'Conmhaic, esquire of Shair Fiachna and companion of Hotel de Byram send most heartfelt greetings and do present this Challenge: Good Gentles all, as suggested by his Grace, Sir Cuan and commanded by His Royal Majesty, Sir Robert, by strength of Arms, King of the Sovereign lands of Atlantia, does William Thomas and Uilleag pray to offer what hospitality we may. Upon the fields of Blackstone Raids, we shall place a pavillion and under this pavillion such seats and refreshments as we have at our disposal to offer what hospitality we can to any Royals who shall bear arms and Their Consorts. This shall include Sovereigns, Royal Heirs, Territorial Coronets, Duchies, Countys and Viscountys and Thier consorts all. This Pavillion shall be marked with our banners bearing our seperate arms. William Thomas will bear Argent, a wolf rampant purpure, on a chief purpure, three cleves sleury crosses argent, and I, Uilleag o'Conmhaic shall bear Per pale, or and sable, a chevron between four wolves rampant, counter changed. Upon this field, William Thomas and I shall accept challenges from the Royal Peers present to 5 passes. William Thomas shall hold the field and then myself, alternating to meet each challenger so that we each meet half of the challenges present. From angiechuck at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:14:19 2005 From: angiechuck at hotmail.com (Chuck & Angie Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:14:19 +0000 Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280@comcast.net> Message-ID: From dona_violante at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:12 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] looking for a fight? Message-ID: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a reminder - we still need worthy fighters for Passage to Damascus, April 16, from 11 to 2. Here is your chance to strut your stuff before an adoring public! More info follows... http://roxburymill.atlantia.sca.org/Events/events.html Passage to Damascus April 16, 2005 11:00 a.m. ? 2:00 p.m. In the Middle Ages, Damascus was a center for cultural interchange and learning as pilgrims traveled from all over to one of the oldest cities in the world. Come join the Shire of Roxbury Mill for our second annual Library Demo: Passage to Damascus (Maryland). Help promote a love of history and reading among children of all ages. We are looking for live demonstrations of performing arts and daily activities (such as spinning or weaving), as well as static displays of the accoutrements which would have been familiar to people of the Middle Ages. (Please keep in mind the very young ages of our audience when deciding what items to bring.) In addition, there will be an A&S competition with a prize of $25 store credit at The Spanish Peacock! ( http://www.spanishpeacock.com ) Since Damascus had such a long and international history, any medium, time period, or nationality is welcome. Documentation is not required, but highly encouraged. Extra points will be awarded for documentation which is geared towards the age group of the audience. And of course, we need fighters! The siege of Damascus was a highlight of the Second Crusade, and here is a chance for all fighters to come strut their stuff for an adoring audience. Pageantry and pomp is highly encouraged! For more information or to volunteer, please contact Violante at dona_violante at comcast.net For directions to Damascus Public Library, click here. http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Libraries/branchinfo/dm.asp Thanks to all, Violante __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:38:00 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO a Black Wool Circle Cloak Message-ID: It disappeared at Coronation and I would like for it to come home. It is a full circle black wool cloak with a paint stain near the base in Bright Blue. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Barony of Bright Hills Chronicler Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! My gallery My random musings and incoherent thoughts From egeorges at cox.net Tue Apr 5 04:53:25 2005 From: egeorges at cox.net (egeorges) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown Competition Results In-Reply-To: <20050404202212.95D181C324B@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050405115322.UZEY29670.lakermmtao11.cox.net@LizNotebook> Greetings O Populace of Atlantia! It is with great pride that the New Regalia Committee announces the winner of the Crown Design Competition..... Raimon Riquiers de Limoges The Committee does apologize for not announcing this decision in Court at Coronation. However, the entrants produced such wonderful designs that making the choice proved much, much more difficult than expected. Each of the entrants should be very proud of their efforts, and we thank them for their patience. We do plan to recognize ALL of the entrants at Crown Tourney. Now begins the arduous process of creating this new regalia. There will be further announcements on that point as we know more. In the meantime, if there are any questions, please contact me off list. In Service, Luce Antony Venus Chair, New Regalia Committee From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Tue Apr 5 06:31:30 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:31:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] minor correction to Court Report from Coronation In-Reply-To: <20050404144051.BA95E1C3240@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: My most humble apologies for interuptting the Tavern, but if I may, I'd like to make a minor correction to the Court Report from Coronation. (exerpted from original post): <> It was the Shire of Seareach, not the Barony of Sacred Stone, that crafted this magnificent piece of work. Thanks! Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:02:44 -0400 >From: William Fleming >Subject: [MR] Court Report from Coronation >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Message-ID: <9e91c066c985911b28846e1b4693f280 at comcast.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed > >Here begins the report of the Last Court of Janos and Rachel, King and >Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >Numerous worthies were recognized and rewarded by Their Majesties with >the following awards. > >Lady Belphoebe de Givet Order of the Sea Dragon > >Duchess Marie Simone Barjaval la Fildena Queen?s Order of Courtesy > >Lady Catalina dell? Acqua Undine > >Lord Christopher Mac Cunning Undine > >Senor Juan-baptista Haram Ramirez Colixtus Ponce VI de Estoponopoly > Coral Branch > >Master Danr Bjornsson Court Baron > >Mistress Isabel Ulsdottir Court Baroness > >Ro von Rhienfranken Award of Arms > >Count Valharic Caligula Arelius Kings Award of Excellence > >Duke Cuan McDaige Nonpariel > >Having concluded this business Their Majesties prepared to end Their >Court when word came from the north that The Crown of the East needed >Their aid against a foe. Taking a gracious leave of the assembled host >King Janos and Queen Rachel went to the aid of Atlantia?s northern >neighbors. Alas shortly thereafter word came of King Janos?s violent >demise. > >The King is dead, long live the King! > > > > >Here begins the report of the First Court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The heavens having opened to drop tears for the loss of King Janos, the >rightful heirs to the Kingdom, Robert and Denise, assumed the Thrones >and assured the populace of Their desire to preserve the ancient laws >and customs of our noble land and to lend aid and protection to all of >Their subjects. This having been accomplished with due ceremony Their >Majesties named Their champions. > >Count Valhalric Caligula Arelius King?s Champion > >Sir Thomas of Calais Queen?s Champion > >Master Alan Gravesend Captain of the Queen?s Spears > >Their Majesties then called forward the Honorable Lady Collwen ferch >Dafydd ab Ifan and placed her on vigil to contemplate the burden of >being elevated to the Order of the Pelican. > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Here begins the report of the second court of Robert and Denise, King >and Queen of Atlantia. Upon the second day of April A.S. XXXIX (2005) >court was held in the Barony of Lochmere. > >The business of the court follows. > >Their Royal Highnesses of the Midrealm, Prince Alaric and Princess >Noelle, were welcomed into court. > >Their Royal Highnesses of ?thelmearc, Prince Malcolm and Princess >Tessa, were welcomed into court. > >Their Majesties and Their Highnesses exchanged gifts and sealed an >alliance for this coming Pennsic War. (Whether this alliance is a >result of the great friendship between their Majesties and the heirs to >the Crowns of the Midrealm and ?thelmearc or, as some suppose, a rumor >that the summons from the King of the East which led King Janos to his >death was not a call for aid but a devious assassination aimed at >returning Atlantia to the control of the Eastrealm. Why else would >the people of the East invade our lands every October? But perhaps I >have said too much...) > >Sir Janos of Cyddlian Downs Count > >Mistress Rachel Wallace Countess > Order of the Rose > >Those new to our company were then welcomed and give tokens by Her >Majesty. > >The children of our Kingdom were then recognized and given toys as >tokens by Their Majesties. > >Vito della Luca la Mano Negra Hippocampus > >The Embroiderers Guild of Greater Storvik presented gifts to Their >Majesties. >Lord Egil Gulbjorn presented a painted chest as a gift to His Majesty >which had been crafted by the good people of the Barony of Sacred Stone >recounting the history of His Majesty?s glorious deeds. (Within, it is >rumored to contain a testament to King Robert?s generosity but the King >is a modest man and so is reluctant to allow other to read it.) > >Alejandro de la Vina Award of Arms > >Nanne of Hunterstoune Award of Arms > >Alwyn Kanwyrde Award of Arms > >The Autocrat was then called into court to announce the winners of the >day?s competitions. >( I have forgot the names of the gentles who emerged victorious but >will post them as I find them.) > >Helmut Kruger Order of the Kraken > >Ivar Award of Arms > >The Royal Cheesecake Baker then presented gifts to Their Majesties. > >Master Robert Beddingfield Order of the Pearl > >Collwen ferch Dafydd ab Ifan Order of the Pelican > >This being done Their Majesties closed Their court. > >Long live King Robert and Queen Denise! > > > > >Your servant, > >Olagh Ruaidhri an Cu >(Leig an cu comhartaich!) > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From melaniesuzanne at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 07:23:22 2005 From: melaniesuzanne at gmail.com (Melanie Cozad) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra Message-ID: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. Cheers, Melissent -- Melanie Cozad Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] melaniesuzanne at gmail.com From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 08:29:31 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405021712.48892.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 08:52:54 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405152958.571D24059B@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web space. Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ldmolly at gmpexpress.net Tue Apr 5 09:21:03 2005 From: ldmolly at gmpexpress.net (ldmolly at gmpexpress.net) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I would like to applaud all of the cambok players for demonstrating how all of those dull, drab medieval colors were REALLY created, smile. Molly From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 10:37:30 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? From generys at blazemail.com Tue Apr 5 10:45:17 2005 From: generys at blazemail.com (Jennifer / Guenievre) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:37:45 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:37:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <8C7081D46C97404-930-789F@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't involved in this particular mudbath. The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was missing his hockey. He researched similar games in period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) Jongleurie in something like 1996. Cheers, Ursula von Bremen -----Original Message----- From: jbrmm266 at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being played! For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, or are they entirely vernacular? Your servant aye, Donal -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: 'Merry Rose' Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures Greetings! Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is interested, they can be found at http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . Enjoy! YIS, Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From thatursula at aol.com Tue Apr 5 11:39:26 2005 From: thatursula at aol.com (thatursula at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:39:26 -0400 Subject: The rules ==> Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <20050405174544.75EA040600@omta18.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <8C70825EDAE80C1-CA8-4333@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Yes! These are the rules/details (link below) as originally published by the game's inventor, Sir Daffydd. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer / Guenievre To: jbrmm266 at aol.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:45:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures M'lord, I had no idea whether there were rules or not either. But I did find this - http://www.greydragon.org/library/cambok.html which explains some origins of the game. Of course, the game at Coronation had no sticks, so I suppose it wasn't "actually" Cambok... oh well. YIS, Gueni?vre > -----Original Message----- > From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia- > bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of jbrmm266 at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:38 PM > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic rules) anywhere published, > or are they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage > to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia ======================================================================= The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From belfebe at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 11:42:37 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050405184237.23835.qmail@web40428.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I am not sure about the origins of Cambok, but about two months ago I happened to catch a game of cambok on tv. They were in Australia, and it was being played by about 200 people on a stadium. And I know that it was cambok because there was a comentator who said that's what it was. I had a great time watching it. It had nothing to do with SCA. The uniforms were thoroughly modern, and there were two teams of about 100 people each. Blue shirts and yellow shirts, and shorts. I guess it was the only way to figure out who were the members of the other team. I do not think that this was invented by a SCAdian, but I can see where a Canadian expatriot would have found it a suitable replacement for his hockey. Cheers, Belphoebe --- thatursula at aol.com wrote: > I hate to say it, but it's not really Cambok without > the sticks, but as Guinievre pointed out, it was > probably a good thing that cambok sticks weren't > involved in this particular mudbath. > > The game was invented by Sir Daffyd ap Gwystl in the > early 90's. He's a Canadian expatriot who was > missing his hockey. He researched similar games in > period and made a bunch of cambok sticks (we still > have ours). The lst cambok game (with sticks) that > I personally witnessed was in Elvegast at the (1st?) > Jongleurie in something like 1996. > > Cheers, > Ursula von Bremen > > -----Original Message----- > From: jbrmm266 at aol.com > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:37:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > You know, this is the first evidence I've seen of > the game actually being > played! > > For a long time I thought it was a sort of "SCAdian > urban legend." > > Are the rules (I assume there are *some* basic > rules) anywhere published, or are > they entirely vernacular? > > Your servant aye, > Donal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or > the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud > - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra > . > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:02:28 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:02:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Scrum (was:Coronation Cambok pictures] In-Reply-To: <8C70825B152E43A-CA8-42F3@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It looks remarkably like the game "scrum" which is traditionally played at Pennsic and seems to involve a great deal of dirt, mud, and laughter... oh, and a ball. I've been told that the difference between the two is "one's without sticks or any rules and the other is... with a stick". Hrothny From trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org Tue Apr 5 11:26:41 2005 From: trcobb at hansensmtn.no-ip.org (Toby Cobb) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... Message-ID: Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Zooming in one more notch is possible, but apparently the "super snoop" lens wasn't available during the pass the satellite made. Not sure when this imagery was taken, other than a good guest that it was during August sometime in the past 10 years. :) Enjoy! Toby of Isenfir, Shire Pennsic Slumlord From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Tue Apr 5 12:13:43 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Google has us on satellite Message-ID: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 ,0.061884&t=k&hl=en Obviously in late August, it's an interesting pic of Cooper's Lake. You might want to zoom in a little closer (controls are to the left on the pic itself). Hrothny From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:41:50 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra References: <863bafb005040507236d5c83ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c53a17$836db0f0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> forwarded privately http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Cozad" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MR] ISO Baroness Rowan Berra > Please pardon me if I've misspelled your name, Baronness Rowan, but > could you please contact me offlist. Thank you. > > Cheers, > Melissent > > -- > Melanie Cozad > Lady Melissent d'Artois [Barony of Ponte Alto, Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA] > Milicent Chapman [Lord Grey's Retinue, 15th C. Living History] > melaniesuzanne at gmail.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From ladyro at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 12:55:45 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures References: <8C7080EA9F2ACA3-F18-2554@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Sticks?? We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... (Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the cambok sticks?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > To: 'Merry Rose' > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > Greetings! > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage to > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > interested, they can be found at > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones available if > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people to > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take down > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > space. > > Enjoy! > > YIS, > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > ======================================================================= > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Tue Apr 5 13:22:19 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna From 3fgburner at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 13:26:01 2005 From: 3fgburner at gmail.com (Dexter Guptill) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:26:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT / PSA / Northern Region: Disaster victims wanted Message-ID: <4bbd7de105040513261f1c2c5d@mail.gmail.com> Greetings! I'm taking bandwidth liberties for a shameless plug. What: Since late February, I've been enrolled in classes for the Fairfax County, VA, CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) program. Our final exercise is Sunday, May 1. Since we have two CERT classes and a Boy Scout Troop playing, we need LOTS of victims. I think that the exercise will be an earthquake. When: Sunday, May 1st. Show up by 9:30AM, for application of fake injuries. Exercise last up through about 2:30PM. Where: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Academy, on West Ox Road south of I-66. Who: Anyone interested in running a bunch of CERT candidates ragged, by keeping them busy "rescuing" you. Minimum age is 15, under 18 needs a parent involved. Particulars: The exercise will be held rain or shine. It counts as community-service hours for anyone who needs 'em for school, etc. Wear clothes that you've been thinking about throwing away. Think mud, grunge, and EMT shears. Unless the program comes up with a feeding plan, I will come up with lunch and drinkies for "my" victims. Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled SCA-whackiness. Erich von Kleinfeld, mka -- Dex --Dexter Guptill http://dguptill.home.mindspring.com "Rule 37: There is no overkill. There is only 'Open Fire', and 'I need to reload'. " -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com From jbrmm266 at aol.com Tue Apr 5 14:04:48 2005 From: jbrmm266 at aol.com (jbrmm266 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] TINYURL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Wonderful! The first time I tried the link as it is, I got a generic map of the region because the link cut off after 044374. Your servant aye, Donal Mac Ruiseart -----Original Message----- From: WELENC,LUCINDA To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Cc: Isenfir Mail list Sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [MR] Medieval Reinactors from Outer Space... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:26:41 -0400 "Toby Cobb" wrote: >Or perhaps I should say "as seen from outer space." > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Butler,PA&ll=40.974640,-80.136419&spn=0.044374 >,0.061884&t=k&hl=en When one has a long url like this one, a visit to http://tinyurl.com is productive. Tinyurl cut the address down to a workable http://tinyurl.com/4l3b8. Alanna ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From Shalandara at aol.com Tue Apr 5 19:12:51 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:12:51 EDT Subject: [MR] Server Auction at Defending the Gate Message-ID: There is a labor shortage in the Canton! While usually plentiful, this year there are rumors that there will not be enough servers from the College* to serve all the tables at feast. Unless your table wishes to carry their own platters be prepared to outbid all others for a servant! *The Ren Club of Mary Washington University joins us every year at this event. Members of the Club are auctioned off as feast servers in order to raise funds for their club. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From SNSpies at aol.com Tue Apr 5 20:34:49 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:34:49 EDT Subject: [MR] The Unicorn Tapestries (Fwd: [SCA_NaturalDyes] Digest Number 979) Message-ID: <111.4773ea95.2f84b2d9@aol.com> Great story. Had to share. The people who got to be in on this project must have really been living right. Cassandra > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050411fa_fact > > > > One heck of a story on several levels. Here's a hook-like excerpt: > > > > The Unicorn tapestries are considered by many to be the most > > beautiful tapestries in existence. They are also among the great work > > of art of any kind... > > > > ...In the wet lab, a team of textile conservators led by a woman > > named Kathrin Colburn unpacked the tapestries and spread them out > > face down on a large table, one by one. At some point, the backs of > > the tapestries had been covered with linen. The backings, which > > protect the tapestries and help to support them when they hang on a > > wall, were turning brown and brittle, and had to be replaced. Using > > tweezers and magnifying lenses, Colburn and her team delicately > > removed the threads that held each backing in place. As the > > conservators lifted the backing away, inch by inch, they felt a > > growing sense of awe. The backs were almost perfect mirror images of > > the fronts, but the colors were different... From rscherer at infionline.net Wed Apr 6 06:05:44 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0@pop.infionline.net> Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Wed Apr 6 08:55:53 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:55:53 -0500 Subject: [MR] Re: new book from Dover on Medieval Jews In-Reply-To: <8C7083A3C8FC8A4-930-9547@mblk-r04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486437582.html Jewish Life in the Middle Ages Israel Abrahams Our Price $18.95 Availability: In Stock ISBN: 0486437582 Page Count: 480 Dimensions: 5 3/8 x 8 1/2 Highly readable social history comprehensively examines life of European Jews, from approximately the late tenth-century to the early 1500s. Topics include social functions of the synagogue; communal organizations; love, courtship and marriage; monogamy and home life; trades and occupations; medieval pastimes and personal relations between Christians and Jews. A sweeping view of the Jewish historical experience. Alanna From badkitty12667 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 09:39:15 2005 From: badkitty12667 at yahoo.com (Kitty Cat) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: Watch the kitty fly In-Reply-To: <20050406160011.A4D021C3294@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <20050406163915.80089.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> That it just wrong on so many levels! --Rhiannon of Crannog Mor Message: 8 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:05:44 -0400 From: "Roy B. Scherer" Subject: [MR] OT: Fwd: Watch the kitty fly... To: , "The Merry Rose" , Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050406090152.031d10e0 at pop.infionline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, it's off-topic (except for artillery/catapult afficianados). Not recommended for PETA people. -- Roy >Some entertainment for all the cat lovers out there... > >http://www.flashplayer.com/games/kittencannon_movie.php NOTES: Could not get game to play with Opera or Netscape -- OK for initialization and instructions, but "Start" results in a brief glimpse of cannon, which moves offscreen left and is then inaccessible. With IE, managed to achieve 1,146 feet at 45 degrees and fullpower! Score registration doesn't show properly, but wothehell, wothehell . . end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Everything above the evolutionary level of an amoeba enjoys having its neck rubbed." -- Lazarus Long, the Senior (Quoted by Robert A. Heinlein) ============================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 10:37:45 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices Message-ID: <20050406173745.97302.