[MR] that cool red italian hat

Jim Layne jim_layne at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 21 05:22:49 PST 2004


I looked at the image, and I'm not sure how much help
this is, but if you find someone wiling to try a
recreation of it they might want to look at the United
States Navy cover for an idea of how it might go
together. It looks very much like one, only taller at
the sides. I wish I knew the specific terminology, but
as I am a Marine we just call it the "popeye" hat or
the "dog dish". Anyway, the construction of this
readily available hat might help in your recreation.
In service to Crown and Coronet,
Lord James ap Llywelyn


--- Jessica Wilbur <Jessica at SummerTreeMosaics.com>
wrote:
> Salve Domenico!
> 
> I wish I could make that hat for you, but my
> millinery skills don't stretch
> as far as shaping wool felt. I expect that some sort
> of block would be
> required for that particular hat, especially since
> it's such an unusual
> shape.
> 
> You might ask around on the
> Italian_Rennaissance_Costuming Yahoo Group (and
> yes, the name of the group is misspelled on Yahoo).
> Someone there might
> either be able to do it for you or point you in the
> right direction. Good
> luck!
> 
> La vostra in servizio,
> --Giuliana Salviati
> 
> PS. My personal opinion is that the balzo is the
> coolest hat in the Known
> World! But that's just me... ;-)
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sean D. Sorrentino" <sdsorrentino at yahoo.com>
> To: <Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:40 PM
> Subject: [MR] that cool red italian hat
> 
> 
> > i am trying to find someone who can make that cool
> > italian hat seen in many Renaissance pictures.
> there
> > are two hats you see a lot, the first, which looks
> > like a red stocking cap, is readily available. the
> > second looks like it is made of felted wool, and
> > appears to be almost flat on top. to see both of
> them,
> > check out this link
> >
> >
>
http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/m/mantegna/2/sposi05.jpg
> >
> > the one on the right is the one i am after. it is
> > sometimes referred to as a "Ducal" hat, but from
> the
> > pictures i have seen, i can't be reserved for
> Dukes
> > because many people seem to be wearing them. check
> out
> >
> >
>
http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/m/mantegna/2/sposi03.jpg
> >
> > which is a different part of the same picture.
> note
> > that not only is the Duke wearing one, but so is
> the
> > guy above and behind him, and also the guy
> standing
> > holding his gloves. not also, the man in Black,
> who
> > has a black version. having looked at all of the
> > Camera Degli Sposi (Ducal Palace, Mantua) photos,
> i
> > can see at least 3 colors of the same hat, and
> > probably 4, red, black, purple, and possibly grey.
> >
> > is there anyone out there who can make them? since
> my
> > skills with fabric are grossly limited, i would
> like
> > to commission at least one made. i would be proud
> to
> > wear it around, and, in addition to the money for
> > making it, you will receive the adoration of all
> those
> > in awe of the coolest hat in the known world. in
> fact,
> > unless we see Count Guido around again, no one
> would
> > even be close to having as cool a hat!
> >
> > if you can make this hat, or know anyone who can,
> > please contact me so that we can work out a fair
> > price. i plan to go to Pennsic this year, so if i
> can,
> > i would like to wear one there.
> >
> > thanks
> > Domenico
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Sean Sorrentino
> > Email:
> > sean at seansorrentino.com
> > check out my photos @
> > http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/sdsorrentino
> >
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