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: "elsworthy" > To: "Susan Troutman" > Cc: "Quhinten" > Subject: Night on the Town prices > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? Thanks. > > ****************************************************** > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn announcement > about the pricing for the Night on the Town event in > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast $16. > While my head cook is very good, we're not planning > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay the > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will receive a > refund. > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for the > error. Any questions, please contact me at > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > Robert Bedingfield __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Wed Apr 6 11:43:03 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:43:03 +0000 Subject: [MR] Stefan's Florilegium files for April In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings to the Gentles of the Known World, Here is a copy of my Florilegium article for April, detailing what is new in the Florilegium for this month. If you are the chronicler of a local newsletter and would like to get a copy of this article several weeks in advance so that you can have time to meet your publishing deadlines, please email me and send me your regular and SCA name, your group and its location, your publication name and the email which you would like me to send the article to. If you run an SCA-oriented website, I also have a version of this article formatted for web use. This message should be going all kingdom mail lists, either directly or through a representative who forwards it for me. If you don't see it on a kingdom mail list, and yet see it on another kingdom's list, please contact me. Stefan ----- A Blending of the Past and Present Over the past fifteen years in an ongoing effort, I have been collecting bits of useful information from various newsgroups, mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. In order to make this information available to others, I have placed this information in a series of files I call Stefan's Florilegium. The Florilegium is on the web at: http://www.florilegium.org I am always interested in new articles. If you have written an article that would be of interest to others in the SCA, please send it to me for possible inclusion in the Florilegium. Contact me for more details. I am also interested in volunteers who might be interested in helping me maintain the Florilegium. Everything from collecting materials, editing and web work is needed. Again, please contact me for more details. For those who would like to help support the Florilegium project in another way, I have added a PayPal donation button on the top page of the site. Any donations, while not tax deductible, do help pay the overhead costs of keeping the site running. THLord Stefan li Rous Ansteorra stefan at florilegium.org Here are the new files for this month: In the ANIMALS section: hounds-lnks Links to information on medieval hound dogs by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the CLOTHING section: smptuary-laws-lnks Links to info on medieval sumptuary laws by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. In the FEASTS section: Medievl-Feasts-art "The Medieval Feast - An Event, Not Food" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the FOOD section: About-Cheese-art "About Cheese" A tranlation by Aelianora de Wintringham of a 1556 letter on Swiss cheese and dairy products. In the PERFORMANCE ARTS section: Entrtng-n-SCA-art "Entertaining in the SCA: a short essay" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. In the PERSONAS section: Barbrn-Persona-art "Barbarian Personae" by Baron Hrolf Herjolfssen. Persona-CMA-art "Persona in the Current Middle Ages; Guidelines to persona play" by Mistress Willow de Wisp. In the PLANTS, HERBS AND SPICES section: hemp-nettle-art "Two Food/Fiber/Medical plants in use in Eastern Europe" by Jadwiga Zajaczkowa. In the SCRIBAL ARTS section: p-graffiti-lnks Links to medieval graffiti and marginalia by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon. Here are just a some of the updated files, usually those with the largest amounts of new material: artichokes-msg Period artichokes. Recipes. Cardoons. chairs-msg Medieval and SCA chairs. compost-msg A pickled food of fruits and vegetables. cook-ovr-fire-msg Cooking over open fires. Outdoor feasts. dayboards-msg SCA dayboards, middle-of-the-day meals. fd-decoratng-msg Decorating and presenting period foods. lamps-msg Medieval lamps and lamps for SCA use. p-petroleum-msg Period use of petroleum. Crude oil. p-songs-msg Period songs and song lyrics. peppers-msg The introduction of peppers to Europe. root-veg-msg Medieval and period root vegetables. --- Copyright 2005, Mark S. Harris. Permission to reprint in SCA-related publications is hereby granted if the contents are left unchanged and the author is notified of the publication. Notification may be by email and reformatting is allowed. -------- THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous at austin.rr.com **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org **** From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Wed Apr 6 14:46:48 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406214648.45780.qmail@web41413.mail.yahoo.com> The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney this weekend. Byram Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London $60.00 Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 New Armour: 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 Gently Used: 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each Mild 4 lame knees: $50 Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel Armoury?): $80 Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: $35 Other: Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses and greaves: $150 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: $85 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From achbar at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 6 14:55:19 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (achbar at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0400 Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice Message-ID: <20050406215519.ZTIF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> > > From: Duane Moore > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed PM 05:46:48 EDT > To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice > > The items that I was going to offer at Coronation (but > didn't because of the rain) will be at Novice Tourney > this weekend. > Byram > > Book: Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450 Mus. Of London > $60.00 > Sword: Viking Nickel Plated: $75 > > New Armour: > 2 lame Windrose Knees Brand New: $100 > Talon Armoury Shield 2x3 Heater: $55 > Louis Moore Norman Dress Helm, Stainless: $100 > Blackened Butted Chainmail Camail: $60 > > Gently Used: > 2 Mild Gorgets: $25 each > 2 Mild Half-Gauntlets: $25 each > Mild 4 lame knees: $50 > Mild Riveted Bascinet, SCA Legal (Maybe old Cold Steel > Armoury?): $80 > Red Falcon Stainless Cup Hilt: $30 > Stainless Heavily used large set of Red Falcon Knees: > $35 > > Other: > Full Legs, Red Falcon Knees, hardened leather cuisses > and greaves: $150 > 5 lame Red Falcon Cops and hardened leather vambraces: > $85 > 42" x 21" Aluminum Scutum: $45 > > Plus fabric, roving, etc. etc. etc. > > > Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil > NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ If you have anything to sell....please bring it to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love to see u there. Achbar Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament From alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 6 16:40:20 2005 From: alxndrgervais at nc.rr.com (Alexander Gervais) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:40:20 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A Baronial Investiture Message-ID: <200504062340.j36NeKLv005953@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Good Gentles, please pardon the bandwidth, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help with directions, since it's my original home group. In Service, HL Alexander Gervais le Poitevin Trimarian transplant to Elvegast -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Costello [mailto:dafatguy at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:25 PM To: Oldenfeld at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Oldenfeld] A Baronial Investiture On the weekend on the 29th of April, the oldest Shire in Trimaris will cease to be. After 31 years (give or take) the sun will set on the longest standing shire in Trimaris. On May Day weekend Oldenfeld will become the 1st group to be invested as a Barony in the Kingdom of Trimaris. The Barony of Wyvernwoode was invested in 1977 in the kingdom of Atenveldt . The Barony of An Crosaire was invested in 1979 in the kingdom of Meridies. The Barony of Darkwater was invested in 1985 in the kingdom of Meridies in the Principality of Trimaris. Oldenfeld will be the 1st Barony to have never bent a knee to a King who wasn???t Trimarian. To that end, Oldenfeld will be holding it???s 1st ever, Baronial Champion Tourneys. We will have a heavy tourney, a rapier tourney, an archery competition, a Bardic competition, an Arts and Sciences competition, Equestrian competitions and children???s games. Oldenfeld invites EVERYONE in the Known World to come compete in any or all of our games. Come ring in the SCA New Year. Come celebrate with us the dawn of a new day for the People of Oldenfeld! For more information: http://www.foxcroft-cottage.com/OldenfeldInvestiture.html Cabin space WILL and may have already, sell out but there is plenty of room to tent and there are hotels not too far away. Feast is still open but it too, will sell out. So get your reservations in soon to be sure that you will have a place! This will be the largest event North Fl has ever seen. Merchants, don???t miss this chance to sell your wears on this weekend! Ceddie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If all should abandon the king except me do you know what I would do? I would carry him on my shoulders, now here now there, from isle to isle, from land to land and would never fail him even if I were forced to beg my bread." William Marshal ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From brothertorquil at earthlink.net Wed Apr 6 17:38:23 2005 From: brothertorquil at earthlink.net (Dusty Mullins) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:38:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] Cambock Message-ID: <41200544703823530@earthlink.net> From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:21 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:21 EDT Subject: [MR] Tentative Schedule for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <6d.42b923b0.2f860221@aol.com> Here is a tentative schedule of events for the event this saturday. Times are subject to change, either from the weather or other forces. 10:00 am: Troll opens Children?s Activities opens 10:30 am: Armor inspections & authorizations begin Thrown Weapon range open for practice Archery Range open for practice/Royal Rounds 11:00 am: Silent Auction begins A&S Competition begins 11:30 am: Thrown Weapons competition begins Heavy and Rapier competitions begin 12:00 pm: Lunch begins 1:30 pm Archery Competition begins 2:00 pm: Lunch ends 3:30 pm Class on Japanese Sword Making (at List Field) 4:00 pm: Pick up A&S entries Silent Auction ends Children?s Activities Ends Troll Closes 4:30 pm: Court 5:45 pm: Server Auction 6:00 pm: Feast 8:00 pm: Dancing 9:30 pm: Site Closes In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From Shalandara at aol.com Wed Apr 6 20:25:25 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:25:25 EDT Subject: [MR] Feast at Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <27.6fa86493.2f860225@aol.com> There are still a few spots left for feast at Defending the Gate this saturday. They are available on a first come, first served basis since the only reservation is a paid reservation. Hope to see you all on saturday! _http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php_ (http://sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org/dtg4.php) In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From achbar at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 04:46:54 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:46:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from From m.villamaino at cox.net Thu Apr 7 06:39:39 2005 From: m.villamaino at cox.net (Matt Villamaino) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] St Pyr's Message-ID: Converts of St Pyr ? Badger, Fox and Bear April 16, 2005, 9 AM to 8 PM Site fees (including afternoon meal): By April 8 At the door Adults: $10 $12 Child (7 to 17): $7 $7 Age 6 and under are guests of the Canton. Please let us know in advance of your attendance, including littles, since only the pre-registered plus 20 persons at the door will have meals prepared for them. Site: Goodview Elementary School 1374 Rivermont Academy Rd Goodview, VA 24095 Directions: From I-81 take exit 143 for I 581/220 S. Take Exit 6 (Elm Ave./route 24) and turn left at the light. Continue on route 24 through Vinton and follow it to the right at the T intersection (about 5 miles). Go about 7 miles from the T to a traffic light, be in the right lane and turn. This is Goodview Rd. Go .5 miles and turn left onto the driveway for the school. Registrations sent to: Nastasiia Rosenzweig (mka Rennell Brillhart), 10570 Stewartsville Rd, Vinton, VA 24179, (540) 890-5963, rbthebrat at bigfoot.com A&S competition: best adaptation of a/the converts in any medium with Celtic influences. Documentation highly recommended. Contact Magpie MKA Karen Adams 11959 Callaway Rd Callaway, VA 24067 (540) 483-2753 for more information. Classes: We will have many classes offered throughout the day. Please be aware that the Atlantian Exchequer class required by all Exchequer?s in Atlantia will be offered from noon to 2 pm during the day. Full class schedule is at the Black Diamond website www.black-diamond.atlantia.sca.org From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 07:44:06 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Armour for sale at SS Novice In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407144406.67330.qmail@web41407.mail.yahoo.com> In Addition, Ullieag from House of the Wolf Armoury will be selling his fine quality leather armour at the event, as well, I believe, as taking commissions. Check out his website at: www.houseofthewolf.com BdeB --- achbar at bellsouth.net wrote: > >> If you have anything to sell....please bring it > to Sacred Stone Novice Tournament. We would love > to see u there. > > > Achbar > Autocrat Sacred Stone Novice Tournament Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 09:58:57 2005 From: geoffreyapclywd at yahoo.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Ponte Alto Rapier practice back in gym Message-ID: <20050407165857.33924.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings The Thursday night Rapier practice is moving from the cafeteria back to the gym starting tonight. for directions go to: http://pontealto.atlantia.sca.org/weekly.php The Gym entrance is right across from the Cafeteria entrance. Lord Geoffrey Ap Clywd Rapier Marshal Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia Scholar Academie d'Espee Order of the Sea Dragon Siege Engineer http://siege.atlantia.sca.org House Fallen From Grace http://www.houseffg.org From Heather at Kriebel.cc Thu Apr 7 10:34:43 2005 From: Heather at Kriebel.cc (Heather Kriebel) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:34:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Garnet Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <1112895283.42556f3309c5b@www.kriebel.cc> Good Gentles, On arriving home from Coronation, I discovered that a garnet is missing from my coronet. It's rectangular, approximately 1cm X 0.75 cm. If anyone found this, I would greatly appreciate it's return. During the day I was mainly in the hall and periodically on the pavement between the lunch pavillion, the parking area, and the queen's tea cabin. The probability of it hiding in the mud is pretty low. ... ;)... not that Cambok didn't look fun.. :) Baroness Amalia Dun Carraig From lwelenc at cablespeed.com Thu Apr 7 12:44:29 2005 From: lwelenc at cablespeed.com (WELENC,LUCINDA) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:44:29 -0500 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University Message-ID: Unto the Tavern, greetings! A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to contact me again? Alanna From gryphon at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 7 13:47:25 2005 From: gryphon at carolina.rr.com (Maeve Griffinsward) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:47:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University References: Message-ID: <001f01c53bb3$01750c40$6701a8c0@LAPTOP> Responded to privately. Maeve "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."-- James D. Nicoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "WELENC,LUCINDA" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [MR] Iso the lady who is teaching the feast class at University > Unto the Tavern, greetings! > > A few days ago someone posted about a feast class at > University. She very kindly put me in touch with the lady > who is teaching it, but before I could get back to her, I > had a computer crash and lost ALL the messages I had > before yesterday. Would you be so kind as to ask her to > contact me again? > > Alanna From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 13:55:27 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Crown Tournament in the Barony of Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050407205527.75277.qmail@web41215.mail.yahoo.com> Spring is in the air and it is near time for the tournament for the crown of Atlantia! But Heavy fighting is not all that Atlantia is known for. We have some of the best artisans in the Known World right in our own back yard. To that end the following actitivies will also be taking place on this grand day! A Tempore Atlantia competition for Pre-1000 entries. For more information, go to:http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Best Example of Carving in Bone, Antler or Horn. Documentation is required. Sponsored by Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg. For more information, contact Lady Martelle Knitting Competition "How Low Can You Go?" A twisted little competition sponsored by Baroness Rowen Berran McDowell. Knit a 4" x 4" square in the smallest thread/yarn on the smallest gauge needles YOU can. Period materials are NOT required but a small display including a sample of thread and the needles used is required. The winner will have knit the most stitches in the measured area. Scrivener Royal Competition. <> A completed scroll is the only qualification for entry. Scrolls can either be from Baronial awards or Kingdom, though it would be preferred that they be for a kingdom award. Scroll blanks are also welcome. Documentation is welcome, but not necessary. If you have any questions, please contact Lady Metylda the Cunning at bnearly at verizon.net. If your scroll is based on a specific period piece, you might wish to include a copy of the original. Best Use of a Crown or Coronet in Any Medium. Documentation of the medium required. Sponsored by Lady Roana de Laci. Please Contact for more information- MOAS Barony of Bright Hills Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com or KMOAS, Karen Larsdatter at- moas at atlantia.sca.org or for Tempore Atlantia Mistress Jessamyn di Piemonte grace.morris at providenceday.org Thank you! YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From markbush at adelphia.net Thu Apr 7 17:06:15 2005 From: markbush at adelphia.net (Mark Bush (personal account)) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:15 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest Message-ID: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you shoot the cat from the cannon for distance. I deleted it by accident. Can someone help? Please respond off-list. Wm (who does not like cats, but would never REALLY fire artillery loaded with them) of Glencoe From scacynwrig at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 17:36:37 2005 From: scacynwrig at yahoo.com (Kynnyth Pyke) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: Night on the Town prices In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050408003638.33485.qmail@web30211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, $19 for Feast & Cabin. (If you are a member). Any other questions please email Robert Bedingfield at elsworthy at netzero.com Also, if you have any funny jokes, interesting tidbits of information or just some spare time, go ahead and email him. He loves email. Kynny --- Lady Rhiannon of Berra wrote: > I'm confused and maybe I'm reading this wrong.... > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > Is what my email said. I'm really confused and I > can't figure out the > pricing structure now. > > $16 is the price for onboard with feast and an > additional $3 for a > cabin. So the total for each person who is staying > in cabin and > eating feast is $19 per person? > > Rhi (Gorm's wife) who is so very confused. > On Apr 6, 2005 1:37 PM, Kynnyth Pyke > wrote: > > > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > > > From: "elsworthy" > > > To: "Susan Troutman" > > > Cc: "Quhinten" > > > Subject: Night on the Town prices > > > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:17:28 +0000 > > > > > > Can Matt forward this to the Merry Rose? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > > > > > I have discovered an error in the Acorn > announcement > > > about the pricing for the Night on the Town > event in > > > Lochmere April 29-May 1. > > > > > > The Acorn lists the prices as off-bd $10, feast > $16. > > > While my head cook is very good, we're not > planning > > > a $16 feast. $16 is the ON-BOARD price. Cabins > > > remain $3 for the weekend, and non-members pay > the > > > surcharge whether they're on-bd or off-bd. > > > > > > Those who sent in too much for on-bd will > receive a > > > refund. > > > > > > Please pass the word along so everyone knows. > > > > > > As I'm the autocrat, I take responsibility for > the > > > error. Any questions, please contact me at > > > elsworthy at netzero.com. > > > > > > Robert Bedingfield > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > > > > -- > Lady Rhiannon of Berra > Canton of Rivers Point > Barony of Caer Mear > Kingdom of Atlantia > > Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything > offered to me > as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor > will I forward > chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus > warnings to large > numbers of others. This is my contribution to the > survival of the > online community. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Thu Apr 7 19:47:04 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 22:47:04 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul Message-ID: <003001c53be5$3fb0fb40$cb00a8c0@Kevlap> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aenor d'Anjou" To: "keep windmasters" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: *WH* Last call on Duke Paul > Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" > Greetings again. > Olivier, the Rose please? > > This is the last call for reserving a spot for Duke Paul of Bellatrix > fighting classes. > > Friday night Fundamentals class (10 spots left)(6 pm ), Sunday > Fundamentals > (6 spots)(Sunday 9:30 am) and Sunday Perception class ( 1pm 5 spots left.) > After this class well be an open Q&A session. > > > If we were to start the Friday class at 6 pm instead of 5:30 would that > allow anyone else to be able to attend? > > > > We will be accepting donations to the Duke Paul Travel Fund at the event. > A > reminder that he does not charge for classes- but help to defray the > travel > costs is always welcome. > > Please email me (aenor at ipass.net) for a spot on the list. Auditors to the > classes are welcome too. > -- > Ma?tresse A?nor d'Anjou (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) > www.angevintreasures.com > > > From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 7 19:58:23 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:58:23 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: That cat gun URL from a previous Digest In-Reply-To: <200504072359.j37Nxx430332@server2.netwaveinternet.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050407225752.032dbe88@pop.infionline.net> At 08:06 PM4/7/2005-0400, Mark Bush \(personal account\) wrote: >As much as I hate off topic posts, I just have to find that game where you (Responded privately.) end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 7 20:09:21 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures In-Reply-To: <008701c53a19$78820ef0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: It so reminds me of a fun game of cabbage ball. Except you keep playing till the ball finally falls apart. Another fun game would have been Viking Football. (I miss pennsic!) >From: "Ro" >To: , , > >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:55:45 -0400 > >Sticks?? > >We don' need no steenkin' sticks.... > >(Well, SOMEbody had to say it....) > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > It would have been worth the trip for this alone....(where are the >cambok >sticks?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jennifer / Guenievre > > To: 'Merry Rose' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:29:31 -0400 > > Subject: [MR] Coronation Cambok pictures > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Though I didn't get any good pictures of court or the like, I did manage >to > > take a bunch of shots of the Cambok game in the mud - if anyone is > > interested, they can be found at > > http://pics.livejournal.com/lady_guenievre/gallery/00008hra . These are > > smallish copies (640 x 480), I have much higher resolution ones >available >if > > anyone wants one. Of course, if you're in them, and don't want people >to > > see you in all your mudstained glory, let me know which ones to take >down > > and I will - they'll be up otherwise until I start getting tight on web > > space. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > YIS, > > > > Lady Gueni?vre de Monmarch? > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > ======================================================================== > > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > > Subscriptions: >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > > > >======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org >Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:01:14 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A&S Competitions At Crown, Pre-1000 A.D. Message-ID: <20050408120114.81471.qmail@web41213.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all! Mistress Ingvild Josefsdatter and Lord Owen Sherard Trahern wish to remind everyone that they are sponsoring the following Tempore Atlantia Competitions at Crown Tournament May 7th! Remember, Tempore Atlantia this time is Pre-1000 A.D. These are wonderful chances for those you with early period interests to show off your talents! * Best Calligraphed and Illuminated Manuscript Page (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Piece of Jewelry in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Meal (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Costume (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. * Best Household Item in any medium (POST-Roman and pre-1000 C.E.) Documentation is essential. For more details please contact Mistress Ingvild at 410.692.2076 or snspies at aol.com. The web sites are: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Crown Tournament: http://www.brighthills.net/events/CrownTourney.htm YIS to the A&S of Atlantia! Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg MOAS, Barony of Bright Hills "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 05:29:30 2005 From: mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com (Fletcher Martha) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Teachers Needed Please Message-ID: <20050408122930.22770.qmail@web41210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all from the Barony of Bright Hills! You may, or may not, know that the Barony is hosting the event "All Things Marshal" July 1-3, at the Dupont Equestrian Center in Northern Maryland. We are currently looking for trainers who would be willing to teach various and sundry Marshal classes. We already have lined up a track of classes for the MOL's and would like to offer Marshal classes for those who cannot attend University in NC in June. A specific call has gone for a class that will allow heavy marshals to renew thier warrents. If you would be interested in teaching. Please contact me - Lady Martelle Von Charlottenburg mrfletcher21133 at yahoo.com I am the cordinator for the teaching schedule and the A&S activities. Thank you for your kind attention to our request. Please feel free to post this announcement to any lists of interest. YIS to our fair Kingdom of Atlantia! Lady Martel "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." Here's my Home Business-I finish craft and needlework kits you haven't time for- http://www.darningegg.com/ Here's my SCA Website- http://www.speakeasy.org/~mefletcher/LadyMartelleVonCharlottenburg.html Visit my Diary! Yes it's true I have one too!- http://www.livejournal.com/users/martelvonc/ LbNA - P0/F2/X0/HH1/FF0 From belfebe at yahoo.com Fri Apr 8 10:34:00 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cloak Lost at Coronation Message-ID: <20050408173400.98656.qmail@web40429.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, At the time we left Coronation, we could not find one of our cloaks. It is a blue wool cloak, with hood, lined with taffeta. It has a pewter clasp. If anyone has seen it, please contact me off the list. Regards, Belphoebe -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From dragnar1 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:45:25 2005 From: dragnar1 at hotmail.com (Scott Wygal) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Gulf wars Pics web page is up Message-ID: Hi All, For those that are curious, my pics from gulf wars are here ... http://www.basespace.net/~swygal/gulf_wars.htm Home page is : http://www.basespace.net/~swygal At some point in the future I will be building my Target and Combat Archery pages out. Starting with CA. If you have any suggestions or content you would like to see please let me know. Its my first web development so be kind please. Gregor Von Leipzig From agincort at juno.com Fri Apr 8 15:06:12 2005 From: agincort at juno.com (agincort at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:12 -0400 Subject: [MR] Pennsic Archery novelty shoots Message-ID: <20050408.180612.-505279.7.agincort@juno.com> Greetings to you all- and particularly archers from the Known World! I have volunteered to take the job of scheduling the Pennsic Archery Novelty shoots for this years Pennsic War. Any person, group or Kingdom may sponsor a FUN shoot at targets on the archery range at Pennsic. The shoots are designed to allow some inventive fun with bows and arrows during the war, and to promote archery as a skill while giving people a good time. Is it really fun? Yes it is! Anyone who has done the Fuzzy animal shoot, from adults to children, will tell you how much fun a novelty shoot is! Not only that, but IKAC's may also be scheduled at these times for those who want to have them. Novelty shoots are run during times not used for shooting the regular War Point. How do you sponsor a shoot? Simple! 1) Plan a novelty shoot or challenge of some kind to other groups or to other kingdoms. It can be any kind of point scoring or simple test of skill, it can be silly or funny- as long as it is SAFE to do. Please realize that you will have to provide any special targets for your use. Also, please be aware that the shoot must be within set safety standards used by the SCA. Ask your Archery Marshal for advice! 2) Get yourself some local Archery Marshals to run the shoot with you. Sorry- Marshals are NOT provided. Be sure you have Marshals before you schedule the shoot. You MUST have a Marshal present to shoot. 3) Pick a DAY and TIME of day for the shoot. 1 hour increments are best unless you have something bigger to run. It also helps if you pick a specific range for the event. Long distance events ( over 60 yards ) need to be run on the CLOUT shooting range, so consider this before you schedule. NOTE- AS OF THIS WRITING ( early April ) THE OVERALL SCHEDULE FOR PENNSIC ARCHERY HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED- PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE DAYS OR TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. If past Pennsic schedules are used- Novelty shoots may be scheduled between 10 am to 4 pm, starting Wednesday, August 10th, and each day through Sunday, August 14th. 4) Please gather this information ? CONTACT INFORMATION- who will be in charge of this event- Name, phone, and email please NAME of SPONSORING GROUP (or person) NAME of the EVENT ( IKAC, Naked Mole Rats, etc. ) DAY you want to hold it on. ( Wednesday, August 10th, or any day through Sunday, August 14th ) TIME you want to hold it at. ( Between 10 am to 4 pm ) RANGE you would like to use- Your choices are: PRACTICE, SLOT, CLOUT or ADVANCING MAN Request the CLOUT shooting range for target distances longer than 60 yards. Once you have this done- email me at: pennsicarchery at raex.com OR: If you are NOT using the internet- you may mail me at: Dirk Hermance 3411 Highland Dr. Hubbard, OH 44425 Please write PENNSIC on the back of the envelope! Include an SASE with your letter. I will put you in the schedule- and/ or let you know if there are any conflicts! Further announcements will follow in the next couple of months once the Pennsic schedule is final. Thanks for your attention, and Happy shooting! THL Dirk Edward of Frisia Middle Kingdom From beth at cramton.com Sat Apr 9 02:11:47 2005 From: beth at cramton.com (Beth Tanner) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:11:47 -0400 Subject: [MR] Coronation Refunds Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050409050751.030fd800@mail.comcast.net> Gentle friends, For those of you who were unable to stay for the Coronation feast or have other reasons for requesting a refund, the autocrat has asked that all refund requests be submitted by Sunday 4/10 (that's tomorrow!) by 5pm so that she can complete the event report in a timely fashion. Please supply the following information: The event (Coronation, April 1-3 2005) Name Amount Reason for refund Address to send refund Refund requests can be sent to THL Tonwen ferch Morien via stroutman8 at comcast dot net Regards, Keilyn reservationist From apollonia at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 9 18:44:51 2005 From: apollonia at bellsouth.net (Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Message-ID: Court Report for Sacred Stone Novice Tourney Saturday, April 9, 2005 C.E. Her Excellency, Kisaiya Zingara, Baroness Sacred Stone, processed into court at 5:10 PM. She was followed by Their Excellencies, Geoffrey Athos von Ulm and Maddalena Salutati, Baron and Baronessa Windmasters Hill, Her Excellency Avlyn MacGregor, Baroness Black Diamond, and Duncan and Eyrick MacGregor, Baron and Baroness Hawkwood. Her Excellency Kisaiya asked the populace to be seated, then called forth the newcomers, and welcomed them. Her Excellency Kisaiya then gave gifts (made by House Lionslayer) to the visiting Baronage. Baron and Baroness Hawkwood gave Her Excellency Kisaiya back two parts of the Sacred Stone their group had from when they were a canton. She accepted it, and gave back half, as they were once a part of Sacred Stone and are still our friends. Baron Achbar ibn Ali was called into court to announce the days winners. Lady Graciella Esperanza de Seville and lady Derfina Enorami presented Her Excellency Kisaiya with two scroll blanks, both made by Derfina. Her Excellency awarded Derfina the Award of the Spirit of the Phoenix. Lady Annika Rowd was called into court and given the Award of the Ember for her casting. Lord Phillip Jager and Lord Rufus Pigboy were called into court and awarded the Talon of the Phoenix. Norice, Gwenwulf?s sister was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Oddny Knarrbringa was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lady Miriel Crawford was called into court and given the Award of the Drakken Egg. Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft was called into court and given the Award of the Flame. Lord Thorgrim Thiggvarsson was called into court and announce Her Excellency Kisaiya?s new archery guard. Baron Geoffrey Athos von Ulm then gave thanks and praise for the event. There being no further business, the court was closed at 6:15 PM. This report, done by my hand this 9th day of April in the C.E. 2005. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi, Cornet herald, Sacred Stone. Madonna Apollonia Margherita degli Albizzi Seneschal of the Canton of Salesberie Glen Cornet herald of Sacred Stone Kingdom of Atlantia! From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 21:27:43 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Message-ID: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon that there would be rapier combat archery that is different from heavy combat archery. I have never heard of any differences in combat archery, but since I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier guards/protection for authorization, and that I would just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - which they told me are different than the heavy combat archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If there is any other information anyone can provide to me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find it very helpful. Thank you. - Edonea MacKay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From silverdragon at charleston.net Sat Apr 9 22:00:34 2005 From: silverdragon at charleston.net (E L Wimett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:00:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO Robert Challoner Message-ID: <01LMWSA1DA3I9DXLSC@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> Mail addressed to Robert Challoner (Austin Whitley) by the College of Heralds of Atlantia has been returned as undeliverable. Would this gentle or someone who has his postal address please contact me offline? Thank you! Alisoun, Golden Dolphin From crossbow at freeshell.org Sun Apr 10 06:25:43 2005 From: crossbow at freeshell.org (Siegfried) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:25:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050410042743.75459.qmail@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42592957.6090104@freeshell.org> Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat arrows vs. heavy combat arrows is: A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have them, that's fine) B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage masks, and have injury issues do to their lack of padding). So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is perfectly fine. BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on authorizing 'rapier' CA, that you in fact end up being authorized in both rapier CA and heavy CA (ie, CA is CA)... However therefore be prepared to answer some basic questions about doing CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you die in heavy engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) Siegfried DMC in DC wrote: > Greetings, > > I am planning on attending the "Night on the Town" > event in a few weeks, and just heard this afternoon > that there would be rapier combat archery that is > different from heavy combat archery. I have never > heard of any differences in combat archery, but since > I have a 30# bow, I was told if I wanted to give this > a try that I could borrow a female friend's rapier > guards/protection for authorization, and that I would > just need to borrow special rapier combat arrows - > which they told me are different than the heavy combat > archery arrows. If someone out there has any of those > arrows and maybe a quiver to go with them that I could > borrow (or buy) for the event, please let me know. If > there is any other information anyone can provide to > me on this type of combat archer as well, I would find > it very helpful. > > Thank you. > > - Edonea MacKay > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > From xdmcx at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 10:29:48 2005 From: xdmcx at yahoo.com (DMC in DC) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From barysears at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 16:45:08 2005 From: barysears at comcast.net (Bary Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver In-Reply-To: <20050410172948.65687.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of DMC in DC Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: Siegfried Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver Thank you Barre and Siegfried for getting back to me. I am posting this to the MR as well so other fairly new archers like me might gain some knowledge from this as well. I plan on asking Ryryd at the practice today more about this type of combat archery and was hoping he could tell me what I need to know in the next few weeks on authorizing for CA. My main concern for combat archery was the armor. I have none, and it would take time to make, get together or borrow from various people. I was also concerned about the weight of the armor for heavy combat archery. I have worries about the weight effecting my back (three herniated disks-though minor-still a concern) and my knee. But then someone out of the blue said to me they would lend me their full rapier protection and that it would fit me. I was told that rapier protection is lighter and thus why certain heavy combat arrows (now I know you call them "Baldar Blunts" but had forgotten what theycalled them during the conversation) can not be used and why I am looking for any others that I can borrow or buy that I can use. If it is possible for me to make them in time and someone can show me how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. If I manage to get the chance to authorize and am able to do this at Night on the Town and enjoy it, there is the good chance I might try the heavy combat archery as well. - Edonea MacKay --- Siegfried wrote: > Actually, the only 'difference' in rapier combat > arrows vs. heavy combat > arrows is: > > A) You don't need APD's (though if your arrows have > them, that's fine) > > B) You can't use Baldar Blunts (because they damage > masks, and have > injury issues do to their lack of padding). > > So any UHMW, Markland, etc type Heavy ammo, is > perfectly fine. > > BTW Edona ... do realize that if you plan on > authorizing 'rapier' CA, > that you in fact end up being authorized in both > rapier CA and heavy CA > (ie, CA is CA)... > > However therefore be prepared to answer some basic > questions about doing > CA as a heavy (such as armor requirements, how you > die in heavy > engagements, and valid shooting angles&targets.) > > Siegfried --- Bary Sears wrote: > Actually, there is no difference between 'heavy' and > 'rapier' Combat > Archery, as they don't exist. There is just Combat > Archery and, when > authorized, you are authorized to shoot in both > heavy and rapier situations. > The real differences are in the armor standards - if > you shoot at Night on > the Town, you must meet rapier standards, which are > very much different from > heavy standards (you should read the rapier rules). > The other difference is > that you are not allowed to use Baldur blunts in > rapier scenarios. > > barre > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Sun Apr 10 18:34:02 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] TOC - Chirurgeon's Helpful Reminder Message-ID: <13eaa7713e3f02.13e3f0213eaa77@southeast.rr.com> Greetings from the Tournament of Chivalry Chirurgeons? Point! As you make your final preparations for attending TOC next weekend, please keep a few things in mind for yourself, children, loved ones and friends? Temperatures could range from low 40?s at night to the upper 70?s in the daytime as well as the unpredictable nature of spring weather ? Bring suitable garb for all occasions. The UV index is High ? Be prepared with appropriate cover, shades, sunscreen and water. The Allergy Index is High especially for Tree Pollen ? Anticipate your personal needs. We look forward to seeing everyone as friends ? not patients! :) Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From reyna at compascable.net Sat Apr 9 19:15:57 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:15:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla Message-ID: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Sun Apr 10 19:33:22 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Class Coordinator for TOC Message-ID: <20050411023322.16135.qmail@web50204.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings I am looking for whoever is coordinating the Sunday class session with Duke Paul of Bellatrix and would like to know if there are any openings remaining. Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 19:55:03 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:55:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind The Bardic is going to be Great Message-ID: <69pj51hsqfoi9533qjh205fnr1eae7j6gt@4ax.com> Talorgen nei Wrguist Has agreed to lead some of the Bardic Activity for this event. While the fire burn and glow let your voice of song and tales be heard throughout the Elchenburg lands. Bring your Bows, Tankards, Drums and Songs...Desert Wind is going to be a Great event. Achbar Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonesville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Booneville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 5 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., AutoCrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of The Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From knightfall at earthlink.net Sun Apr 10 20:20:55 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:20:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tourney of Lyons held in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain on April 29, 30 and May 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html Aaron Rebellinus autocrat From achbar at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 10 20:31:27 2005 From: achbar at bellsouth.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:31:27 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO of Mistress Claire Message-ID: She is a Ceramic Laurel inThe Barony Windmasters Hill. If you have contact information for her, please let me know. Achbar From deallac at juno.com Mon Apr 11 02:29:15 2005 From: deallac at juno.com (deallac at juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:29:15 GMT Subject: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows Message-ID: <20050411.022919.5555.283881@webmail25.lax.untd.com> Edonea One other thing to be aware of regarding rapier armor. When armored up, there should be no bare skin showing. That means that when you lean over to pick something up, your shirt doesn't ride up and expose your back, your gloves cover past the end of your shirt sleeve, etc.... Dealla (who will probably me marshalling the CA authorizations at Night on the town :) ) -------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:45:08 -0400 From: "Bary Sears" Subject: RE: [MR] Need to borrow (or buy) rapier combat archery arrows & quiver To: , "'Siegfried'" Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050410234452.068B71C321C at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only 'armor' you'll need for Rapier CA is a three-weapons face mask; a gorget for when there is schlager (as at Night on the town); 'impenetrable' cloth covering head, neck, throat and torso front and back; strong fabric covering everything else; leather gloves; solid shoes; and groin protection. Chest protection is recommended but not required. It doesn't sound like heavy CA is for you - the helmet will kill your back before anything else will! Barre From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 03:48:11 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:48:11 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baric at ToC Message-ID: <200504111048.j3BAmAL4004534@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Baric Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Baric Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00, and then the real Baric Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Baric Arts, Frances O'Reilly From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 05:16:34 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Re: Coronation A&S (Belated Results) In-Reply-To: <114BDD1D-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: <8BE5B4EC-AA83-11D9-983D-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> > Having email trouble here... > > Greetings! > > First of all, many thanks to all those good gentles who sponsored > competitions, and those who judged them! > > AND, many congratulations to all of those who brought their work > through the perilous weather for the competitions! > > Under Tempore Atlantia: > Best in Show: Baroness Belphoebe Givet > Best Documentation: Vrouwe Oriana vander Brugghe (Aethelmarc) > Religious Work: Dunstan le Heryngmonger (Mistress Susanna has your > prize, My Lord!) > Poetry: Graciela Esperanza de Seville > Knitted Work: Lady Ynes Garcia > Research on Knitting: > Lady Marie of Doune was given the Research prize in recognition for her > excellent documentation and overall quality of her entry. (There were > no > research entries.) > > Also: > Open Armour and Best Use of Fleur-de-Lys: Baroness Julian Hungerford > (You will need to contact the old and new Royals for your prize!) > > You can view entries at: > http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/2005-springcoronation/index.htm > > In Service, > Ms. Jessamyn di Piemonte, > > From SNSpies at aol.com Mon Apr 11 07:23:13 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:23:13 EDT Subject: [MR] Viking women in Scotland (Fwd: [Explorator] Digest Number 377) Message-ID: <15d.4e90c708.2f8be251@aol.com> In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:59:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Explorator at yahoogroups.com writes: On the DNA front, it appears the Vikings brought their wives with them: http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=366772005 From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 09:35:55 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown Tourney Message-ID: <20050411163555.29805.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, I am in need of transportation to Crown, preferrably a non-smoker (I'm trying really hard to quit). If you have space I'd really appreciate it. I can trade crash space for ride space if you need a place to crash. Thanks, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From grace.morris at providenceday.org Mon Apr 11 10:43:25 2005 From: grace.morris at providenceday.org (Grace Morris) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:43:25 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown Message-ID: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! Bring out your stuff! For complete information on Tempore Atlantlia go to: http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/tempore.htm Jessamyn di Piemonte From gillamd at uncw.edu Mon Apr 11 11:38:49 2005 From: gillamd at uncw.edu (Gillam, Denise) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Message-ID: <621A1D0B68C2594C80895862954FBB6B03124D9B@UNCWMAILVS1.dcs.uncw.edu> Forwarded for Their Majesties Caroline From: DCADENISE To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:23:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time Subject: Deadline for Letters of Intent - Friday, April 15th Greetings Fighters and Consorts of Atlantia; Reminder that the deadline for Letters of Intent for Spring Crown Tourney are due this Friday, April 15th. Robert and Denise From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:21:40 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Tourney - Toy Sword Message-ID: <000001c53ecb$b1ce2ed0$1c01b93f@Cathy> We arrived home and my son had returned with a plastic toy sword that does not belong to us. If you are the owner of said sword or know to whom it belongs, please let me know so that I can get this back to its rightful toy box. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill www.livejournal.com/users/allegranza www.calsnet.net/cmgates -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From allegranza at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 12:37:26 2005 From: allegranza at earthlink.net (Cathy Gates) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:37:26 -0400 Subject: [MR] Novice Heroes - Thanks Message-ID: <000101c53ecd$e5842e30$1c01b93f@Cathy> I would like to thank all of the gentles who helped me this week-end, with everything from getting me into the car to go to the hospital, to those who helped us pack, to those who stopped by and wished my ankle a quick return to good health and to those who got me home. Special thanks to Clan Roanwoulfe, House Lionslayer, the Shire of Crannog Mor, our host, Walter and his lovely wife (whose name I will have to learn - my apologies), Geoffrei (sp?) of Elchenberg and of course, the Baron Achbar. If there is anyone that I forgot, or to whom I simply didn't realize had helped me, I extend my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Allegranza Marcovaldi You may be a princess or the richest woman in the world, but you cannot be more than a lady. -Jennie Jerome Churchill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 From ladyro at comcast.net Mon Apr 11 12:48:29 2005 From: ladyro at comcast.net (Ro) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:48:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Message-ID: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:31 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213831.75312.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From bmcellis at yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:38:30 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] feast at TOC Fwd: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <20050411213830.50659.qmail@web54208.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bobbe's Mail wrote: > From: "Bobbe's Mail" > To: > Subject: *WH* Tournament of Chivalry > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:31 -0400 > > > > Please foward this to any list needing this > information: > > > > Greetings from the Reservationist, > > The Wonderful feast being served at Tournament of > Chivalry in now full. If you mailed your check in > Friday or Saturday, I might not have received your > reservation in time and you might not be on board. > I will contact all who didn't make it. > > > > Yours in Service, > > Zita Dominguez > mka Bobbe Herman > 7537 Newt Country Lane > Fuquay Varina, NC 27526 > > 919-795-0827 Cell # > 919-552-4197 Home # > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Mon Apr 11 15:12:14 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! In-Reply-To: <003401c53ecf$6f970dd0$0200a8c0@lightfoot> Message-ID: <077801c53ee3$84c9e790$6601a8c0@atoc> Hizzah! Hizzah! Hizzah! V?R?SHAJ? SOFFYA http://community.webshots.com/user/atasetofcreole -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Ro Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:48 PM To: Merry Rose Cc: brighthills at yahoogroups.com Subject: [MR] I read it in his BLOG! Their Excellencies Havorc and Mary Grace are the parents of a baby boy - Alexander Gatlin Martin. The young prince was born April 8 about 9:30 pm London Time. Everybody is home and healthy. I guess God has decided the world should go on a little longer. ;-D Welcome young Alexander to this strange, aggravating and wonderful world. Congratulations Mom and Dad, and Big Sister, you have a LOT to teach this little guy.... Best wishes Roana de Laci Bright Hills, Atlantia http://www.livejournal.com/users/ladyrowansplace/ ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 11 16:19:28 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: Bardic at ToC Message-ID: <200504112319.j3BNJX0V006187@ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Sorry about the misspelling, my spell check changed it on me. I am also looking for judges for the competition. Please email or call at the numbers below if you are interested. Thanks Frances _____ Greetings to the Populace! I am Frances O'Reilly, and with the help of my adult mentor, I will be holding a Bardic Competition at Tournament of Chivalry, from 3:30pm to 4:30pm. The theme is Chivalry, and you will be graded on your performance. Documentation is optional, but it will add points to your score. All are welcome! There will also be a Bardic Circle following Feast. Children are invited until 10:00pm, and then the real Bardic Circle begins! Any questions please e-mail me at my mom's e-mail, ariley2 at nc.rr.com or call (910) 639-4531, before 9:00pm. In service to the Bardic Arts, Frances O'Reilly From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 11 17:01:11 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Thank-yous from Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: Before I leap into a long list of thank-yous to individuals, let me say a big thank you to all the unknown and nameless gentles who lent a hand to help without any asking. You know who you are. You are the ones who stopped to pick up a piece of trash so that someone else need not do it. You are the ones who stopped and answered a newcomer's questions about what was where. You are the ones who stepped into the kitchen to help wash dishes as the spirit and energy of our fearless Cook was failing. You are the ones who graciously gave of your time to come to our little event and turn it into a huge success. It is for acts such as these that make me proud to be an Atlantian. Here are some of the thank-yous that are due to some special and wonderful people. Each of them did more than what is listed here. To Lord Siegfried McClure, my husband and ally, who put up with my self-doubt and bursts of energy, who seeded the idea of the group competitions, and who as Exchequer kept me on the straight and narrow. To Lady Morgaine of Donegal, who put her heart and soul into a feast that pleased so many, and made me proud to be one of her helpers. To Lord Otel Altunait and Lady Cairistiona de Coveran, who were my stewards in the hall and on the field. You made sure that everything was in its place and then made sure that it was all taken back up. Without you this event would have faltered. To my marshals, Baron Turgeis, Sayyid Achmed, Lord Kenwrec, and Lord Allen: You kept your competitions together and made sure that all your people had fun at the same time. Each was larger than in years past, and as successful. To Lady Kiara of Ironwood, for running the Lists, and putting up with the wind, the sun, the competitors, and the combat arrows. You handled all with calmness and dignity and the Canton is eternally thankful for your support. Also to Ysar and Ilse and others who name escapes me, who helped keep the tourneys running smoothly. To Baronnes Sunniva, for running the A&S competion and also for being a sounding board for my ideas. To Christina de Nedham for helping out with the A&S, and for many other countless tasks during the day. To Lady Anne Ramsay, for running the Troll booth with the smoothness and grace that I have come to expect from you, and for staying until the very end to help with the cleanup. To Lady Rowen ferch Rhys, for handling the merchants and then teaching and leading the dancing after feast. To Lady Blitha of Wolfhou, who organized the lunch, and organized the loading of the truck, and lead the making of the bannerlets and .... (you get my point) To Jennifer and the kids from the Mary Washington Ren Club: You helped us and we helped you, and all had fun and a grand time. This years server auction had some of the most contested bidding I have seen. To Lady Aelfwynn of Whitby: You stepped forward and offered your services as Children's Point leader, and for that I am eternally thankful. You are as dear to me as any sister, and all should know that. And to your husband, Sigurd, for supporting you and helping out when you felt a little ill and needed a break. To Miriel de Nedham and Lady Elenor du Chester, who kept an eye on my children at times. Knowing that capable eyes were on my children was a great relief. To Lady Miriam Calvert of Gidiehall and Chandani (formerly known as Briar): You took on the tasks of running Chirurgeon's Point and Waterbearing. I looked down on the field and saw happy people, who were kept that way through your good services. To Lady Adrianna, who came down from the Barony to help take newcomers in hand and show them the ropes. To Baron Ivan, who came down to help set up the Silent Auction in his wife's place, and to Lady Alwynne of Rivenstar, who took over the rest of the duties of the Auction. To Lord Aedan ui Neill, who sent heralds to and fro to run messages to all who needed to hear. To all those of the Canton (and beyond), who helped before the event as well as the day itself: Samuel Calvert, Ringer, Bubba of Wolfhou, Morsdesuper, Manus O'Kean, Ceridwen, Ilse, Manus macDhai, and many more whose names escape me and that makes me feel very guilty. To my Baron and Baronness, Colum and Brianna, for their friendship and guidance. I am honored to be among your subjects. And finally, to one whose Presence graced our fair Canton beyond compare: Her Royal Majesty Denise. I was honored and humbled by your presence and fervently hope that you know much it meant to all of us for you to come and share your day with us so quickly after your Coronation. In Service to my Crown, my Barony, and my Canton Ly Elizabeth of Hadley Hall Autocrat, Defending the Gate IV Chronicler, Canton of Sudentorre Lozengy Or and Vert a Chief Sable From nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org Mon Apr 11 17:14:14 2005 From: nothingbutadame at inthe.sca.org (Terri Morgan) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:14:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tempore Atlantia at Crown In-Reply-To: <34B0AF36-AAB1-11D9-8F56-000393DA0BCC@providenceday.org> Message-ID: > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! > Bring out your stuff! But it's not stuff yet...* Yours in Monty, Hrothny *Good thing we've got a few more weeks. From Adendra at charleston.net Mon Apr 11 21:20:22 2005 From: Adendra at charleston.net (Brenda Butler) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:20:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] new arrival Message-ID: <02c301c53f16$f2859bc0$bf11a6a5@0021172285> Hidden Mountain welcomes the newest addition to the Future Fighters of Atlantia! Zachery Wyatt Paris arrived at 0103 AM Monday April 11th, weighing in at 8 lbs. 6 oz and 21 1/2 in long. Mom and Dad, Baroness Mistylla of the Misty Isles and Baron Erik Norton of Helsfjord, are doing well. I can attest to his fine set of lungs which will put fear into his opponents! Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 05:55:34 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop- April 20- Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050412125534.74001.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:50:07 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at the Tourney of Chivalry reminder Message-ID: <20050412185007.87009.qmail@web53709.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded by request. RangerNealson at aol.com wrote: Greetings to the Talented and Generous Populace of Atlantia- Just a reminder that there will be a silent auction this Saturday at the Tournament of Chivalry. I will be setting up tables to place priceless treasures on at 10:30 and the last bids will be taken at 4:30 pm. This auction is specifically to raise funds for the Kingdom Travel Fund. If you have anything that you would like to donate to that noble cause, please consider bringing it and donating it. We are asking that you not bring foodstuffs for this fundraiser, as a seperate fundraiser involving edibles will also be held at the ToC. (so bring foodstuffs for that one) :-) Please contact me with questions/comments/donations. I would like to know as much as possible about what I may have available at the auction beforehand. The exact location of the auction has not yet been established, but it will be either in the feast hall or just outside it. Yours in service, Dunstan LeHeryngmongere Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From frenchfriedfae at cox.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:52 2005 From: frenchfriedfae at cox.net (frenchfriedfae at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tournament of Chivlary A&S - Judges Needed Message-ID: <20050413003751.VZKI11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings. I am Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus. We are in dire need for judges this coming weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Competitions will include: Field Presence (by individuals and/or households), Heraldic Art (art which has heraldic elements), and Poetry with the theme of Chivalry. We will also hold Bardic competition with the theme of Chivalry. If you are knowledgable in one or more of these areas, are coming to TOC, and are willing to help out the Kingdom of Atlantia, please contact me at frenchfriedfae at cox.net. If there is no time to contact me before this weekend, you may contact Lady Terasia or me at the event. Your time and interest are appreciated. Yours in Service, Lasairfh?ona Dubh ingen Aengus From scry42 at cox.net Tue Apr 12 19:07:30 2005 From: scry42 at cox.net (scry42 at cox.net) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tir-Y-Don Baronial Birthday XXX Message-ID: <20050413020729.FBSS19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Greetings All! Here is the link to the website for Tir-Y-Don's XXX Baronial Birthday -- to be held Saturday, April 30th in Newport News, Virginia... http://members.cox.net/scry42/BaronialBirthday/bb30.htm Deadline for pre-registration is TAX DAY, April 15th. Advance apologies for cross-postings and duplications... Questions regarding the event can be directed to the co-autocrat: Lady Eadan ingen Cecht, Co-autocrat Wildly enthusiastic Baronial Rapier Champion for the Barony of Tir-Y-Don 1/3 of the membership of the Order of the Flying Sea Monkey Scholar, Academie d'Espee Myrmidon, Kingdom of Atlantia scry42 at cox.net christy.hemenway at ferguson.com "The best aphrodisiac is good conversation..." -- Anonymous From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 05:09:47 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907@radix.net> Hi! I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina can help me. One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more than 250 people. If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will forward the emails to her. Thank you for your help. Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald From SNSpies at aol.com Wed Apr 13 09:52:43 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:43 EDT Subject: [MR] purple carrots Message-ID: <88.24b93306.2f8ea85b@aol.com> I thought these might have disappeared since I first saw them in Florida over a decade ago, but apparently they are still available; you can even grow your own from seed! Thought this might be of interest to all your medieval cooks out there ... _The modern story of Maroon Carrots_ (http://website.lineone.net/~stolarczyk/maroon.html) Ingvild From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:34:10 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:34:10 EDT Subject: [MR] OT: For True Fiber Geeks... Message-ID: This link came up on another list that I'm on. I thought it was interesting to see how fabric is developing. Maddalena http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/science/12text.html?ex=1114056000&en=13c6994 e317ecf1c&ei=5070 From MaddNancy at aol.com Wed Apr 13 10:40:19 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:40:19 EDT Subject: [MR] Fwd: Sir Lee Frebrand Message-ID: <99.5c47f6ab.2f8eb383@aol.com> >From a Meridian list Sir Lee's (Bill Lee)service will be this Saturday in Olive Branch, MS. Brantley Funeral Home....6875 Cockrum St. (I hope the spelling is correct). Between 2pm-5pm Everyone, please pass this information on all. Please post it where it could be useful. NO FLOWERS....Lee's request. Also, pass on the information to all about where to send donations to his wife and son. Sir Lee represented everything that was good about what we try to do in the SCA. He was kind, helpful, generous, and shared his knowledge and talent with anyone. He cared about the ideals of fighting and combat, NOT about winning (it didn't stop him from whipping all our butts though). I think about what some of our fighters say now about knights that may not be the greatest examples of Chivalry. I can only say this...Lee Frebrand was a Knight, in every good definition of the word. If there was one reason to have the Order of the Chivalry in the SCA, Lee was that reason. He loved his wife and son and he made EVERYONE around him better. We will never see his like again but I was blessed and honored to know him. I hope to see him again someday. John the Bearkiller From eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:05:33 2005 From: eilionoraingheanuilliam at hotmail.com (Eleanor FitzWilliam) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue In-Reply-To: <20050413160007.832541C3234@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: Forwarded to the Seareach List Eilionora inghean Uilliam *~*~*~*~*~*~* Or, a phoenix, head to sinister, issuant from base gules and in chief three suns sable. Shire of Seareach ---> seareach.atlantia.sca.org mka Ashley Elmore >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:47 +0300 >From: Judy Gerjuoy >Subject: [MR] SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue >To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org, Jaelle#radix.net at radix.net >Message-ID: <425D0C0B.1070907 at radix.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Hi! > >I am hoping that one or more of the people from Eastern North Carolina >can help me. > >One of my Drachenwalders now lives in Eastern North Carolina, and is >planning on getting married this September.. She is looking for a site >for her wedding. She is currently looking in the Wilmington or South >Port areas. She is not looking for a church wedding. Probably no more >than 250 people. > >If anyone can help her, please respond to me or on list, and I will >forward the emails to her. > >Thank you for your help. > >Mistress Jaelle of Armida, former Atlantian now living in Drachenwald > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 16:09:34 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Archery Marshall Needed Message-ID: <20050413230935.77611.qmail@web50210.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We are in need of someone to run the target archery for Tourney of Lyons which is the weekend of April 29, 30 and May 1st. If anyone would be interested please contact me privately at andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (andronikos underline psellos) Thank You, Andronikos --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From bmcellis at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 19:54:56 2005 From: bmcellis at yahoo.com (Becky McEllistrem) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Hotels near ToC Message-ID: <20050414025457.67324.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com> There is still more crash space near TOC as well. Rebecca --- Linda Goldman wrote: > From: "Linda Goldman" > To: > Subject: *WH* Hotels near ToC > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:29:11 -0400 > > Good gentles, > Here is the link again for hotels near ToC Eogan!>....please post to other lists you think > would benefit from the information.. > > http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&q=hotels&near=Fuquay+Varina,+NC+27526&sa=X&oi=localr > > > Thanks, > Ceridwen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 13 19:59:50 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (Andreas de Caunteton) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterbarers & Chirurgeons - TOC Message-ID: <425DDCA6.7030506@nc.rr.com> The Waterbarers and Chirurgeon Point at Tournament of Chivalry would appreciate any help that the Chirurgeons & Waterbarers of Atlantia can provide. Apprentices are welcome and anyone with an urge to serve is welcome to assist even if just for a little while. For those with other pressing duties for the day, please stop by and say "Hi!" We would love to see you! :) From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 20:47:59 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Marinus Scriptorium's Website URL changed Message-ID: <380f9a7905041320471ea9266c@mail.gmail.com> We are now located at: http://baronyofmarinus.org/scriptorium/ We have the best scribes link page in the Known World! How do I know? Well...sigh.. seems I have been to most of them...grin. Tristan de Brailesford Web minister of Marinus Scriptorium Baronial Web Minister's Deputy -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 21:40:11 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Feast Message-ID: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Nobles and Gentles of Atlantia: It's not too late to decide you want to attend Crown and want to eat feast. We still have quite a few seats left. Come and join us! Lady Yseulte Trevelyn, autocrat __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jaelle at radix.net Wed Apr 13 23:18:51 2005 From: jaelle at radix.net (Judy Gerjuoy) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +0300 Subject: [MR] RE: SCA Bride to be looking for a wedding venue Message-ID: <425E0B4B.6060806@radix.net> I just wanted to thank everyone for their help with this project. The response has been overwhelming. I knew that Atlantians were wonderful, and this proves it. Thank you everyone, and if anyone has more information, please send it. Thanks again! Jaelle From mwalsh at towson.edu Thu Apr 14 07:20:39 2005 From: mwalsh at towson.edu (Walsh, Michele) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [MR] FW: A question? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Walsh, Michele > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Bright Hills group (E-mail) > Subject: A question? > > > Yester morning, while walking the (concrete) path in to the building, I came across a salamander. Poor thing, dead and dried hard, but beautiful! I would love to turn him into a large cloak brooch/pin. Is there anyone in the Barony who does jewelry? Can tell me if this is possible? About how much it might cost? > > I can be contacted privately at: mwalsh at towson.edu > > Safe Journeys > michele/tavi From tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Thu Apr 14 14:08:58 2005 From: tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org (Tracie Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:08:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] re: question about jewelry Message-ID: <425EDBEA.9080006@stormcrow.org> Hrm, without much thought (as I sit here reading/glancing at emails this afternoon) - the only thing that springs to mind on this subject is to 'cast' the departed creature in resin, set the cast resin in a bezel that is prepared as a brooch/pin...if that makes sense. Never having done this type of work, nor knowing the process by which one sets something into clear resin (I remember a piece my older brother used to have of a small scorpion; it just wasn't a pin, it was a paperweight); I cannot speculate on cost. I hope this rambling helps some, it sounds like an intriquing project, and I wish the artist the best of luck (and the owner as well!) Miriel Crawford Tyger Phoenix Crafts Canton of Charlesbury Crossing From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Thu Apr 14 14:03:03 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Bayeaux Tapestry Message-ID: <0c9301c54135$59fbbf30$6601a8c0@atoc> Okay, not OT if you're a hamster... I don't recall anyone mentioning this, but someone on another list pointed out the parent stem of the following: http://www.hamsteropera.co.uk/history0013a.jpg If it's new to you, enjoy! Cheers, Folo From DCADENISE at aol.com Thu Apr 14 16:15:32 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:15:32 EDT Subject: [MR] Letter of Intent Deadline for Crown-tomorrow 4/15/2005 Message-ID: <1f8.7c1441c.2f905394@aol.com> Greetings to All in the Tavern; One last reminder. Letters of Intent for Crown need to be in by April 15th - tomorrow Denise From baron_alaric at yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 19:43:06 2005 From: baron_alaric at yahoo.com (Eric Moorefield) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Windmasters' Hill war practice this Sunday Message-ID: <20050415024306.28446.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings to all, This Sunday, April 17, the barony of Windmasters' Hill will be holding our monthly war practice. It will be at noon at Optimist Farm, the site of Tournament of Chivalry, also this weekend. So, those of you who are coming for the event, please consider sticking around for a couple of extra hours and joining us. This is primarily a melee practice, designed to work on unit tactics and skills. Bring you war gear and get in on the fun. The more people we have, the better the practice will be. Directions are available here: http://acorn.atlantia.sca.org/0504/toc.htm Thanks for your attention, Alaric Domhnullach Knight Marshal Windmasters' Hill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From achbar at earthlink.net Fri Apr 15 04:04:58 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Black Prince's Birthday Message-ID: Kingdom of Atlantia Event Flyer Submission Form -- Name of Event: The Black Prince`s Birthday Date(s) of Event: May 20-22 Hosting Group: Barony of Black Diamond Update to existing flyer? Yes Description: The Year is 1359, the site is England. In celebration of Edward, the Prince of Wales upcoming birthday a day of tournament, feast and revelry has been declared. The Barony of Black Diamond calls forth the most Noble of combatants, to bring their weapons of choice, their skill and prowess to this most Honorable field. Heralds declare that this is a day for all Atlantia, to celebrate on of the most historical men in history and quite possibly the 14th century. A day of skills to test martial skills as well as those skilled in the arts.To celebrate the Black Prince`s birthday in all its glory we ask that you wear and display your finest garb.At the height of the day`s martial activities will be honor, for honor is what holds a fighter true to their skills and path.This event will test this virtue and we know that Atlantia`s fighters will not let us down. Website: Martial Activities: Friday evening will be a torchlight tourney for both heavy and rapier in a traditional bearpit.Saturday will play host to heavy and rapier tournaments themed around honor.We encourage fighters to bring a consort and a herald, but this is not necessary for entry into the tourneys. There will be a target archery competition as well. Mounted games will be in attendance. Please contact:Baroness Beatrice von Staufen at: baronessbeatrice at hotmail.com MIC:Baron Achbar ibn Ali(James Morrow) achbar at earthlink.net Arts & Sciences Activities: Arts and sciences:There will be several competitions including but not limited to, best use of a Barony`s heraldry, best period encampment, illumination, personal heraldry, novice display, bardic, best field herald and open display.For further information contact: TH Lady Alianor Atte Redswane at: redswane at bellsouth.net Cost: Adult, Member: $7.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $10.00 Camping Adult, Non-Member: $10.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $13.00 Camping Child (6-17): $3.00 Day-Trip $8.00 Feast $5.00 Camping Child (0-5): $0.00 Day-Trip $0.00 Feast $0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Please make checks payable to: Barony of Black Diamond,SCA inc. Reservations postmarked before 4-30-05 will receive a $3.00 discount. Site: Bland county fairgrounds, Bland, Va. 24315 Site Restrictions: Discreetly wet, no modern containers. Pets must be on a leash. Feast Information: Feast:In grand celebration of the birthday a 4 remove feast will be prepared by Lady Senga MacBeathain (Beth Fox).Please contact her at: lioness635 at earthlink.com for dietary concerns or questions. Merchanting Information: Merchants are encouraged to attend and need to contact the field steward@: luther_josephus at yahoo.com with the size of the pavilion. There is no merchant fee but space is limited to outdoors. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Ravenna Storm(Brett Mcpeak), PO Box 452 Max Meadows VA, 24360. Phone Number(276)699-9658, E-mail: ravennastorm at yahoo.com Reservations: Send reservations to autocrat Directions: From the south: Make your best route to I-77 north. Once in VA follow I-77 north towards Wytheville. I-77 will connect with I-81 south. Follow I-77 north until it splits with I-81. Stay on I-77 north towards Bluefield, WV. Take exit 52 off of I-77. At bottom of ramp take a right. At stop sign take a right and follow SCA signs. From the north: Take I-81 south to I-77 north towards Bluefield. Follow above directions from there. From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 05:45:21 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Aoife-Links: Topic Necomers Message-ID: <20050415124521.6109.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com> This was on the SCA-Chatelaines list and I thought it worth passing along. Please remember that we have a decent list of links on our own newcomers page and I would love to have more info written by the people of Atlantia. Kisaiya Zingara, Chatelaine of Atlantia ********************************************** Greetings, my Faithful Readers! This week's Links List is about new members, and what we can do for them. Every year I try to do a "New Members Guide", and below you'll find this year's effort. It's true that there is a great deal of information on the SCA for our new members to find, but sometimes it is tough or confusing to sort through. I'd like to suggest that each kingdom have a newcomer's page attached to the front page of the kingdom website (or an icon: "newcomers click here!"). Several kingdoms DO have a new member's page, and I have listed those excellent sites below. I usually ask everyone to forward the weekly list wherever they think it will find a ready readership. Doing so is doubly important for the Newcomer's Guide. Newcomers are the lifeblood of the Society. They bring fresh levels of knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and enthusiasm to this past-time of ours, and I think it's important to start them off on the right foot, offering a helping hand wherever we must. How well I remember my first garb (I used flat washers sewn to the satin dress, instead of grommets), my first stint as a cook (we made spaghetti), my first name (found in a baby-name book), and my first taste of real historical atmosphere (ask me the story one day. It is VERY cool and starts out with "No sh*t, there I was at my First Pennsic....). That first dress was sold at an SCA garage sale (and was stripped of it's washers to make armor). The first name was dropped fairly quickly (would YOU want to be called Marigold?). That first feast evolved into an oft-told story of kitchen fun. And that Very cool story? Well, it involves gold coins, firelight, secret negotiations, mercenaries, and Uncle Feral's Rocket Fuel.... Below there are links to finding names, to developing heraldry, to researching a personae, how to camp successfully in a medieval atmosphere, how to garb one's person in a handy and quick manner, and many other good sites for that wonderful person who is new to the SCA. So, pass this list along, and while you're at it, pass along a story of when YOU were new to the SCA. Because the best thing about newcomers is that they've never heard your stories before....and that's the perfect excuse for a Bardic tale told 'round the fire. Cheers! Aoife Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Canton of Riverouge Barony of the Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc SCA Member Service http://www.sca.org/members/welcome.html (Site Excerpt) There are several levels of membership in the Society: a Sustaining membership ($35) includes a year's subscription to your kingdom's newsletter, which contains kingdom news, announcements for events taking place in your area, and local group contacts. Lower-priced Associate and Family memberships are also available. How To Find A Group Near You http://www.sca.org/findsca.html (Site Excerpt) The primary contact point in every group is the group president, called the "Seneschal". Some groups also have an officer whosejob is to assist newcomers; usually called the "Chatelaine", "Hospitaller", or "Gold Key". When phoning an SCA officer, ask for them by their legal name, even if their SCA name is listed. Most of these people also work outside of their homes. Please call after working hours, and before 10 p.m.(2200 hours) their local time. Advice to Newcomers by Countess Alys Katherine(an early article by the current Society Chatelaine) http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/advcnew.htm (Site Excerpt) No matter whether a long time SCA member brought you to your first meeting or you came by yourself, there's always a period of adjustment to this very different world. How can you get yourself oriented to all the new things and begin to have some fun? Stefan's Florilegium Newcomer's Section http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/idxnew.html (Site Excerpt-21 links to further reading) This is a collection of files that I have assembled from various sources since I first joined the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) in 1989. The information in these files comes from the Rialto newsgroup (rec.org.sca), the old fidonet medieval echo conferance area, various mail lists and articles submitted to me by their authors. Valhala Moon: Beginners Guide to Events http://www.geocities.com/softigerain/events.html (Site Excerpt) Now that you've gotten used to the SCA, it's time to join in the fun and attend an event. If you've joined as a paid member, events will be listed in your copy of the ?stel. If you have not joined officially, ask other members of the Shire about upcoming events. Most often, they can point you in the direction of the sort of event you would enjoy, whether it would be a tournament, an arts and crafts demo, or Pennsic. If someone you already know is going, ask to carpool with them. Teenagers and the SCA-Some Answers for Parents http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1154/articles.html (Site Excerpt) Your teenager has decided to become active in the local chapter of the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA). Congratulations! Your teen has joined an organization where: Courtesy is expected; Learning is valued; Creativity is Encouraged; Safety is stressed; People are judged on their accomplishments and merits. Stefan's Florilegium: Children (in the SCA) http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/children-msg.html (Site Excerpt of ONE message) Our other coping strategy was a young lady who attended events with us. If Brigid was along, we paid Kilde's way as payment for her help with Brigid. This was a shared activity, not a full-time babysitting arrangement. At camping events, we would take turns on who spent the evening in camp and who went camp hopping. At indoor events, Kilde would help out if, for example, we both had business in Court and Kilde would hold Brigid. When Kilde went to college, we got lost! We had truely been spoiled. Articles for Newcomers By Gunnbjorn http://ic.net/~blues/articles.htm SCA Inc's Newcomer Information Page http://www.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) This page is aimed at helping newcomers to the Society for Creative Anachronism get started. Yahoogroup for SCA Newcomers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanewcomers/ (Site Excerpt) This is a place for newcomers to the SCA to discuss arms, names, heavy weapons fighting, garb and other topics unique to the SCA.Please feel free to ask any questions you have, as many of the members of this club are longtime SCA participants who are here to answer your questions. Remember there are no stupid questions here. *****There is a search function in the Messages section if you would like to check previous answers and see if they help with your question but repeat questions are always welcome too.***** Getting Started with Garb in the SCA http://home1.gte.net/kmvogt/kgetstarted.html (Site Excerpt) When you went to your very first SCA meeting or event, you most likely wore some clothing borrowed from another member, or maybe you just happened upon a "demo" in your jeans and t-shirt. But now that the SCA has caught your attention, you would like to look a bit more presentable. Take some time to look around at other members. See what they are wearing. Ask questions about their Personas' time-periods and countries of origin. Decide what style you like best. Or perhaps you've always been interested in Vikings or the typical schoolbook "Knight". Ask around and you are sure to find someone who knows a little bit (or maybe even a lot) about the things that interest you. Camping 101 by Justin du Coeur http://jducoeur.org/carolingia/jerky.html A collected selection of tips for the first-time medieval camper. CHOOSING A NAME & CREATING A PERSONA by Modar Neznanich http://www2.kumc.edu/itc/staff/rknight/Names.htm (Site Excerpt) To be able to select a SCA name for yourself and begin creating your persona story, you must first decided what culture you desire to be from. There are many means useable to determine what culture you should choose. Some people look at the clothes worn by many cultures throughout various times and establish a selection based on what clothes they want to wear. Other people will think about what activities and crafts they are interested in and base a decision on the cultures known for expertise in those areas. Still others will investigate their personal lineage and choose the background of their family heritage as their SCA culture. Yet others will pick their SCA culture based from a historical interest on a particular society. Whatever means you choose to use is quite acceptable. Medieval Names Archive (St Gabriel's Guild) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ First-time garbing, SCA-style http://www.southern-shores.org/gull/articles/sewing/first_garb.htm(Site Excerpt) Usually basic costuming is told to the new to the SCA as,pre 13th century clothing. What we call 't-tunics' fit a plethora of lands of that time period, are extremely easy, and you can layer. Layering is something you will become adept at if you are to spend anytime in the SCA at all. Garb Links http://www.geocities.com/lorddonal/Garb.htm Literally hundreds of links to costuming SCA Arts and Sciences Homepage (Two pages hold this title. I give both links) http://www.sca.org/officers/arts/index.html http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/arts_and_sciences.html SCA Links of General Interest http://www.sca.org/misc.html SCA Arts of Combat and Chivalry http://www.sca.org/chivarts.html SCA Heraldry webpage http://www.sca.org/heraldry/welcome.html Kingdom Chatelaine Newcomer web pages: Atlantia: Welcome to the SCA http://chatelaine.atlantia.sca.org/newcomers.html (Site Excerpt) Within the confines of the SCA, we study the martial aspects of the Middle Ages, including armored combat, fencing, archery, siege weapons and more. We also study the arts and sciences, including music, poetry, cooking, singing, dancing, etc. There are people throughout the society who teach these skills in order to help us re-create this time period. We have been known to brag that if it existed during those times,someone is learning to do it now! Ansteorra: Welcome to the Current Middle Ages! http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/ SEE ALSO: http://www.ansteorra.org/regnum/hospitaler/articles/fip.htm (Forward into the Past) Caid: Newcomer's Guild http://www.sca-caid.org/chatelaine/newcomers/ (Site Excerpt) Welcome to the Kingdom of Caid's Newcomer Site. The information you will find in these pages is written for the ladies and lords who have recently joined the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), as well as those who may be considering joining and would like to find more about the Current Middle Ages within the Kingdom of Caid. Those of you who already know their way through the Known World of the Current Middle Ages may find this site useful for general resource information, as it has many links to other SCA sites. Drachenwald: New Members packet http://www.drachenwald.sca.org/files/chatelaine/page4.html (Site excerpt) As mentioned above, a way to help new people feel comfortable in the SCA is to give them a New Members Packet. This could include such things as:- a welcome letter from the seneschal or chatelain, - a local membership/phone or e-mail list, - a list of SCA terms and definitions, - a local newsletter,- an article on developing a persona, - a list of who to contact for information on various arts and sciences, - a list of SCA publications, (as in the back of Tournaments Illuminated) and how to obtain them. - Basic information on heraldry,... West Kingdom: Welcome to the Middle Ages http://www.westkingdom.org/welcome.phtml (Site Excerpt) Part of the fun in joining the S.C.A. is selecting a persona, or a personal character from a specific historic time and place. Each person chooses a chronological and geographic time frame, and proceeds to research customs, manners, ethics, dress, eating habits, and many other factors from his chosen time and place to "flesh out" the characteristics of his persona from the past. The only restriction is that a persona may not be an actual historic figure, nor one from mythology or literature. The research about this persona may be as complex or as simple as the individual chooses. If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net as she is unable to respond in this account _______________________________________________ Aoife-Links mailing list Aoife-Links at scatoday.net http://scatoday.net/mailman/listinfo/aoife-links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org Fri Apr 15 06:28:24 2005 From: Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org (Martinsen at atlantia.sca.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:28:24 -0500 Subject: [MR] OT/OOP Job Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pardon the interuption: My company is looking for a Construction Purchasing Assistant for a High end Development in Annapolis, MD. If interested in more info, either email me off line or go to http://www.careerbuilder.com/share/det.asp?d=JY28V79RG2XN7PBXB0 Thanks!!! Vitha From troenwolf at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 09:57:35 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:57:35 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO Alejandro Mateo Ramirez y Mendoza Message-ID: Please contact me at your convenience about your backlog Pearl scroll. Thanks, Amie Sparrow From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 10:07:53 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:07:53 EDT Subject: [MR] Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <1ad.35cb0b3e.2f914ee9@aol.com> Greetings! There will be a bake sale at Tournament of Chivalry starting at 9am featuring breakfast and baked goods as well as nonalcoholic beverages. We are raising funds for the beautification of the barony - my goal is to see each member of the barony wearing a Kittyhawk, be it on a tabard, cloak or baldric! House Flamingbolt has graciously agreed to host the bake sale, so please look for their sign! Many thanks, Baronessa Maddalena From MaddNancy at aol.com Fri Apr 15 11:53:34 2005 From: MaddNancy at aol.com (MaddNancy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:53:34 EDT Subject: [MR] Clarification on Bake Sale at Tournament of Chivalry Message-ID: <154.4f36fb1e.2f9167ae@aol.com> In order to make sure we are complying with the rules on fundraising I wanted to clarify that this is a private fundraiser not sponsored by the Barony of Windmasters' Hill. Geoffrey and I as the Baronage of Windmasters' are supporting the individuals sponsoring beatification projects in the Barony and will be contributing ourselves. The funds will not be held as baronial or SCA, Inc. funds. Maddalena Baronessa, Windmasters' Hill From olwentheodd at hotmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:51 2005 From: olwentheodd at hotmail.com (Olwen the Odd) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:11:51 +0000 Subject: [MR] There's room at the Crown Silent Auction too! In-Reply-To: <20050414044012.83476.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good gentles, please pray attend! For those of you who plan to journey to the Fair Lands of Bright Hills to partake in the joyous event of watching the bashing of one another for the successful outcome of becoming our most High Prince and Princess, be it known that there shall be a silent auction for those more inclined to another sort of challenge. Offerings are coming in and I further encourage any gentle (or gentle Merchant!) who wishes to bring along a donation or two for our tables. Donations will be accepted between now and noon on May 7th. If you plan to bring a donation along, please let me know before hand to expect something. There will be a rack for hanging clothing objects (hint hint). The close of auction will be posted as soon as I can figure out the schedule of events for sure, I am looking toward 4 o'clock PM, but must double check with the "powers that be". Proceeds will be divided between the Royal Travel fund and the newcomers guild of Bright Hills Barony. Cariad a heddwch (love and peace) (please forgive any mis-spellings, I can barely see the screen any longer) THLady Olwen the Odd Clan of Odds House Blackstar Bright Hills Cooks Guild Order of the Pearl Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia! From daria at brewer.sca.org Sat Apr 16 07:35:10 2005 From: daria at brewer.sca.org (daria at brewer.sca.org) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [MR] OT - Salt Aquarium Set Message-ID: <2264.172.139.36.61.1113662110.squirrel@secure.sca.org> Sorry for the off topic post. I have a 25 gallon salt water aquarium complete with live rock and fish cost new around $700 - asking $250 obo Please contact off list at daria at brewer.sca.org or 703-565-3933 Daria From leofwynne1 at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 08:08:17 2005 From: leofwynne1 at comcast.net (Christine Brandel) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] Assistance for Sapphire Joust A&S Message-ID: <20050416150834.8FC901C3235@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Greetings, all, on this fine spring day! As the coordinator for Arts and Sciences competitions and displays for Sapphire Joust this year, I am in need of volunteers to help with this portion of the event. For Saturday, I would like to have a minimum of four individuals to help with check in and display of items, and to sit with the displays during the day. I am looking for people willing to donate an hour or two during the day. On Sunday, I would like to offer A&S classes in the morning/early part of the day. This is a great opportunity for those teaching at University the next weekend to practice their class. Please let me know if you would like to be included in the schedule. I also have need of draping materials for display tables, and for banners and hangings for the A&S pavilion, if there are any who would be willing to lend. As always, I am grateful for the assistance of Atlantia's fine people. Please contact me if you are interested in helping, or if you have questions about the A&S for the event. Yours In Service, Lady Leofwynne le glasyer From SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com Sun Apr 17 00:26:46 2005 From: SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com (SiegfriedMcClure at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:26:46 EDT Subject: [MR] Defending the Gate 4 Registrations Message-ID: <92.25177144.2f9369b6@aol.com> Please pardon the interruption. Could the following gentles please contact me regarding Defending the Gate 4? Joe or Rebecca Hines Sarah Peterson Eleanor Smith Chris Staunton Many thanks and In Service, Siegfried McClure Reservationist for Defending the Gate IV and Exchequer for the Canton of Sudentorre _siegfriedmcclure at aol.com_ (mailto:siegfriedmcclure at aol.com) mka James Ernst From Jonathas at DunCarraig.net Sun Apr 17 08:12:35 2005 From: Jonathas at DunCarraig.net (Jonathas) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <1113750755.42627ce3b23a1@www.kriebel.cc> Calling all those who enjoy working with wood, I have found a really cheap source of hardwood. There is a really nice old man who runs a saw mill on his farm, I think more for something to do than to make a living. I've bought several pieces of oak, white and red, from him. The wood is not the absolutly flawless stuff you find at Lowes/Home Depot/other commercial lumberyards. But depending on what you are using it for the price may convince you that it is good enough. Oak is $1 per board foot for 8" to 12" wide, and he'll cut the thickness you want. Plained or unplained is the same cost. Cherry is $2 per board foot for the same range. I just bought a 2"x12"x12' for $24 the hardwood store in Fredrick wanted $144 for the same piece. The trick is that he does not have a "stock" or "inventory" he saws the logs he gets, but will sorta take orders. That is if you tell him what you are looking for, he'll call you when he finds a piece. Currently he has a 1x10, 1x12, 2x8, 2x10 red oak freshly cut (yesterday morning). This is a really clean piece of oak (sorry I already bought the 2x12's from it). He also has a piece of cherry 1x8, 2x8, 3x8, 4x8 all 8' long. If anyone is interested please drop me an email. For those coming to Dun Carraig's Challenge of the Heart, he is a couple miles from the site. Jonathas From Sigrune at aol.com Sun Apr 17 09:15:55 2005 From: Sigrune at aol.com (Sigrune at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Subject: [MR] Found a cheap Hardwood source Message-ID: <79CF71BD.5AFD189A.001A0CC1@aol.com> While not quite as inexpensive, there is another source people may be interested in: Northland Forest Products 9300 Litho Lane Manassas, VA 20110 T: (703) 393-7500 F: (703) 393-7330 http://www.northlandforest.com/index.php They have a good selection of various woods in many different sizes and cut types. I highly reccomend them. An exmaple of pricing (and milage may vary with selection of wood and grade) a 8 inch, by 2.25 inch piece of quarter sawn ash 10 foot long (and change) ran me $14 with tax. That is a bit better price wise than a Home Depot 2x8 by 8 foot in crap pine. If you have the ability to re-saw, it is an excellent opportinuty for people who make various period projects, one can consider abandoning plywood for most applications, and maybe even save money being more period. -Takeda Sanjuichiro From baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 07:03:35 2005 From: baronesskisaiya at yahoo.com (Dawn Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Newcomers Event in Crois Brigte in Sacred Stone Message-ID: <20050418140335.41927.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Gentles of the Known world! The Canton of Crois Brigte heartily welcomes you to a Newcomer's Event, this Saturday, April the 23rd in Winston-Salem, NC. Bring your neighbors, your friends, and some strangers off the street. All are welcome as we gather with friends from near and far to demonstrate some of our SCAdian talents. For the Arts and Sciences' minded we will have demos, displays, and hands-on opportunities including embroidery, leatherworking, weaving, kumihimo, illumination and costumes. Service minded guests are welcome to participate in our feast prep lab, heraldry consultation, and bardic arts. Last but not least we will have fighters and marshals to help demonstrate the athletic side of our SCA interests. No reservations are needed. The event begins at 10:00 and ends at 4:00. The cost is $3 for SCA members and $5 for non-members. Children under 5 are guests of the canton. Lunch is provided. If our fare does not tempt you, there are also fast food restaurants nearby. If you have any questions, please contact the Autocrat: Annora Hall (Kathy Murphy) at kcmurphy at bellsouth.net or by telephone at 336-784-8008 after 6:00 pm. The site address is St. Timothy's Episcopal Church, 2575 Parkway Rd, Winston-Salem, NC. Directions: Take your best route to Winston-Salem, get on Business 40. Take Exit 3A, Knollwood St. From the west: Turn left at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) From the east: Turn right at the light at the end of the exit ramp. (Follow directions below.) Continue straight until you cross Stratford Road and the railroad tracks. Proceed 4 more blocks on Knollwood to Parkway Drive. Turn left. Proceed straight at the stop sign. Parking is to the left or right of the church. Signs will direct you to Troll. We hope to see you there! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From Shalandara at aol.com Mon Apr 18 12:51:05 2005 From: Shalandara at aol.com (Shalandara at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:51:05 EDT Subject: [MR] Forwarded on behalf of His Excellency of Stierbach Message-ID: <1a6.362f7b78.2f9569a9@aol.com> The following message is forwarded from Baron Colum (who has tried posting this for over a week and has had little success): Sudentur - The little canton that could, put on quite an event and for those who couldn't make it the punishment for not attending Defending the Gate is to not have attended Defending the Gate last weekend. Her Majesty brightened the day for everyone she met. (and that was most everybody.) Field Events: For the Heavy fighters. - We had twenty-seven fighters going at in in multiple scenarios including combat archery. For the Rapier fighters - How about twenty people to cross swords with For the Archers. - This little event had fifty archers flinging arrows into and out of castle wall archer slits. Lastly if throwing things is what you like than you could have tossed knives and axes with sixteen others. Weather: Picture the perfect weather day and you can imagine Defending the Gate's weather. Food: I was stopped by several people to compliment me on the lunch menu. For dinner the hot food was hot, the cold food was cold, and everything was delicious, timely and in sufficient quantity. I can sum up the event with a short note of praise: Vivant! In service to the Barony of Stierbach and their Majesties Baron Colum Maxwell From justus1199 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 14:34:52 2005 From: justus1199 at yahoo.com (Justus Koshiol) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Congratulations Elishabeth! Message-ID: <20050418213452.2049.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My Lady, Elishabeth of Calontir, was awarded her Doctorate of Philosophy today for her studies and research in the field of Epidemiology. (The science of how a disease, or a condition such as poverty, effects a population) This is the culmination of ten years of hard work, many long nights of study, quite a few tears, and the unyielding determination of a very special young woman. My heart overflows with pride in my Lady, and I wanted to share her accomplishment with all of you. If you wish to send her a personal note, her E-mail addresess is: elishabeth22 at yahoo.com Thank you very much for your time. Lord Justus fils de Ternon Royal Bard of Atlantia From seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 17:43:16 2005 From: seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com (Sean Robinson) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Office of DEMRapier Message-ID: <20050419004317.78728.qmail@web41724.mail.yahoo.com> Good friends, My time has come to hand over the office of Deputy Earl Marshal, Rapier (i.e. Kingdom Rapier Marshal). I will be accepting nominations, whether yourself or someone who you believe will fulfill the office, until May 22nd. After careful thought and council with Jarl Timoch and TRM, the individual who will take over the office will be notified * later that week and the ?official public announcement? will be made at June University during the Rapier Marshal 101 class. Some of the criteria to meet in order to be considered for the office: Prompt and effective communication skills (via phone, email, in person, etc) Knowledge of kingdom and society rules for rapier and ability to enforce said rules Visibility Teaching skills for new marshals Dedication to the office Critical thinking skills Teamwork Organizational skills Even temper Jarl Timoch and TRM approval It has been my utmost pleasure to serve the Kingdom of Atlantia and more specifically her rapier fighters, in the capacity of DEM Rapier. The duelists of Atlantia are some of the most honorable, skilled and dedicated individuals in the Known World. Please email any questions, concerns and nominations to me at seanrobinson11 at yahoo.com Yours, etc. Lord Vyvyan Brousard, DEM of Rapier, Atlantia * by carrier pigeon --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page From tankred1 at nc.rr.com Mon Apr 18 18:52:58 2005 From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com (Tankred Bras-de-Fer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:52:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] [Fwd: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC] Message-ID: <4264647A.7020800@nc.rr.com> Forwarded by request. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: *WH* Lost and Found at ToC Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 From: Linda Goldman Reply-To: Linda Goldman To: keep at windmastershill.org Good gentles, Here is the list of lost and found items at this past weekend's Tournament of Chivalry..polease contact me at ceridwen at rtmc.net to claim an item if its yours.... 1. Men;s XL denim jacket with grey fleece-like lining 2. White bag that had a Petmate Fresh Flow automatic waterer and a Learn to Drop Spindle kit 3. Persian area rug 4. Pottery mug with no handle but a band of decoration around the top 5. Pottery mug with a handle 6. Plastic pitcher 7. 2 small folding knives, shell necklace, silver pendant with blue stone whcih has a price take of $15 on it 8. Leather half gauntlet 9. Blue plastic lantern 10 Wooden mug 11. Blanket- brown, black, and camel plaid 12. Green brocade vest/doublet with velcro closure 13. Red tunic 14. Red black and white plaid tunic 15. green elasticized pants 16. white veil 17. light blue long tunic 18. rattan sword with stainless basket hilt Please forward this to the Merry Rose as well...thanks! Ceridwen -- ---------------------[ Ciphire Signature ]---------------------- From: tankred1 at nc.rr.com signed email body (1034 characters) Date: on 19 April 2005 at 01:53:00 UTC To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- : Ciphire has secured this email against identity theft. : Free download at www.ciphire.com. The garbled lines : below are the sender's verifiable digital signature. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 00fAAAAAEAAAB8ZGRCCgQAABECAAIAAgACACDTimy+85c6Vjo5ZUo4HuEKSzWc2W NO7oM8rdc5weyuCwEA2hxjLDo7h5av5ZL5bRcHcAHld0YoU6Yj59V8SF6RzwwJJH 9RIxIV08Obs2q3mZAqbQpjUBpwlYnoZTUyzQnyuA== ------------------[ End Ciphire Signed Message ]---------------- From suewicker at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 20:51:51 2005 From: suewicker at yahoo.com (Sue Wicker) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Cool News Message-ID: <20050419035151.87633.qmail@web41828.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=630165 Please check out the above link if you are iinterested in classical literature. Ysar Love, Trust, Honor, all else in life pales. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From knightfall at earthlink.net Mon Apr 18 21:11:46 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:11:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus From troenwolf at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 05:03:10 2005 From: troenwolf at hotmail.com (Aimee Kratts) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:03:10 -0500 Subject: [MR] ISO millinery wire Message-ID: Does anyone know a good source for millinery wire in Northern Virginia? The closest store I can find on the web is in Gaithersburg. Please send me a reply off list. Thanks, Amie From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 06:07:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Royal Court Report for Defending the Gate IV Message-ID: <20050419130741.36908.qmail@web60410.mail.yahoo.com> Unto the Populace of Atlantia, Her Majesty Denise did hold Court at Defending the Gate IV in the Canton of Sudentore upon Saturday April 9th 2005 There were two courts held that day: The first was upon the archery field, where Her Majesty Denise did bestow upon Seamus MacCrae the rank of Bowman Elite, for his skill with the longbow. This ended the first court of the day. The second court, Her Majesty did bestow honors and awards to the following citizens of Atlantia: Ringer Du Chester- Order of the Hippocampus Buba of Wolfhou-Award of Arms Lady Anne Ramsey- Order of the Opal Grace Whyting- Order of the Pearl Blitha of Wolfhou- Order of the Pearl Alan Wolfhou-Order of the Yew Bow. Otel Altunait- Award of Arms Siegfried McClure-Order of the Opal Elizabeth of Hadely Hall ?Order of the Opal Morgaine of Donegal-Order of the Coral Branch. Heralded by Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Tue Apr 19 06:45:54 2005 From: reyne_telarius at hotmail.com (Robyn Becker) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Silent Auction at Spring Crown Tourney Message-ID: Greetings to all! Please feel free to distribute this email to any and all lists that might be interested! Thank you! As you may have heard, there will be a Silent Auction held at Spring Crown Tourney. Run by THL Olwen the Odd and The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias, the proceeds will be divided up between the Royal Travel Fund and the Barony of Bright Hills. I remind you of this auction because we need more donations! We are, of course, most grateful to those who have already donated items to this cause, but more is needed! And remember, your donation is tax deductible! If you are interested in a reciept, please see our Exchequer (Lord Simon d'Este) during the event. If you are interested in donating an item, please contact either myself, or Lady Olwen (olwentheodd at hotmail.com). Donations will be accepted until noon on May 7th, and bidding will close at approximately 4pm that same day. I thank you in advance for your generosity! YIS, Lady Reyne Telarius Guild Mistress The Worshipful Company of St. Matthias Barony of Bright Hills reyne_telarius at hotmail.com Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin segreant argent. From kevinmbrock at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 11:55:09 2005 From: kevinmbrock at earthlink.net (Kevin Brock) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [MR] Fw: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Message-ID: <17693054.1113936910163.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Forwarded by request. Olivier de Bayonne -----Forwarded Message----- From: Aenor d'Anjou Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:41 AM To: keep windmasters Subject: *WH* Paul of Bellatrix visit Poster: "Aenor d'Anjou" Greetings Keepsakes. Thank you one and all for your support of Duke Paul's visit! We were able to fully pay for his plane ticket with your donations! Vivant! He had a very pleasant event and I hope that those who took his classes and got the chance to fight with him gained some good insights. The fighting manual at www.bellatrix.org is there for reminders and help. Duke Paul appreciates commentary on the manual and videos- feel free to email him with such. In Service to Atlantia, I remain Ma???tresse A???nor d'Anjou -- (Kirsten Wienand Vaughan) www.angevintreasures.com House Bellatrix From Teufelskerl001 at aol.com Tue Apr 19 17:03:49 2005 From: Teufelskerl001 at aol.com (Teufelskerl001 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:49 EDT Subject: [MR] Storvik Spear Practice this Friday, April 22nd Message-ID: <12a.5bb1bd58.2f96f665@aol.com> Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From scadiandreas at nc.rr.com Tue Apr 19 19:49:28 2005 From: scadiandreas at nc.rr.com (scadiandreas at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:49:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Vivats to the TOC Waterbearers! :) Message-ID: <1784333177de21.177de211784333@southeast.rr.com> My fellow Atlantians, I wish to publicly thank the Waterbearers that served our fighters and populace so well last weekend at Tournament of Chivalry. Lady Rebecca (Rebecca Gibson) coordinated a group of youth that showed sincere dedication, courtesy and a concern for everyones' well-being. The initiative, creativity and enthusiasm were a sight to behold and an example of the fine ideals we attempt to instill upon our young people. Please join me in expressing gratitude to: Diane Remes, Avery Samouce, Samantha of Foxmore/Samantha Fox, Eleanor of Highlandford/Eleanor Favic and a young man that requested to remain anonymous. YIS, Lord Andreas de Caunteton, CIC From knightfall at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 20:15:01 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Clarification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a quick clarification. There is plenty of tent camping if you wish to bring your own tent. Showers and bathrooms are near the tenting areas. The platform tents are available if anyone wishes, just let us know when you reserve. Thank you Aaron -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Kevin and Lora Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:12 AM To: Merry Rose Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Greetings All, The Tourney of Lyons which celebrates the birthday of the Barony of Hidden Mountain is rapidly approaching (April 29, 30, May 1 in Cordesville, SC). The Cabins are now full. We do have very nice platform tents (permanent tents with cots) still available. There are approximately 25 feast spaces left for this event as well. For more information about this event please check out the website: http://home.earthlink.net/~atomickitten3k/index.html If you have questions or feast considerations please contact me. Thank you Aaron Rebellinus ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net Wed Apr 20 05:31:07 2005 From: MeghanElphinstone at srclink.net (Meghan Elphinstone) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:31:07 -0400 Subject: [MR] Fabric Hut - Big Sale - July 9 Message-ID: <006801c545a4$d36853b0$0d01a8c0@friday> For those Atlantians who live within convenient distance of Norfolk, VA: This year the Big Early Bird Sale at the Fabric Hut will be Saturday, July 9th. 50% OFF everything!!! The Hut opens at 6:00am on Sale Day. Get your hand stamped by 7:00 am to get the sale price anytime during the day. Minimum cuts of one yard. Being in line by 5:00 would probably get you in the door when it opens at 6:00. There is a separate cash line near the door - it is by far the quickest. July 9th is the same day as the Birthday event for Marinus this year. You can come scoop up buys and then attend our local event. Fabric Hut stocks a large selection of items that would be of interest to the re-enactor such as: canvas hair interfacing, trims (low right now), a little tatting lace for late period and cotton batting for padding. Fabrics include silk, muslin, bengaline, ecclesiastical brocades, lots of wool and linen, silk organdy and organza for parlets, and sometimes osnaburg! If you want to avoid blends, be sure and check the end of the bolt for content. I will be glad to take you into the stockroom to look through the rest of the wool before the day of the sale and put any bolts you want with the other wools for sale that day. We cannot get anything from the stockroom on sale day. It's a good idea to schedule via email - shilo at srclink.net - or call first - 757-588-1300 W - to make sure I'm at work. Mundane note: I consider notification of the sale a service; I do not benefit in any manner - other than seeing some friendly faces during a 13 hr work day - I'll be at the cutting table half way back on the left side. :) Shilo Meghan Elphinstone residing in the Barony of Marinus From quotku at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 07:20:01 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Shire of Isenfir Anniversary Party Message-ID: <20050420142001.79339.qmail@web41524.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings, We invite you to join us in celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the Shire of Isenfir. On Sunday, May 15 the Shire will be hosting its unofficial 30th Anniversary Party and Defender of the Innocents Tourney at Camp Albemarle in Charlottesville, VA. The official Anniversary event and Games Tourney III will take place on October 22, 2005. Activities will include practice in heavy weapons, rapier, and target archery, gaming, gambling, Renaissance and Middle Eastern dancing, singing and a potluck feast. For more information, please see http://isenfir.org/mayrevel Quick notes: Beer, wine, and meads are allowed with dinner. No hard alcohol is permitted. Dogs are allowed on leash. YIS, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 10:59:09 2005 From: courtneydehoughton at yahoo.com (Lady Courtney de Houghton) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Reminder: All Things 15th Century Veil Workshop is TONIGHT in Reston, VA Message-ID: <20050420175909.37448.qmail@web53705.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder that the April 20th "All Things 15th Century" night is focused on ladies hair styles and veils. The instructor is Lady Elspet Byndelase from Lochmere, and she will focus on using hair to build a basic foundation and then building out from there. It is recommended that you bring some of your own veils and hair supplies for practice. Class starts at 7:00 E-mail for directions to our house in Reston, VA. YiS, Lady Courtney de Houghton Lady Courtney de Houghton Acting Atlantian Clerk of Law Chronicler, Barony of Ponte Alto Assistant Webminister, Barony of Ponte Alto Kingdom of Atlantia, SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hobbit1 at mac.com Wed Apr 20 11:18:01 2005 From: hobbit1 at mac.com (Bryan Haven) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:01 -0400 Subject: [MR] A call for arms Message-ID: Good day gentles, Let it be know that a call goes out for all those who would fearlessly bare arms for a just and noble cause. A "Day of Life" is being organized on May 18, 2005 at the American Red Cross in Norfolk, VA. This event is being held in the name of Susan Barnes (former Baroness Ysabet of Tir Ysgithr) of Tucson, AZ and by her request for all those suffering from Breast Cancer. For more information please contact me at hobbit1 at mac.com or (757) 515-5047. Thank you for your time. In service, William Davies (Bryan Haven) From connorsinclair at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:05:41 2005 From: connorsinclair at yahoo.com (Connor Sinclair) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Chivalry pictures Message-ID: <20050420220541.90075.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com> Here are some pictures that were taken this past weekend at the Tourney of Chivalry. http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/TOC05/ Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell http://home.armourarchive.org/members/winter/sca.html http://squires.atlantia.sca.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dona_violante at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 15:42:37 2005 From: dona_violante at yahoo.com (Michelle -TJ- King) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] "Passage to Damascus" Article Message-ID: <20050420224238.68986.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those who had asked about it, here is a link to the Damascus Gazette's write up about the "Passage to Damascus" demo this past weekend: http://gazette.net/200516/damascus/news/270621-1.html Cheers, Violante Chatelaine, Shire of Roxbury Mill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From DCADENISE at aol.com Wed Apr 20 18:48:16 2005 From: DCADENISE at aol.com (DCADENISE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:48:16 EDT Subject: [MR] Found leather baronial coronet- ISO of owner Message-ID: <140.42b61d7c.2f986060@aol.com> Greetings to the Tavern; A leather baronial coronet made its way into my basket from TofC this past weekend. If anyone is missing a leather baronial coronet from this past weekend, please contact me off the list. Denise From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 21 09:19:07 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Message-ID: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana From elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 09:21:57 2005 From: elsbethofdrachenfels at yahoo.com (Rebecca Navarro) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Peasant's Revolt Message-ID: <20050421162157.23814.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> From: Sayyida Sahar Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Cathanar] Peasant's Revolt (Please forward) Please note two corrections to the flier: We will be unable to hold Archery. The site fee for Children ages 6 to 17 is $4.00. Please forward this flier to any parties you feel interested. Thank you, Sahar al-Nur Autocrat Name of Event: Peasants' Revolt Date(s) of Event: May 20-22,2005 Hosting Group: Shire of Cathanar Description: In 1381, the peasants of England revolted against their Regent, John of Gaunt, over the issue of excessive taxation. The Revolt was crushed by deceit and broken promises on the part of the young King Richard II. On the third weekend of May, you will have the chance to rewrite history when the Shire of Cathanar holds its own version of a Peasant's Revolt. Last year, as happened historically, the Nobles won. Will they be able to do it again this year, or will the Peasants prevail for a change? Upon registration, each person will be assigned by chance as a Peasant or Noble. By participating in a myriad of activities, both martial and otherwise, you may gain individual points, which will be credited toward your side. At the end of the day, the faction with the most points will be declared the victor. Class-appropriate jests, raillery, and bawdy insults are expected to be delivered on both sides. Planned activities that will earn points: Heavy fighting, rapier fighting,thrown weapons, A&S display and competition, music or other performance arts, service-related activities such as water-bearing, preparing Feast, and serving in various official capacities. Due to lack of Marshal, Archery will not be available.***PLEASE, IF YOU ARE AN ARCHERY MARSHAL, ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND WOULD BE WILLING TO MARSHAL PLEASE CONTACT THE AUTOCRAT, SAHAR AL-NUR*** (This list is not inclusive. Other things may be added to it, at the discretion of the Lord High Scorekeeper.) Website: http://members.cox.net/lindenheim/events.html Martial Activities: Heavy and Rapier fighters. Thrown Weapons. Arts & Sciences Activities: An arts and sciences competition will held. Cost: Adult Member:$8.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast| $4.00 Camping Non-Member:$11.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (6-17):$4.00 Site Fee|$8.00 Feast|$4.00 Camping Child (0-5):$0.00 Site Fee|$0.00 Feast|$0.00 Camping Cost Notes: Site: Neuseway Nature Center and Park, outside Kinston, North Carolina. A lovely and spacious location along the Neuse River, with camping available. (Toilets and cold water, but no showers.) Indoor Nature Center and Feast Hall, plus large outdoor picnic shelter with grills. Other activities at the Nature Center include rock climbing (for a fee) and fishing in 3 stocked ponds. ***Note*** Fishing in the Centers ponds does not require a NC fishing or gaming liscense, if you enjoy fishing and bring your gear, have at it!*** RV's: space for a very limited number at $10 per night. Reserve early if you want to bring an RV. Pets are welcome, but, please keep them leashed. Site Restrictions: PLEASE NOTE: By law, alcohol is not permitted on this site. This rule will be strictly enforced! Feast Information: Feast: We are limited to 60 people on-board, so get your reservations in early. There is a large sized pavilion with ample outdoor seating for those who wish to prepare their own feast. If demand is great enough, we will plan for a separate outdoor meal to be available also. Checks should be made out to The Shire of Cathanar, SCA, Inc. Lunch will be available for an additional fee for those that wish to purchase it the day of the event. It will be provided by our gracious friends of The Ship Lejeune. Please note with your reservations if you wish to partake of the lunch, that way, the folks of The Ship will know how much loot to appropriate for our guests. A meal: 2 bbq meat sticks, corn, fruit and drink $4.00 individual/additional items are $1 ea Lanced Cow Speared Pig Skewered Fowl Roasted Ears(corn) Fruit Tea/Lemomade Merchanting Information: Merchants are welcome at no additional fee. Please contact the Autocrat. Other Information: Autocrats Information: Lady Sahar al-Nur(Dorrane Bernard), 1475 B Street New Bern NC, 28560. Phone Number(252)637-9659, E-mail: dorrane.bernard at c... or saharbintdurr at y... Resevations: Lady Elsbeth Magdalena Drachenfels(Rebecca Navarro), 132 Bayberry Rd, Newport NC, 28570 Phone Number(252)223-3152, E-mail: elsbethofdrachenfels at y... Directions: Make your best way to Kinston, North Carolina via US70. The Neuseway Nature Center is off Hwy 11/55 beside the King Street Bridge at 401 W. Caswell Street Kinston, NC 28501 Signs will be posted from 70 to the site. Sayyida Sahar al-Nur, OW (Dorrane Bernard) MOAS- Cathanar Kingdom of Atlantia Drumsound rises on the air, its throb, my heart. A voice inside the beat says, "I know you're tired, but come. This is the way."--Rumi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Thu Apr 21 13:17:28 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:17:28 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <380f9a7905042113177a2da4a1@mail.gmail.com> Is this legit? Will we be reading about it in the next acorn? On 4/21/05, Jacob Thomas wrote: > > > You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the > files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ > > Here they are though... > > From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude > Kensington > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM > > Greetings, > > Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an > authorized > activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. > Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. > > Go forth and play... > > Isolde > > ============================================================ > ================ > > Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA > > 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. > Only the kingdom > equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by > the kingdom > officer for this activity may approve riders to > participate in this > activity. > > 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be > maintained at all > times. All activities must be stopped at the first > indication of an unsafe > situation. > > 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a > shield is used the > rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. > > 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but > must be couched > loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of > the lance except > the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away > from the opposing > rider. > > 5. Equipment: > a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal > authorized in this > activity prior to each use for jousting. > b. Lances: > 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. > 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections > including the tip, > middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket > into the middle > section. > 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches > and a recommended > maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam > (Styrofoam) or > Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 > lb. density, > projecting beyond the middle section. > 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube > with a 2 inch > interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch > sidewall. The cardboard > tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. > 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle > material. The maximum > length of the base section is 45 inches, including > a recommended 6 > inches extending into the middle section. The grip > for the base > section should be located so that there is a > maximum of 96 inches > from the center of the grip to front of the lance. > It is recommended > the base section be carved from wood. > c. Armor: > 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge > mild or > equivalent). There can be no openings that allow > the penetration of a > 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient > strapping and/or padding > to prevent the rigid material from contacting the > rider and so as not > to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate > frontal impact. > 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. > 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. > Standard equestrian > riding vests are deemed equivalent. > 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient > means including > saddle or armor. > 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, > gauntlet, or > equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). > 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor > recommended, but not > required. > d. Shields: > 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, > non-brittle, materials. > Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be > blunt and corners > rounded. > 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches > of surface area to > present a reasonable minimum target area to the > opponent. > 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the > rider has control > of his or her equipment and mount at all times. > > 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment > so that horses will > not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should > be constructed so > that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or > rider contacting > it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between > 48 and 60 inches. > The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The > barrier must be set > in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. > > 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse > will make practice > passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable > with the activity > on that day. > > 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or > advanced riders. > Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals > specifically authorized in > this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian > officer to > authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in > this activity. > Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment > and their mount > during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize > on the mount that > they intend to use for this activity. > > 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must > be present for > jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground > crew appropriate > to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should > include ground > attendants to help with the scoring. > > 10. Conduct: > a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or > her equipment prior > to commencing a match. The marshal of the field > should also check the > equipment and the field conditions. > b. Riders should have two lances available in order to > be able to place > one at each end of the list. > c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to > quickly prepare for > each pass and to assist with the removal of broken > tips. > d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following > conventions: Check > to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to > commencing down > the lane; present a good target to your opponent by > presenting a > nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for > the shield and try > to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared > to raise your > lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to > be having > difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. > Remember only a light > amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, > therefore riders > must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will > not be tolerated. > c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or > her horse or > equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the > list, the marshal > should suspend further passes until the situation is > addressed. > Remember safety is the first priority in this > activity. > f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed > to their end of > the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both > riders have > signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the > commencement of > the pass. > > 11. Scoring: > The following are scoring suggestions, methods of > scoring the jousts will > be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the > designated EqMIC. > a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for > each pass is > determined and the best two out of three passes > decides the match. In > the event of a tie after three passes successive > passes may be taken > until the tie is broken. > b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be > determined according > to the following scoring with the better result > winning the pass. If > both participants have identical results, the pass > will be considered a > tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their > lance tips, the > rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle > section shall win > the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be > consulted as to the > result of a pass. > 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple > pieces. > 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single > piece. > 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if > jousting without > shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to > break. > 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent > (if jousting > without shields) or the opponent's shield. > c. Additional scoring options for jousting without > shields may include > scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. > > 12. Glossary: > 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact > distribution, and > impact absorption abilities of whatever material is > specified. > 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used > when referring to > the thickness of sheet metals. > 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the > neck. A Gorget usually > takes the form of a high collar with a front and back > flap, constructed > with rigid materials and padding. > 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): > a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge > b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge > c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge > d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give > similar rigidity to > those listed above. > e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or > polyethylene of > sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to > those metals listed > above. > f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, > boiled, soaked in > polyester resin, or treated with some other > material that provides a > similar stiffening effect. > g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl > Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > > > Did some items get deleted? > > > > Svana > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- Joshua Thomas (H) 757 683 7849 joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com members.cox.net/joshua.thomas --- The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. --Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ******************************************************************************************** Response Policy: All email that requests a response will be responded to in 48 hours. If you haven't received a response by then please resend. From eogan at nc.rr.com Thu Apr 21 13:44:32 2005 From: eogan at nc.rr.com (eogan) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:44:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Court report from ToC Message-ID: <001901c546b2$ec5fc6f0$6501a8c0@DDHWPG61> Greetings unto Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise, Mistress Mordeyrn Tremayne, and the populace of Atlantia, from your humble servant, Lord E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Herald, On this Saturday past, the 16 day of April in the year of our Society 39 the Tournament of Chivalry was held. Their Royal Majesties, Robert and Denise held a court and it proceeded thus; After greeting the populace, Nikolia of Icehouse received a Sea Urchin for the selfless work he had done, Lady Anne of Greenwood received a Coral Branch. Their Excellencies of Windmasters' Hill opened a short court and swore fealty to the Crowns of Atlantia; That being done Their August Majesties continued with their court; Baron Wystan Roland Sachaverell was made a member of the Order of Golden Dolphin, Lady Freya of Bergen was given an Award of Arms, Lord Conall McCloud was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lord Egil Gulbjorn was made a member of the Order of the Kraken, Lady Rhiannon of Berra was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, Lord Declan MacDockery was made a member of the Order of the Pearl, and Lord Magnus Tindal was given a King's Award of Excellence and an Augmentation of Arms As I witness this noble work, so it was done. In service to the Crown and College, E?gan mac Ailpein, Triton Principal Herald 919-753-6822 eogan at nc.rr.com From lordgaelan at aol.com Thu Apr 21 15:33:05 2005 From: lordgaelan at aol.com (lordgaelan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:33:05 -0400 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 In-Reply-To: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> Message-ID: <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain access to the file? -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Thomas To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Sent: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:19:07 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 You will find the Newly Approved SCA_Joust_Rules_2005 in the files... Thank You Kerije!!! :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Jousting/files/ Here they are though... From: owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org on behalf of Jude Kensington Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 8:14 PM Greetings, Here are the jousting rules. As of now, consider it an authorized activity. Thanks to everyone who tried and suggested. Thanks to Alexis for writing everything down. Go forth and play... Isolde ============================================================ ================ Jousting Rules for jousting in the SCA 1. Limits: This activity requires a special authorization. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized by the kingdom officer for this activity may approve riders to participate in this activity. 2. Safety: Safety for both the rider and the mount must be maintained at all times. All activities must be stopped at the first indication of an unsafe situation. 3. This activity may be done with or without a shield. If a shield is used the rider must be authorized to ride with accoutrements. 4. The lances may not be couched rigidly under the arm but must be couched loosely so that in the event of contact (with any part of the lance except the foam) will allow for the lance to swing back and away from the opposing rider. 5. Equipment: a. All lances and armor must be inspected by a marshal authorized in this activity prior to each use for jousting. b. Lances: 1. Total lance length shall be 10 ft. 2. The lance shall be constructed in three sections including the tip, middle, and base. The tip and the base will socket into the middle section. 3. Lances must have a tip of a minimum of 24 inches and a recommended maximum of 48 inches of expanded polystyrene foam (Styrofoam) or Extruded Insulation Foam of 2 inch diameter and 2 lb. density, projecting beyond the middle section. 4. The middle section consists of a cardboard tube with a 2 inch interior diameter and a maximum of a 1/8 inch sidewall. The cardboard tube must be cleared of broken foam after each run. 5. The base section may be made of any non-brittle material. The maximum length of the base section is 45 inches, including a recommended 6 inches extending into the middle section. The grip for the base section should be located so that there is a maximum of 96 inches from the center of the grip to front of the lance. It is recommended the base section be carved from wood. c. Armor: 1. Helm - Helms must be of rigid materials (18 gauge mild or equivalent). There can be no openings that allow the penetration of a 1? -inch dowel. Helms must have sufficient strapping and/or padding to prevent the rigid material from contacting the rider and so as not to be readily dislodged when subject to a moderate frontal impact. 2. Gorget - according to heavy weapons standards. 3. Body - rigid material covering chest and torso. Standard equestrian riding vests are deemed equivalent. 4. Groin - groin area must be protected by sufficient means including saddle or armor. 5. Hands - hand must be protected either by shield, gauntlet, or equivalent (i.e. vamplate on lance). 6. Leg, arm, and shoulder protection - armor recommended, but not required. d. Shields: 1. The shields must be constructed of rigid, non-brittle, materials. Recommended is ?" plywood. The edges should be blunt and corners rounded. 2. The shield should have at least 300 square inches of surface area to present a reasonable minimum target area to the opponent. 3. Shields must be strapped in such a manner that the rider has control of his or her equipment and mount at all times. 6. Barrier: The barrier should present a visual impediment so that horses will not willingly encounter the barrier. The barrier should be constructed so that it will collapse easily in the event of a horse or rider contacting it. Recommended height of the barrier should be between 48 and 60 inches. The barrier shall be a minimum length of 100 feet. The barrier must be set in such a way that there are no spectators at either end. 7. At each event that jousting will take place, each horse will make practice passes down the list to ensure that they are comfortable with the activity on that day. 8. Authorization: This is limited to intermediate or advanced riders. Only the kingdom equestrian officer or marshals specifically authorized in this activity and designated by their kingdom equestrian officer to authorize riders may authorize riders to participate in this activity. Riders must demonstrate control over both their equipment and their mount during authorization. Intermediate riders must authorize on the mount that they intend to use for this activity. 9. Marshaling: A marshal designated for this activity must be present for jousting to take place. This marshal shall arrange ground crew appropriate to the circumstances. It is recommended that this should include ground attendants to help with the scoring. 10. Conduct: a. Each rider shall be responsible for checking his or her equipment prior to commencing a match. The marshal of the field should also check the equipment and the field conditions. b. Riders should have two lances available in order to be able to place one at each end of the list. c. Riders should arrange for suitable assistance to quickly prepare for each pass and to assist with the removal of broken tips. d. Proper conduct for the tilt includes the following conventions: Check to make sure the opponent is prepared prior to commencing down the lane; present a good target to your opponent by presenting a nearly flat shield face throughout the pass; aim for the shield and try to avoid contact with your opponent and be prepared to raise your lance and avoid contact if your opponent appears to be having difficulty controlling their horse or equipment. Remember only a light amount of force is required to shatter the foam tips, therefore riders must seek to minimize impact. Excessive force will not be tolerated. c. If a rider is having difficulty controlling his or her horse or equipment, or does not follow the conventions of the list, the marshal should suspend further passes until the situation is addressed. Remember safety is the first priority in this activity. f. Once the match is announced each rider should proceed to their end of the tilting lane and prepare for the pass. Once both riders have signaled their readiness the marshal shall signal the commencement of the pass. 11. Scoring: The following are scoring suggestions, methods of scoring the jousts will be left up to the Kingdom Equestrian Officer or the designated EqMIC. a. A match may consist of three passes. A winner for each pass is determined and the best two out of three passes decides the match. In the event of a tie after three passes successive passes may be taken until the tie is broken. b. Standard scoring: The winner for each pass may be determined according to the following scoring with the better result winning the pass. If both participants have identical results, the pass will be considered a tie. If both riders break, but do not shatter their lance tips, the rider that breaks his or her tip closer to the middle section shall win the pass. To promote chivalry both riders should be consulted as to the result of a pass. 1. Best result: Lance tip shattered into multiple pieces. 2. Second best result: Lance tip broken as a single piece. 3. Third best result: Lance tip contacts opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield, but fails to break. 4. Fourth best result: Lance tip misses the opponent (if jousting without shields) or the opponent's shield. c. Additional scoring options for jousting without shields may include scoring hits as in heavy weapons fighting. 12. Glossary: 1. Equivalent: Refers to the impact resistance, impact distribution, and impact absorption abilities of whatever material is specified. 2. Gauge: The U.S. standard scale of measurement used when referring to the thickness of sheet metals. 3. Gorget: A piece of armor designed to protect the neck. A Gorget usually takes the form of a high collar with a front and back flap, constructed with rigid materials and padding. 4. Rigid Materials (includes the following): a. Mild steel of not less than 18 gauge b. Aluminum of not less than 16 gauge c. Stainless Steel of not less than 20 gauge d. Other metals of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above. e. High impact resistant plastic such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those metals listed above. f. Heavy leather that has been hardened in hot wax, boiled, soaked in polyester resin, or treated with some other material that provides a similar stiffening effect. g. Other materials approved by the Crown and the Earl Marshal on a case- by-case basis. > Did some items get deleted? > > Svana ======================================================================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From sheltons at sysmatrix.net Thu Apr 21 16:23:59 2005 From: sheltons at sysmatrix.net (The Sheltons) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: [MR] Crown List of TRM Robert and Denise Message-ID: <006801c546c9$3d62c0a0$84315804@S0029280591> Greetings to All, Now that the deadline for submission of letters of intent is passed, Their Gracious Majesties, King Robert and Queen Denise, have asked that I publish the list of Crown participants. Thus we may all respond with heartfelt best wishes for such a glorious contest. Lord Jonathan Blackbow for Lady Maeve Griffinsward Lord Karl Haraldsson for Samara Caitlyn of Elfwyne Sir Sinclair Hawkins for Baroness Kari Kyst Sir Tascius Severus Fabius for Lady Livia of Ravenswode Lord Jonah MacCoghlan for Lady Branwen Bach Sir Thomas of Calais for Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc Lord Meuric Or'glyn for Lady Cassandra Arabella Giordani Lady Maria-Therese de Normand for Seamus O Maoil Rianin Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs for Countess Rachel Wallace Lord Connor Sinclair de Winterfell for Lady Courtney de Houghton Bohemond Guiscard for Baroness Ysar de la Nuit Blanche Lord Bryan of Sacred Stone for Lady Brianna O Duinn Baron Turgis Hakonson for Baroness Sunniva Kyrre Lord Declan MacDockery for Baroness Isabelle Idonea de la Mare Lord Conall Macleod for Lady Nann of Hunterstone Lord Christian Thomas of York for Lady Isabella Cortez Master Kevin of Thornbury for Mistress Giuliana Salviati Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd for Baroness Julia Windsor Lord Egil Gulbjorn for Lady Ulivetta Lord Stefan von Kiel for Lady Isabella Candeloro Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori for Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh Lord Mungoe McKlinchey for Lady Siobhan McKlinchey Baron Achbar ibn Ali for Asszony Bessenyei Rozsa Lord Luther Josephus for Lady Segna MacBeithian Sir Godfried of Fresia for Baroness Brighid ni Siridean Baron Jonathas Reinisch for Baroness Amalia Kunne Lord Feilan Skotr for Dame Alianora Munro Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa for Ekatrina Filippiia Count Valharic Aurelius for Duchess Arielle the Golden Lord James Griffin for Lady Kim of Wolfshaven Lord William le Younger for Lady Cicilia Tironi In service, Dame Anne le Coeur From syrrichard at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 18:52:16 2005 From: syrrichard at yahoo.com (Richard Mowbray) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Once More the Heralds Proclaim... Message-ID: <20050422015217.44757.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Hear Ye Oh Great Barons and Baronesses of Atlantia! Pay heed oh noble Knights and Squires! Lend your ears to these words all ye valiant Men-at-Arms! Attend all ye artisans and bards! Hear this the Challenge of the Baron and Baroness of Dun Carraig! Gather yourselves in teams of three and come forth to the Barony of Dun Carraig for the Grande Tournament of the Challenge of the Heart- Normandie 1390! The courses of the day shall all be held as contests of three-man teams for the prizes of- Most Valiant team Grandest Heraldic Display Most Courteous to Their Consort Greatest Champion of the Day a Marshal's Prize and the tokens of our Ladies' Gallery Each Victor to be awarded a fine Dagger and Sheath to display their triumph! Each team to receive a banner painted to reflect your team's name (must be pre-registered!). Prizes shall also be given to those who come to entertain our assemblage! A Bardic contest will be held All Day and into the Evening with a multitude of prizes and tokens to be won. There shall be held a working exhibition of the Arts and Sciences of the Knowne World with artisans invited to come and produce before the people their most exquisite arts! After a most sumptuous feast prepared by our own fabulous chef, Laird Muirghen, the evening will be filled with dancing and courtly games! Let all the Champions, Warriors, Artisans, and Bards come to the Barony of Dun Carraig on the weekend of June 25th and compete for your Lady, your Baronage, and the Honors of the Day! Let this be the Gauntlet cast at your feet! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From enequy at adelphia.net Thu Apr 21 19:51:51 2005 From: enequy at adelphia.net (Enequy) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:51 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address Message-ID: I just got my second notice that someone trying to get in touch with me could not. So I am sending out notice on my new email address. teatimemates at earthlink.net is a dead address enequy at adelphia.net is the address in which to contact Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra an alternate address is through herald at stierbach.org Thanks Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria Honor, Valor, Knowledge, and Service Per chevron Or and purpure, two wooden bows drawn and nocked, arrow points to center, proper, the arrows flighted vert, and a ram statant to sinister guardant argent From patdellapiana at yahoo.com Fri Apr 22 07:53:36 2005 From: patdellapiana at yahoo.com (Pat della Piana) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Horse Plans for Lyons Message-ID: <20050422145336.10534.qmail@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Gentle Cousins, Just a little reminder that the cut-off date for Cavalry reservations is quickly approaching. Please remember that each person who plans to ride must make a reservation in advance so that the Marshal of the Horse knows who to expect and what sort of plans to make ahead of time to make sure that everyone has a good time. Email reservations are fine, if you are planning on bringing a horse, but there is a cap this year on the number of horses that we may have on site. Whether you are bringing a horse or wanting to rent, please be reminded that the cut-off date for reservations is April 26th. Only Money Orders are accepted for the rental of horses! NOTE: the money orders MUST be made out to the wrangler... not the local group or the Marshal of the Horse. Please write or call to find out which rental horses are still available and who the wrangler is for that particular horse. Your Servant, Baroness Beatrice von Staufen There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors, and no slave who has not had a king among his. -Helen Keller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 22 12:13:20 2005 From: jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net (Jacob Thomas) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:13:20 -0700 Subject: [MR] Official SCA_Joust_rules_2005 Text Attachment References: <003501c5468d$d8240720$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> <8C714D9384D2061-C8C-1EB5F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008801c5476f$58b00600$6101a8c0@launchmodem.com> > For those of us not on the SCA-jousting e-group, how do we gain > access to the file? There's a formatted version for you. :-) A.E.Vespers P.S. Will anyone whom has attempted to contact me through here prior to now, please contact me offlist at jacob_thomas at bellsouth.net begin 666 SCA-Jousting-Rules.txt M#0I&2XN+ at T*#0I)2!A<'!R M;W9E(')I9&5R2!B92!D;VYE('=I=&@@;W(@=VET:&]U M="!A('-H:65L9"X at 268@82!S:&EE;&0@:7,@=7-E9"!T:&4@#0H@("!R:61E M2!S;R!T:&%T(&EN('1H92!E=F5N="!O9B!C;VYT86-T("AW:71H(&%N M>2!P87)T(&]F('1H92!L86YC92!E>&-E<'0@#0H@("!T:&4 at 9F]A;2D@=VEL M;"!A;&QO=R!F;W(@=&AE(&QA;F-E('1O('-W:6YG(&)A8VL at 86YD(&%W87D@ M9G)O;2!T:&4@;W!P;W-I;F<@#0H@("!R:61E2!P7-T M>7)E;F4 at 9F]A;2 H4W1Y6]N9"!T M:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN#0H@(" @(" T+B!4:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I M;VX at 8V]N'1E;F1I;F<@:6YT;R!T:&4@;6ED9&QE('-E8W1I;VXN(%1H92!G M&EM=6T@;V8 at .38@:6YC M:&5S#0H@(" @(" @("!F2!W96%P;VYS('-T86YD87)D M2!S:&EE;&0L(&=A=6YT;&5T+"!O7=O;V0N(%1H92!E9&=E M2!E;F-O=6YT97(@=&AE M(&)A2!A2!F M;&%T('-H:65L9"!F86-E('1H2!C;VYTF4@:6UP86-T M+B!%>&-E2!C;VYS:7-T(&]F('1H2!B92!D971E2!W96%P;VYS(&9I9VAT:6YG+ at T*#0HQ,BX at 1VQO6QE;F4@;V8-"B @(" @ M(" @("!S=69F:6-I96YT('1H:6-K;F5S"P at 8F]I;&5D+"!S;V%K960@:6X@( T*(" @(" @ M(" @('!O;'EE As I feared, it looks as if there is a nasty storm headed for the DC area. Along with the wet conditions that are already present, I feel it would be too unpleasant to hold Spear Practice tonight. Should anyone show up, I will hold a Spear Making Class instead, but Spear Practice itself will be put off until next week. Same Spear Time, Same Spear Place! Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik *** Please forward to any who you'd feel would be interested. This is a reminder that this Friday, April 22nd, there will be the inaugural Storvik Weekly Spear Practice - SHOULD WEATHER ALLOW. If it's raining/hailing/snowing/tornado or other inhospitable weather condition, the practice will be delay until the following Friday. The weekly spear class will cover the use of the spear, beginning with the basics and continuing through advanced team techniques, focusing on melee combat. Note that this isn't a Fighter Practice but a Martial Arts class; if you've taken any martial arts before you will be familiar with the class structure. Class will begin promptly at 6 p.m., with warm-ups followed by basics including footwork and use of the spear both right and left handed (you WILL be able to use a spear with either hand by the end of the classes), leading to advanced techniques of two or more spears working as a team. Spear Class, Fridays, 6 p.m. to approximately 8 p.m.; Bring armour and spear if you have them, but the are not necessary to take the class. This class is open to ALL who wish to attend, but is VERY beginner friendly. Class takes place @ 9006 Simpson Lane, Clinton, MD. Take your best route to I-495 around DC. Take exit 7A (Route 5 South) to Waldorf. After 5 miles, take the Woodyard Road exit, staying to the left on the exit ramp, so that you turn left on to Woodyard. At the first light, turn right onto Simpson Lane. Simpson Lane will curve back the way you came, then veer to the left; follow it around the curve approximately a quarter of a mile. 9006 is on the left, white 2 story Cape Cod with a screened front porch. The driveway can hold 8 cars if everyone is very friendly, but if that is filled, there is an empty field that people may park in that is back a little way and across the road. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Please note that this class WILL begin promptly at 6 p.m., if you aren't there, the class will begin without you and you will have to catch up. YIS, Lord Frederich Von Teufel Captain of Spear, Storvik From ariley2 at nc.rr.com Fri Apr 22 16:43:17 2005 From: ariley2 at nc.rr.com (April Riley) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Subject: [MR] need help for "Mile of Hope" Message-ID: <200504222343.j3MNhMLv016033@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Greetings, I know that this is late notice.. And, I know that this is a lot to ask... but.. We are in need of strolling minstrels and heavy fighters for this event. I guess I should explain what the Mile of Hope is. It is a 3-day event put on by the Optimist Club for children with cancer from Duke Hospital. They have been putting this on for 17 years and every year is has a different theme, this year it is the middle ages. What they have asked of us is some help with the "show". This is not a demo; they only need us on Sat. May 7th. Therefore, if you can help us out email or call me, my information is below. Thank you in advance. Luisa and Steafan O'Reilly (919) 639-4531 home after 7:00pm (910) 658-6507 Steafan (910) 658-6435 Luisa ariley2 at nc.rr.com From barjavel at earthlink.net Fri Apr 22 18:18:14 2005 From: barjavel at earthlink.net (Sarah Toich) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:18:14 -0400 Subject: [MR] Forwarded for the Head Cook of ToC Message-ID: Hello, my name is Lord William McFadzean. I recently was the Head Teen cook at the Tournament of Chivalry, and I would like to thank all of the people who helped and contributed to the feast. First I would like to thank Master Oshi for sponsoring me, who helped me continuously and taught me some of the basis of how to run a kitchen, and prepare a feast. I would like to thank Master Robear De Bardolf, for bringing his grill and saving my bottom. He helped get me to start thinking of what I wanted to do and helped to keep me calm. I would like to thank Grafin Judith, for helping me and providing stylish clothing for the food. Thanks to Lady Sine for organizing the servers and setting high table. And I would particularly like to thank Lady Sorcha- who spent the entire day washing dishes- and Megan, who helped with almost everything that needed to be done. I would also like to thank: Thorgrimr, Adeliza, Beatrice, Freya, and everyone else who helped in the kitchen or served. Thank you all. I could not have done this, my first feast, without you. Sincerely, William From cbt at ib-ent.com Sat Apr 23 08:35:43 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:35:43 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Message-ID: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From jeanne at atasteofcreole.com Sat Apr 23 10:44:46 2005 From: jeanne at atasteofcreole.com (Jeanne) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:44:46 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: <0da201c5482c$24319fc0$6601a8c0@atoc> But that is also fiberglass type. I've used it on those cheapo lawn chairs with great success. Soffya -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming ======================== The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subscriptions: http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia From knightfall at earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 15:39:41 2005 From: knightfall at earthlink.net (Kevin and Lora) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <000601c5481a$2025b9a0$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> Message-ID: Greetings Lord Charles, I work in a craft store and a major part of my job responsibilities is product knowledge. The Krylon Fusion spray does indeed work well within certain limitations. It will not work well on a treated surface (like a tarp treated for weather.) For any plastics you would need to properly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol or a 50/50 white vinegar and water mix. This removes the oils or residues from the manufacturer or handling. Slightly abrading the surface with very fine steel wool may also help but you must be careful not to scratch the surface deeply. Krylon spray works best on solid plastic. Flexible plastic such as tarps would have trouble with the paint flaking at the crease areas. Small stencil designs would probably work on flat tarp that is not going to be rolled or folded. Large coverage areas are not likely to work. Coolers, patio chairs and the like are what this paint is primarily used for with success. In Service, Lady Tegan de Moreton -----Original Message----- From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of C. Brian Towey Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:36 AM To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: [MR] Review: Krylon Fusion Paint Friends and neighbors, With great hopes, I bought a can of Krylon Fusion spray paint. "Bonds To Plastic," it says, right on the label. I had hopes of spiffing up my modern dining fly and other canopies made of the ubiquitous woven polyethylene tarp material. A stencil here, a motto there, and things might have looked more presentable. I am sad to report that the stuff doesn't stick. Even after curing for a week, any slight abrasion rubs it off, and rolling up the canopy causes most of the paint to crumble to dust and fall off. In case any of you were planning to try something similar, save yourself a few bucks and don't bother. So far, the only thing I have found that sticks to poly tarps is 100 mph tape I bought from a race shop, and even that eventually peels off, leaving a sticky residue. Your servant. Lord Charles Fleming From scawindsor1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 17:59:38 2005 From: scawindsor1 at yahoo.com (Julia Windsor) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] ISO Message-ID: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Would Nikolia of Icehouse or a represtentative please contact me offlist? Thank you, Julia Baroness Julia Windsor - Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure GoA, Order of the Kittyhawk, Order of the Boreas Pursuivant At-Large From janinwise at postmark.net Sat Apr 23 19:30:32 2005 From: janinwise at postmark.net (Janin Wise) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] Waterford Demo Thanks References: <20050424005938.72433.qmail@web54507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c54875$994dbf70$6501a8c0@duron> I just wanted to say thank you and vivats to Ragnar Rib Cracker, Ailenora de Bath, Reinmar the Alchemist, Llewellen, Sherry and my husband Mark for making the demo a such a success! The kids had a great time, and we couldn't have done it without you! Thanks, Janin Wise From lands_heinie at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 08:30:42 2005 From: lands_heinie at yahoo.com (ROBERT KRINER) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown in Bright Hills Message-ID: <20050424153042.87890.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings and Salutations from Heinrich,Baron Bright Hills A few remarks about the existing physical conditions at Camp Spencer,Crown site. The site is PRIMITIVE, HEAVILY WOODED with dirt roads. Flat open space around the list field is minimal,therefore, entrants in the List will have first priority for Day Shades. All Day Shades and Open pavillions must be of a period design. No camping is allowed around the list field. The List field will be lighted through out the night on Friday. CAMPING SPOTS between the trees are suitable for small to medium tents(Boy Scout size). There are no vehicles allowed in the camping areas. Latrines were recently cleaned and the Barony has order spot-a-pots. Parking will be in a field near the camp.A small amount of Handicap parking will be available by the feast hall,tag or hanger required. Loading and unloading will be done in the gravel area by the feast hall.Due to the camp road being one lane road with public access there will be a maxium of 20 minutes to unload and move vehicle. The Barony will provide wagons and lawn carts to assist with transporting to the camping areas. MERCHANTS, please take note of unloading and transport requirements. TROLL will be open and lighted all night. PLEASE PRAY FOR DRY WEATHER!!!!! In Service Heinrich, Baron Bright Hills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Countessmenguk at aol.com Sun Apr 24 13:23:11 2005 From: Countessmenguk at aol.com (Countessmenguk at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:23:11 EDT Subject: [MR] Happy News Message-ID: <12a.5c0c5f38.2f9d5a2f@aol.com> Please excuse the bandwidth, but I am afraid that I have missed a few people that I do not have e-mail for at the moment.... Sir Havordh and I are happy to announce the arrival of the newest member of our family. Our son, Alexander Gatlin Martin, was born on April 8th at 9:20 pm, England time :-) after 3 hours of labor,...which, at times, seemed much longer :-). He was 22 inches long and weighed 8lbs, 14 ounces. His sister is very happy with her new little brother and we could not be more thrilled! Thanks for all the previous notes of encouragement during the end of my pregnancy and the well wishes on Alexander's arrival. Sincerely, Mary-Grace From cbt at ib-ent.com Sun Apr 24 13:54:48 2005 From: cbt at ib-ent.com (C. Brian Towey) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:48 -0400 Subject: [MR] RE: Review: Krylon Fusion Paint In-Reply-To: <20050424160006.E62351C3215@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> Message-ID: <000401c5490f$df0b1630$6600a8c0@P42Ghz> A very helpful individual has written me off list to say that Ace Hardware's Royal Accents brand enamel adheres well and wears well on an EZ-Up type canopy. That is good news, indeed. I'll be picking up some to try. Many thanks, Charles Fleming From kblack at breckenvale.com Sun Apr 24 15:46:21 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:46:21 -0400 Subject: [MR] Attention All Fighters and Consorts for Spring Crown Message-ID: <007e01c54920$31a27a40$768cfa45@Home> At the request of Heinrich Baron Bright Hills, I am asking that if you are fighting in Spring Crown and would like a pavilion on the list field, you must respond to me privately by Friday, April 29th at kblack at breckenvale.com with your pavilion dimension and the footprint dimensions with the ropes. The list field space will be tight and there will more than likely be a second row of pavilions. Which brings me to my next point ... Baron Heinrich just posted the sites rules and I would like to reiterate the rule about pavilions. They must be of a period design and they must be completely open (no walls). We want to insure that the back row on the list field will be able to see what's happening, as well. So, please email your pavilion size by Friday, April 29th. Thank you for your cooperation. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From brunosharpy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 16:35:08 2005 From: brunosharpy at yahoo.com (Karen Setze) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Crown feast spaces remaining Message-ID: <20050424233508.53705.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> My Lords and Ladies: We do still have some spaces left at the Crown feast, but they are going fast. Let me encourage you to mail your reservations very soon. Lady Yseulte __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From antiquarianarts at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 19:07:40 2005 From: antiquarianarts at earthlink.net (Robert Rich) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:07:40 -0400 Subject: [MR] ISO... Hamish & Isabeau ... and others formerly of Aethelmearc Message-ID: <410-2200541252740698@earthlink.net> Greetings to all who find these words, Would Hamish and Isabeau please send us a line so that we can communicate in the future. Our visit ay Aethelmearc Coronation was way too brief for such good friends, we look forward to seeing you again. Thank You, Master Brendan and Mistress Filipia Sponsored by ... The Aethelmearc Foreign Legion. From SNSpies at aol.com Sun Apr 24 20:56:36 2005 From: SNSpies at aol.com (SNSpies at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:56:36 EDT Subject: [MR] bog bodies (Fwd: Aoife-Links Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4) Message-ID: <13e.11f7907a.2f9dc474@aol.com> In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, aoife-links-request at scatoday.net writes: Subject: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs To: Message-ID: <00a201c54831$5fa4a430$4175bacc at pcbz6mpmt4r04r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Greetings my Faithful Readers! This week is a trip into the macabre, as we take a look at Bog Bodies. Like a train wreck, it's impossible not to look at these strange and ancient bodies. The truth of the matter is, however, that we, as historical enthusiasts, have a lot to learn from these finds. Take, for instance, Lindow Man. It is speculated that Lindow Man was alternately a criminal on the run, a late-day Druid Priest sacrificed in a ritual, or the victim of a robbery. Whatever the ancient truth may have been, Lindow Man's work was not finish on that dark day at approx 500 AD. Once he was discovered, his entire being was analyzed. Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. Scientists were able to tell what grains he ate, how they were cooked, how long, at what temperatures, and how much gluten was present (which tells the length of time the dough sat before cooking and whether it was leavened or not). According to The Life and Death of a Druid Prince: The Story of Lindow Man, an Archaeological Sensation by Anne Ross, Don Robins (a somewhat melodramatic book that never the less gives the scientific results of the stomach analysis) Lindow man's last meal was most likely a mixed-grain bannock, which was burnt on one edge such as might happen with a traveller who stops to make a hasty meal by the roadside. Some folks--see links below--interpret the results to mean a sort of porridge. But however the results are interpreted, that's the sort of information that is invaluable in re-creating history. I used this and similar information to re-create a meal for an early-period feast many years ago. Lacking early Celtic cookbooks, archaeology was the first and best place to go for information about Ancient Celtic Food. Many of these finds are fairly early to our time period, but none the less fascinating. I encourage you to use the reading list linked below for more information to these fascinating finds. Please pass this Links List along to those who may find it interesting. Cheers Dame Aoife Finn m/k/a Lisbeth Herr-Gelatt Cantonof Riverouge Barony of Endless Hills Kingdom of Aethelmearc If you wish to correspond with Aoife directly, please send mail to: mtnlion at ptd dot net Reluctant Travelers: The Bog Bodies of Europe http://www.utexas.edu/courses/wilson/ant304/projects/projects97/dentep/dentep. html (Site Excerpt) On May 13, men working on the peat elevator discovered a well-preserved skull which the forensic pathologist identified as a 30 to 50-year-old European female. When confronted with this discovery, Mr. Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder. Police continued their investigation in the peat, and decided to involve Oxford University's Research Laboratory for Archaeology. Just before the Reyn-Bardt case went to trial, Oxford came forward with a date for the skull-they had found it to be 1660-1820 years old.... The Bodies in the Bog: A Reading List http://www.digitalmedievalist.com/bibs/bogbib.html Bog finds, Wetlands, Logboats http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/bog_log.htm (Site Excerpt) In Europe, hundreds of logboats (dugouts) have been found in bogs and sweetwater lakes. The oldest are c 9000 years old, the youngest are c 250 years old in most of Europe, but as young as c 100 years in the Baltic States and Russia. Most logboats found in bogs are probably not sacrificed offerings. Such logboats may simply have been abandoned in lakes or riverbeds that later dried-out. The Mysterious Bog People http://www.civilization.ca/media/docs/pr148beng.html (Site Excerpt) The Mysterious Bog People is a unique exhibition. Never before have so many bog mummies and offerings been brought together, providing valuable insight into the practices of our ancestors. Even the remains of the only known wooden Bronze Age temple will be on display. Tri-Spiral: Lindow Man Articles (Adobe Acrobat required) http://www.sidhe66.atfreeweb.com/PDF%20docs/Imbolc01.PDF Articles on: Lindow Cereals, Lindow Man find Early Anglo-Saxon Costume: An Archaeological Approach Copyright 2002, 2003 by Elizabeth Peters http://home.comcast.net/~bethpeters3/WebArticles/ArchDressClass.htm (Site Excerpt) One of the challenges in researching early period costume is that written and artistic records contain little or ambiguous material. In this class, we will look at Anglo-Saxon Costume in the Pagan Era (410-650 AD). Examples of men's and women's costume will be discussed. We will examine an archaeological approach to reconstructing the costume of this period. Reports of bog and grave finds as well as actual dress ornaments from the period will be used. Questions about Bog Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummymaster/mummyQbogs.htm (Site Excerpt) A sleeveless tunic was found in one bog, a sleeved tunic in another. All of these are considered men's garments. Skin capes and woolen cloaks have been found with women's bodies. The most famous clothing item is a woolen peplos (a draped dress--somewhat like a toga) found on Huldremose Woman. SEE ALSO: Big Mummies http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/bog/mummiesbog.htm (Site Excerpt) The only other place (besides northern Europe) to produce bog mummies is Florida (Windover Pond, though the preserved remains there were not entire "bog bodies" but "bog brains:" early native Americans used the pond as a burial site from which scientists recovered some skeletal remains in the mid-1980s; the preserved brain matter inside some skulls was able to provide DNA samples. Mummy Museums http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.weerdinge.htm (Site Excerpt) Found in the Bourtangermoor in 1904 by peatcutter Hilbrand Gringhuis, the bodies were long thought to be those of a man and woman. They were called the Weerdinge couple, and they were even given names: Darby (for the man) and Joan. Wikipedia; Bog Body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_body (Site Excerpt) Preserved bodies of humans and animals have been discovered in bogs in Britain, Ireland, northern Germany, the Netherlands and Denmark. Records of such finds go back as far as the 18th century. It is not readily apparent if a body has been buried in a bog for years, decades, or centuries. However, during the 20th century, forensic and medical technology was developed which allow researchers to more closely determine their age. Peatlands Archaeology http://www.peatlandsni.gov.uk/archaeology/ (Site Excerpt) Although the majority of finds are from Antrim and Londonderry, this is partly due to the fact that Ordnance Survey extensively surveyed both counties in the 1830s, collecting archaeological information as they went. Antiquarians working from Belfast formed collections from objects found on these surveys, many of which eventually found their way into museums. It is probable that a vast number of similar finds may have been lost from peatlands in other counties, particularly the widespread areas in Tyrone and Fermanagh. Tollund Man and Elling Woman http://www.silkeborgmuseum.dk/en/tollund.html (Site Excerpt) Why Tollund Man was hanged and buried in the peat bog we shall never know. But his fellow men did not treat him like a criminal: after he died, they carefully closed his eyes and mouth and carried him to the peat bog, where he was laid to rest with care. This bears witness to a dignified burial. Thus it is reasonable to see Tollund Man as a human sacrifice to the god or gods. Maybe to the god of the bog, he who gave men peat and other goods. Early Iron Age societies cremated their dead, only bog bodies had a different burial - perhaps the gods would be appeased by a whole body only and not by burnt bones. The Drents Museum in Assen: Yde Girl (Article about facial reconstruction) http://www.mummytombs.com/museums/nl.assen.drents.yde.reconstruct.htm (Site Excerpt) In1992, the face of Yde Girl was reconstructed by medical artist Richard Neave. The task was daunting, because the mummy had been found 100 years earlier and had dried out so much that it was half its original size. Bodies of Evidence (a timeline of mummified remains and their discovery) http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/B/bodies/ttimeline.html Many sites from Archaeology.org: Violence in the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/violence1.html (Site Excerpt) In 1879 the body of an adult woman was found in a bog near Ramten, Jutland in Denmark. The body, known as Huldremose Woman, was very well preserved. The woman met her violent end sometime between 160 B.C. and 340 A.D. Her arms and legs showed signs of repeated hacking, and the diggers who found her body noted that her right arm was detached from the rest of her body. That arm was evidently cut off before she was deposited in the peat. (National Museum of Denmark, Copenhagen) Bodies of the Bogs http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/ (Site Excerpt) Over the past centuries, remains of many hundreds of people--men, women, and children--have come to light during peat cutting activities in northwestern Europe, especially in Ireland, Great Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Denmark. These are the "bog bodies." The individual bog bodies show a great degree of variation in their state of preservation, from skeletons, to well-preserved complete bodies, to isolated heads and limbs. They range in date from 8000 B.C. to the early medieval period. Most date from the centuries around the beginning of our era. We do not know exactly how many bog bodies have been found--many have disappeared since their discovery. Clothing and Hair Styles of the Bog People http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/clothing1.html (Site Excerpt) A well-preserved body was found on Grewelthorphe Moor, North Yorkshire in 1850. Dressed in bright woolen garments and a pair of shoes, it was reburied in the churchyard of Kirkby Mazeard. Fortunately a policeman managed to secure some bits and pieces: a nailed sole of the left shoe, a woolen insole, and a textile fragment of irregular shape which may have been part of a stocking. The unusual shoe sole is typical for the Roman period. (Yorkshire Museum, H 2053.1, H 2053.2) Haraldskaer Woman http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/gunhild.html (Site Excerpt) ... it was believed that the remains were those of the Norwegian queen Gunhild. According to the Jomsvikinga saga she was killed and drowned in a bog at the instigation of the Danish king Harald Blatand (Blue Tooth). King Frederick VI had a beautiful sarcophagus carved for this alleged royal mummy, in which it was laid to rest in the church of St. Nicholas in Vejle. From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 05:42:27 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lkuney at ec.rr.com Mon Apr 25 08:47:03 2005 From: lkuney at ec.rr.com (Sayyida Halima al-Shafi'i of Raven's Cove) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:47:03 -0400 Subject: [MR] OT: Looking for home in Wilmington area Message-ID: <426D10F7.10808@ec.rr.com> I am trying to assist a friend who wishes to buy a home in the Wilmington area...if anyone knows of a home for sale within 15-20 minutes of Wilmington, please contact me off-list. Halima From belfebe at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:10:19 2005 From: belfebe at yahoo.com (Belphoebe) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161019.46702.qmail@web40425.mail.yahoo.com> Try B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/). It is in my opinion the best source for wool online. (Check their specials section. Can't beat it for wool flannel at $6.50 per yard!). Another good source is www.denverfabrics.com. There are other sources, but these two (particularly the first one) are my favorites. Cheers, Belphoebe --- Kim McGuire wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for buying wool > fabric > online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why > I > need to wear more wool. > > Regards, > Melisent > > > "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." > Teh C > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ======================================================================== > The Merry Rose Tavern at > Cheapside > List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/ > Submissions: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org > Subscriptions: > http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/atlantia > > -- It is a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you are badly dressed. (From the Rules of Ettiquette of the Ankh Morpork Guild of Assasins) House Fallen From Grace, "Corrupting the Innocent since 1569": http://www.houseffg.org Atlantian Siege Guild http://siege.atlantia.sca.org From merritt at tatrc.org Mon Apr 25 09:15:42 2005 From: merritt at tatrc.org (Merritt, Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:15:42 -0400 Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? Message-ID: Melisent: I buy a LOT of wool gabardine/twill from fashion fabric club at: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/index.cfm I love the quality of their fabrics and the price is much lower than G Street. In the last 6 weeks, I've gotten over 30 yards of various weights and colors. Once you start to order from them, they mail swatches every month. I have also purchased a variety of wool fabrics from e-bay, but am not nearly as satisfied with the quality or prices found there from two of the vendors I dealt with. Alessandra de Venizia (Cheryl) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim McGuire Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Message-ID: <20050425124227.19376.qmail at web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have a good source for buying wool fabric online? Blackstone Raids was a great reminder of why I need to wear more wool. Regards, Melisent From melisent_spinning at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:17:34 2005 From: melisent_spinning at yahoo.com (Kim McGuire) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Buying Wool Online? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425161735.83016.qmail@web54706.mail.yahoo.com> I want to thank everyone for the responses. I have had an overwhelming number of suggestions for B. Black and Sons (http://www.bblackandsons.com/index.html) and I was to thrilled to find $6.50 a yard wool that I have already made a purchase with them this morning. Thank you all again for the suggestions, Melisent "Yeah man, I'm gonna gnaw your face off." Teh C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From davewendelken at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 09:27:50 2005 From: davewendelken at earthlink.net (david wendelken) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Re: [Aoife-Links] The Mummy Returns! Bodies from the Bogs Message-ID: <26988056.1114446470547.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> >...Take, for instance, Lindow Man. ... >... Such care was taken to analyze his stomach remains that it is possible >to garner a fairly accurate recipe from his stomach contents. "Bog Person Porridge" has been a favorite in our house for decades. Quite tasty, actually. andras salamandra From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:49:54 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:49:54 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Lenoir,NC References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 13:51:00 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [MR] Below the Salt Hafla References: <024001c53d73$3c2ea370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00d501c549d8$7d166370$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Lenoir, NC Saturday evening after the brewing contest is over, there will be a hafla. So bring your drums! I have it on good authority that there will be quite a few excellent dancers there as well as their drummers. At noon, I will be teaching a brief intro to belly dance & a class on "How to Dance to Achbar's drumming" Edward will be teaching an intro to drumming. Reyna ************************************************************************************************************************** The Canton of Baelfire Dunn presents Below the Salt May 13-15, 2005 Are you tired of trying to decide what title to use when addressing a particular noble? Are you frustrated with being caught off guard when the King and Queen suddenly appear before you? Still having trouble figuring out which award is for what and whether or not it is a kingdom level or a baronial level award? Are you still confused at what a peerage is? Well then, have we got an event for you! Below the Salt, where nobody has a title, and everyone has fun! Event site: Fort Defiance 1792 Fort Defiance Dr. Lenoir, NC 28645 Camping is primitive tenting only. Period tents encouraged but not required. See below for a list of local hotels. Heavy Fighting: We will have two tourney's and a WOODS BATTLE for the heavy fighters that features the outlaws Vs the sheriff's men. Come on out all you Combat Archers, this battle is ready-made for you! For the winner of the tourney we also have a hand painted beer stein! Rapier Fighting: For the rapier we have a special treat, a tavern brawl scenario at the INFAMOUS DRUNKEN MERMAID TAVERN! Come try to survive in the chaotic turmoil that takes place in the roughest bar of the kingdom! For the one who shows his skill and cunning to be the best, they will win a hand painted beer stein! A&S: There will be a brewing contest for those of you interested in testing your ability to impress our judge. The categories will be: Best Ale, light and dark. Best Mead, any. Best Wine, any. Best overall. Period recipes with accompanied documentation are encouraged! The winner of Best overall will receive a hand painted beer stein! Gaming Contest: There will be (fake) coin handed out at troll for a gaming contest. Winners of this contest will receive a SPECTACULAR PRIZE! ***A hand painted banner of Spike!*** There will be multiple winners. Feast: Must be reserved in advance. Simple but hearty & good tasting fare. $4 gets you the following: Breakfast Saturday: Oatmeal and hard-boiled eggs Hot water for tea and instant coffee Dinner Saturday: Cheese Bread (home baked of course) Honey butter Hard-boiled eggs Venison stew Leek and Potato soup Mincemeat tarts Oatcakes Costs: Site Fee Feast Adults (ages 18 and up) $8.00 $4.00 Youth (ages 6-17) $5.00 $4.00 Children 5 and under Gratis Gratis Note - Non-members ages 18 and up, please include $3.00 bringing your site fee total to $11.00. This does not apply to members under the age of 18. Autocrat - Edward Shirebrooke (Rick Dawman) reaver at compascable.net 828-437-0528 Reservationist - Reyna Camlo (Robin Dawman) reyna at compascable.net 117 Gant St. Morganton, NC 28655 828-437-0528 or (828) 443-3459 Reservations - Please make checks payable to "The Canton of Baelfire Dunn/SCA, Inc." Be sure to include your society AND modern names as well as your membership number if you are a member. Feast is limited, if you wish to be on board, send in your reservation early. Directions: Take your best route to Hwy 321 toward Lenoir, NC. >From the South: Continue on Hwy 321 through the city of Lenoir. Approximately 3.5 miles after the last traffic light in the city you will come to a flashing yellow light, turn right onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) >From the North: As you approach the city of Lenoir on Hwy 321, look for the flashing yellow light and turn left onto Hwy 268. (*Continue below.) *Travel on Hwy 268 for 9/10 of a mile, turn right. (Staying on Hwy 268.) Continue for 4.5 miles before turning right into Ft. Defiance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Red Carpet Inn (828) 758-4403 142 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Jameson Inn (828) 758-1200 350 Wilkesboro Blvd SE Lenoir, NC 28645 Comfort Inn (828) 754-1200 350 Blowing Rock Blvd Lenoir, NC 28645 Days Inn (828) 754-0731 206 Blowing Rock Blvd. Lenoir, NC 28645 Rates: $47.00 - $65.00 per night. From reyna at compascable.net Mon Apr 25 14:50:49 2005 From: reyna at compascable.net (Reyna) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:50:49 -0400 Subject: [MR] More Below the Salt References: <006401c5358a$f6c8a230$8ce0d5cc@kirk> <00cc01c549d8$55c1e060$8ce0d5cc@kirk> Message-ID: <00f201c549e0$d8583ad0$8ce0d5cc@kirk> You've heard about the spectacular prizes to be given away at Below the salt! Now is your chance to take a gander at them. Check them out at this website! http://compascable.net/~reyna/ Get your reservations in now! Everyone will want to get their hands on these finely handpainted Beer steins sporting Atlantia's colors. Not only that, but everyone will want to show there pride for their Kingdom by flying the hand crafted banners of Spike! Go here for more info on Below the Salt: http://baelfiredunn.atlantia.sca.org/BTSflyer.htm In Service, Reyna From marcodaverona at earthlink.net Mon Apr 25 20:14:44 2005 From: marcodaverona at earthlink.net (Martin Connelly) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:14:44 -0700 Subject: [MR] Heroe's Portion Archery May 13-15 References: Message-ID: <014801c54a0e$190a4c30$f9099804@Martins> Update on Hero's Portion !! Due to travels far and wide, I make my appologies about not getting this out earlier. WE are having archery at Hero's Portion, May 13 - 15th. There will be several stages. 1st - a trotting woods shoot at, at least 10 targets. Archers will jog the course laid out in pairs, stopping at marked shooting lines, shoot one arrow at each target(timed), then move to the next target and so on. Targets will be marked for different point values. All targets will be scored after all archers have completed the course. 2nd - we will them move on to a clout shoot....! more practice for Pennsic 3rd. - and lastly, a royal round.... archers, make sure you have at least 12 arrows on you when you arrive.... Archers will compete within your skill levels.....children are also welcome to participate with the accompaning adult . Marco da Verona From jendobyns at verizon.net Tue Apr 26 05:58:22 2005 From: jendobyns at verizon.net (Jennifer Dobyns) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:22 -0400 Subject: [MR] runes help needed Message-ID: Greetings, I am looking for a source (preferably online) about runes. Not one of the new-age, Brian Froud originated varieties, but real Old Norse runes, something the Vikings might be familiar with, for a friend who is interested in them. Any help will be greatly appreciated by the lady (and me as her helper). I am afraid I am woefully derelict in knowing things Norse. Yh&os, Jen Dobyns From ullrmadr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 06:25:04 2005 From: ullrmadr at yahoo.com (Scott Cozad) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] runes help needed In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050426132504.52127.qmail@web61310.mail.yahoo.com> Contacted off list. Cheers, Scott Edward de Clare in the SCA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From poetamilitarus at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:09:07 2005 From: poetamilitarus at yahoo.com (Duane Moore) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Sapphire Joust List Space Message-ID: <20050426170907.75774.qmail@web41410.mail.yahoo.com> Forwarded for Lord Malcolm, If you want list field space for a day shade please contact me at malcolmdemoffat at yahoo.com with your name, group name, tent size, and shape. Only period tents will be allowed around the list. Thank you. Sincerely, Malcolm MacCallum de Moffat Deputy Autocrat in charge of Land Allocation Sapphire Joust 6 Sir Bryce de Byram,OL (Duane M. Moore) 100%Peer-Evil NEW Household Site: http://geocities.com/blackandgoldchecky/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From quotku at yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 10:48:32 2005 From: quotku at yahoo.com (AW) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Demo this weekend at Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery Message-ID: <20050426174832.88864.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com> >From their website: May Day Weekend at Hill Top Berry Farm & Winery. Featuring our meads, cyser, melomels, and pyments. We will guide you back to a time long ago; taste and learn about the origin of the world?s oldest alcoholic beverages, known as meads. Savor with medieval foods and music. $10 admission includes logo glass; children free. Hi All, First of all, anyone wearing garb who says they are with the SCA gets in FREE! Dates and Time: Sat. April 30, 11-5 Sun. May 1, 1-5 Location: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/directions.htm For the demo: There is a covered pavilion with picnic tables that we can use. There is plenty of outside space for fighting demos etc. They would like us to bring any or all of the following: SCA information Dance Music - any live musicians for dancing and/or ambience? Fighting - rapier or heavy Arts and Sciences displays or activities Books/Resources on the Middle Ages Red Mountain Inn (we'll use stones for coinage) and other Medieval Games Any questions, please email me. Thanks, Lady Anne la Settere -- "It never hurts to help." Eek! The Cat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From achbar at earthlink.net Wed Apr 27 04:22:29 2005 From: achbar at earthlink.net (Achbar ibn Ali) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:22:29 -0400 Subject: [MR] Desert Wind Message-ID: Desert Wind June 10-12 2005 Barony Sacred Stone Boonville, NC Take a Journey to the Elchenburg Castle and enjoy a day Target and Combat Archery. We will have a fun filled weekend of Bardic, drumming and dancing as well as darkening the Atlantian Skies with our mighty flights of arrows! Martial Activities Target IKAC Combat IKAC Combat Archer Tournament Target Archer Wood Hunt Martial In Charge : Lord Menua of the Black Oak Grove catmajick at hotmail.com Arts and Sciences Please contact TH Lady Bronwen of Hindscroft seneschal@}hindscroft.atlantia.sca.org Best Display of Archery Equipment Best Display of Islamic Art Open Arts and Science Friday Night Open Hofla Hosted by Lord Asim Middle Eastern Dance and Drumming Lord Asim can be reached at asim at mindspring.com Saturday Night Middle Eastern Dance Contest Hosted by Lady Halima _al_shaffi She can be reached at lkuney at ec.rr.com COST Weekend $10 ages 5-17 $7.00 Day Trip $7 ages 5-17 $4.00 Ages 0-4 Guests of the Barony $3.00 Non-member surcharge for adults Site 2239 Center Road, Boonville, NC 27011 Primitive Site with Bathhouse. This is a WET site. Period and modern tenting allowed. Site opens at 6 pm Friday and closes at 1 pm Sunday. There will be no Feast Served at Desert Wind. Please bring your Grill and Picnic Baskets. There are local Restaurants to suit every taste., Autocrat: Baron Achbar Ibn Ali Achbar at earthlink.net 704 3994033 Reservations: Miriel Crawford tygerphoenix at stormcrow.org Tracie Ellis, 28270 Deep Cove Dr Concord, NC 28027 Make Checks payable to " Barony of Sacred Stone, SCA Inc" Hotel Information: Rose Village Motel (336) 835-3609 407 N. Bridge St. Jonesville, NC 28642 Days Inn (336) 526-6777 1540 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville, NC 28642 Hampton Inn (336) 835-1994 1632 NC Hwy 67, Jonesville NC 28642 Directions: From the south: Take your best route to I-77 North. Take exit 82 and turn right at the end of the exit ramp. *Proceed less than a mile and turn right onto Messick Rd. Proceed to the end of Messick Rd, and turn left on Center Road. Approx 8 miles later is a BP gas station on the left. 1.4 miles past the BP station, turn right at the first castle on the right on a gravel road. Signs will be posted. From Hwy 421: proceed to intersection with I-77 North, Exit 82, use directions from * From I-81: proceed to I-77 South to Exit 82, turn left at the exit ramp, use directions from above From mnv at viviano.net Wed Apr 27 06:05:34 2005 From: mnv at viviano.net (Mara) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Subject: [MR] Baronial Scroll Backlog Project Message-ID: <20050427130655.017AA1C3212@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org> To the Populace of Windmasters' Hill The Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium is proud to take on the challenge of lessening the Baronial backlog of award scrolls. In order to do so we need your assistance. Posted on this webpage (http://viviano.net/mara/SCA/WHbacklog.html) is a spreadsheet of Baronial Awards for the past few years. The spreadsheet is incomplete and there may be inaccuracies in name spelling or specific awards. Please take a moment to review the backlog for your own awards and confirm the following information: a) The spelling of your name b) The award and any specific reasons for it's presentation (esp. for a BAE) c) The date and event where the award was presented d) If you received an original scroll for that award (not a promissory) e) If you do or do not want a scroll for the award. Keep in mind that you may be entitled to a number of original scrolls. In order to fairly allocate our limited resources of Scribes and time, please indicate the order of priority of your awards so we put the effort into creating the award with the most meaning for you. Please indicate if you have never received an original scroll as these will be the first assignments of the Scriptorium. When a scroll assignment is accepted the scribe may contact you concerning your persona and any particular ideas you may have. Keep in mind that the Scriptorium represents Scribes of varying experience but all assignments will be accepted with a commitment to excellence and a desire to please. A note on Kingdom level awards: Be aware that this is a Baronial backlog project as the process for handling Kingdom level awards very different. There is a huge backlog of Kingdom scrolls. If you have a particular desire to have a Kingdom level scroll done, your best option would be to speak directly to a scribe whose work you admire and commission the work. The scribe may then request the assignment from the Clerk Signet. A note on the Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: The Scriptorium is a Guild that is open to anyone interested in the scribal arts; learning, teaching or going. We have many members who have an interest or skill in one area (calligraphy, design, illumination or copy writing) and have had great success collaborating with Scribes of different skills. At our most recent Court we have scrolls produced by as many as three different scribes with creative input by even more. You are welcome to join us to learn more about the scribal arts and not take a scroll assignment until you are ready. Future Scriptorium Dates: May 21 Scriptorium will be held in conjunction with the Glassworkers Guild at Lady Sveva's in North Durham. June 11 Scriptorium just prior to Midsummer's Night Twilight Tourney to be held at Lady Sibohan's July 16 Scriptorium location to be determined. Scrolls will be produced for Pennsic. Informal Scriptoriums: All guild members are encouraged to promote the scribal arts. If you plan to be home and working on your scrolls and want to invite other members of the populace to join you, please do so and send a note to the Keep. Canton Meetings: There are members of the Scriptorium that would be happy to attend local Canton meetings to discuss the activities of the Scriptorium or teach about the scribal arts. If Canton MoAS would like to have one of the Scriptorium attend a meeting, please contact Philippa or Tsuruko. Yours in Service, Lady Philippa Tillinghast Tsuruko Guild Mistress Deputy Guild Mistress Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium jkennedy93 at yahoo.com mnv at viviano.net From karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 12:09:19 2005 From: karen_larsdatter at yahoo.com (Karen) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Arts & Sciences at Atlantian Crown Tournament Message-ID: <20050427190920.7109.qmail@web52008.mail.yahoo.com> Crown Tournament's A&S competitions include the competition for Scrivener Royal, as well as Tempore Atlantia (for pre-1000 items). There will also be competitions for small-gauge knitting; uses of crowns or coronet in any medium; and bone, antler, or horn carving. (See http://brighthills.atlantia.sca.org/events/CrownTourney.htm or http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/events.htm for more information.) For expedited check-in for any of the displays or competitions, download and fill out the Tent Card Form (http://moas.atlantia.sca.org/forms/alt.pdf) and bring it with you to the competition check-in area. Here is the current schedule for the Arts & Sciences competitions at Crown Tournament. (The schedule is subject to change.) 9:00 AM - Arts & Sciences area opens for check-in 1:00 PM - Deadline to bring entries for competitions 1:30-3:00 PM - Judging All items must be picked up no later than 5:00 PM. Karen From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 08:46:57 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:46:57 -0400 Subject: [MR] Blackwork Embroidery Shameless Plug Message-ID: For any that are interested Nan of Very Personally Yours (Which will be merchanting at Crown Tourney and Highland River Melees) will have machine embroidered blackwork pieces for cuffs and collars at these events. She has been given the exclusive right to sell the Machine Embroidery design sets for Cuffs and Collars and I believe the designer is coming out with Cuffs and Collars II, as well as sets for the following: for the feast which will be feast cloth corners, coasters and goblet cover designs, a bookmark set and a motif set. Each disk has 20 designs for any embroidery machine as well information on how to use the designs and they are $35 per set. I've seen the stitch outs on these and I have to say they looked like the real thing! For me it'll be nice because I'll be able to make nice authentic looking garb table wear that I won't care if I wash dishes in it or get it dirty because it'll be machine washable. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From rscherer at infionline.net Thu Apr 28 08:53:58 2005 From: rscherer at infionline.net (Roy B. Scherer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Monty Python Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050428115144.033e14d0@pop.infionline.net> Monty Python is playing at midnight Saturday at Richmond's Byrd Theatre: $3.00 If someone is on the Caer Mear list, please forward. end - - Roy B. Scherer [8 N. Sheppard Street, Richmond, VA 23221; (804) 355-7612] ============================================================ Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world? ?Thomas Paine ============================================================ From ladydanielabh at hotmail.com Thu Apr 28 10:15:41 2005 From: ladydanielabh at hotmail.com (Danielle Scott) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Subject: [MR] blackwork embroidery Message-ID: I've had a chance to scan in 14 of the 20 in the set Cuffs and Collars. If your interested you can view them at: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ladydanielabh/album?.dir=/ea97 As for purchasing individual pieces of finished cloth I'm not sure on the price for them yet. I think she's pricing them depending on stitchcounts. In Service to our King, Queen & Fair Atlantia, Lady Daniela Schwartzhaupt Promissory Clerk of Atlantia Haus Zwerge Berge Life is but a dream and we are all the background of each others. Lets not make them nightmares! From charris at gruffudd.com Fri Apr 29 15:35:02 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:35:02 -0400 Subject: [MR] Mail to kingdom aliases Message-ID: <4272B696.4030009@gruffudd.com> If you're reading this chances are you don't have a problem :) However recently there seems to be a rash of people who are having problems sending mail to Kingdom aliases (specifically those with Comcast as their ISP). If you know of anyone having this problem please direct them to web.atlantia.sca.org/mail.html Thanks Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From abelofregnesfolc at aol.com Fri Apr 29 16:41:13 2005 From: abelofregnesfolc at aol.com (Abel Brem of Regnesfolc) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:41:13 -0400 Subject: [MR] The Northern Army on the march. Message-ID: <4272C618.6090907@aol.com> The Northern Army on the march. Harken northern warriors of Atlantia, our noble warlord, Valharic, calls us forward to do the king?s wishes in far off lands. On May 19-22 our AEthlmearc allies are preparing for war, and HRM wishes us to join them. This month, our royalty has asked the Northern Regional War Practice to be in the Barony of the Debatable Lands (Cooper?s Lake Campground) on SATURDAY May 22. http://warpractice.steltonwald.org/ There will be combat archery, there will be siege weapons, there will be raiper, there will be camping. The JUNE warpractice will be on Sunday, June 26th. Hosted by Dun Carraig at the same site as Challenge of the Heart. Yours in service, Abel From joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 16:49:37 2005 From: joshua.r.thomas at gmail.com (Joshua Thomas) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: [MR] new email address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380f9a79050429164927b24d6c@mail.gmail.com> Enequy, I will be able to attend your Archery class tommorow at Tir y Don's Birthday. I think it might be good to have a few more marshals in Marinus thus I throw my hat or in this case chaperon in the ring. Tristan de Brailesford From kblack at breckenvale.com Fri Apr 29 20:01:58 2005 From: kblack at breckenvale.com (Kathrina A. Black) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:01:58 -0400 Subject: [MR] Tentage at Crown - 2nd Try Message-ID: <000e01c54d30$f9551980$768cfa45@Home> I didn't see this come through on the list, so I'm trying again. Thanks to all who responded to my request for tent dimensions for Crown. I still have not heard from the following people: -Count Janos of Cyddlain Downs -Sir Tascius Severus Fabius -Lady Maria-Therese de Normand -Lord Declan Mac Dockery -Lord Christian Thomas of York -Lord Vels Viggladi Iren Fyrd -Lord Stefan von Kiel -Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori -Sir Godfried of Frisia -Baron Jonathas Reinisch -Takeda Sanjuichiro Akimasa Would these good gentles please contact me ASAP at kblack at breckenvale.com with your tent footprint. If you have other fighters staying under your tent, please let me know, or if you are staying under a tent of someone who has already responded, let me know that as well. Thank you. In Service, Lady Catriona inghean Ghiricc From andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com Fri Apr 29 22:54:26 2005 From: andronikos_psellos at yahoo.com (Robert Montgomery) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Tourney of Lyons Message-ID: <20050430055426.87840.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all! For those interested in attending the Tourney of Lyons in Cordesville SC in the Barony of Hidden Mountain this weekend here is some more information about the event: site address for mapquesting: 1280 3 Mile Rd Cordesville, SC 29434 Site schedule: Friday 5pm Site opens Saturday 8 am- 9 am breakfast available 9:30-10:15 Court and precession of champions 10:30-4:30 A&S open 10:30-11:30 authorizations for heavy and rapier 11:30-1:30 rapier 12:45-1:45 Lunch available 1:30-4:30 heavy Thrown weapons time to be announced onsite 5:30-7 Court Feast follows court Sunday 12 noon site is closed Calvary schedule is: Schedule: 6:00 pm Friday Site opens to horses. 8:00 am Saturday Riders check in with the MOL. Riders with rental horses meet with their horses on the field. 8:30am Open meeting for Cavalry and groundspersons. 9:00 am Field opens for practice. 9:30-10:30 Break for morning court 10:30am Morning Tournament begins. 11:30am Field closes for Morning Tournement. 12:00am Lunch break and Liability Class (location to be announced). All horses at site should have hay and water provided at this time. 2:00 pm Afternoon tourney begins. 4:00 pm Course closes. All horses remaining on site should be fed hay and water at this time. 11:00am Sunday All horses must be off site. There will be a Heraldic consult table in the hall courtesy of Mistress Alesoun MacCoul. Feast menu includes (but not limited to) Lemon Chicken salad stuffed eggs date and nut morsels Savory Toasted Cheese fresh wheat bread & butters pottage of beef rice & Cheese armored turnips roasted carrots & parsnips Cucumber salad Spinach Pie Desserts General site rules: This is a dry site. No Pets (except cavalry horses) Don't feed the alligators (its against the law!...and a bad idea) Ground fires in existing pits only. Only one vehicle at the campsites at a time. Any questions call the Co-Autocrat Andronikos Psellos at 843-514-0809 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From charris at gruffudd.com Sat Apr 30 15:21:32 2005 From: charris at gruffudd.com (Carl Harris) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Subject: [MR] SPIKE 2 Message-ID: <1114899692.4283.16.camel@dev.atlantia.sca.org> Howdy The upgrade for SPIKE (Event Registration) is complete and now live. If you have registered an event that has a start date after 4/30 you should have received your login information. If not, please contact webminister at atlantia.sca.org. Features: 1)Automatic PDF generation of event paperwork 2)Ability to edit event after submission or regenerate paperwork 3)Automatic notification of deadlines 4)A bunch of other stuff SPIKE 2 can be found at spike.atlantia.sca.org Lord Gruffudd ap Cadfael Webminister, Kingdom of Atlantia From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:11:49 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] (no subject) Message-ID: <20050430231149.80928.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jebbydo at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 16:23:35 2005 From: jebbydo at yahoo.com (Debbie Halstead) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] A good commercial mead and a fun demo Message-ID: <20050430232335.73517.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> Let me try this again -- sorry for the blank email. Wow. Today (Saturday) Isenfir had a demo at the Hilltop Berry Farm and Winery in Nellysford, Virginia, a winery that has started specializing in historical beverages. I tasted what I consider to be the single best commercial mead I have tasted (and better that most of the non-commercial ones.) It had a lighter mouth-feel that I often expect from a good mead, but it was still delicious. Anyway, if you have a free Sunday, the Shire will be back down there tomorrow, and we'd love to have more bodies. This weekend is their May Day festival, which, while small, has been great fun for us. They're really enthusiastic about what they are doing and thrilled to have us there. If you show up in garb, and say your with the SCA, you get in free. (Frankly, I think Shirlings bought enough stuff today that they've made their money off of us. Some of it's that good.) Even if you can't make it, it's worth knowing they exist, and are really trying to do a good job with this. Here's their website: http://www.hilltopberrywine.com/index.html Even if you can't lend a hand this weekend, check them out when you get a chance. (Check them out in October after coming to Isenfir's Games Tourney, for instance;-) A number of us thought it well worthwhile. Deborah Aurifex, di gioiellerie Isenfir's Once and Future Seneschale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rmaccuswell at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 17:40:00 2005 From: rmaccuswell at yahoo.com (Robert Maccuswell) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MR] Fwd: *WH* Shire of seareach Message-ID: <20050501004000.22241.qmail@web52004.mail.yahoo.com> Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com