[MR] Fwd: [serapier] Marshallate restructuring proposal for the BoD- long
Aedan Aylwyn
aedan at mindspring.com
Sat Oct 4 05:02:09 PDT 2003
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Aedan
>Greetings to all who read this, and apologies if you get copies from multiple
>forums.
>This proposal was written by my husband, Master William de Montegilt and sent
>to the Board of Directors of the SCA last week. As he does not read many e-
>lists he asked that I post it that those who are interested might provide
>input to the Board of Directors.
>
>If you have questions, please feel free to email me and I will pass the
>questions on to William and then post answers. Since I may not be subscribed
>to every list where this gets posted, you may email me directly at:
>wendyc <at> vivid.net.
>
>This may be cross posted if there is interest but please post the text in its
>entirety.
>In Service to the Society,
>
>Mistress Irene von Schmetterling
>
>--
>Marshallate Reformation Proposal
>
>Introduction
>
>My name is Bill Colbert. In the SCA, I am William de Montegilt. My first
>SCA
>activity was a small tourney in Towson, Maryland, in March of 1975. I was a
>spectator. My second SCA activity was a fighter practice. I have been a
>rattan combat fighter for more than 28 years, and a warranted marshal in two
>kingdoms. I am not a knight, nor have I ever picked up a rapier. I do not
>participate in period combat studies. I do enjoy fighting, very much. This
>information is included so that any biases are evident.
>
>Safety in all forms of SCA combat is a particular interest of mine. It may
>have something to do with my first two fighting seasons both ending early
>with
>a broken arm. I dont like to be hurt, and I dont like to see my friends
>hurt. Also, I believe that a really serious fighting-related injury, or a
>death on the field (any field) might very well spell the end of combat in the
>SCA. The financial circumstances of the Society are such that a large
>judgment exceeding our liability insurance would cripple the organization.
>
>The present structure of the Marshallate within the Society is, I believe,
>conducive to such a disastrous event. The reason for this is that decision
>authority for safety, standards, and practices, within the kingdoms and at
>the
>Society level, are made almost entirely by people very experienced in rattan
>combat. That is just fine for rattan combat, but it is not fine for rapier
>combat, nor equestrian activities, nor siege weapons, nor period combat
>studies. The Board of Directors agrees, at least in the case of equestrian
>activities. As of the April 2003 board meeting, the equestrians were made
>independent of the Marshallate.
>
>Now, I recognize that there are exceptions to the above assertion. But for
>the most part, the situation is as stated. All, or nearly all, of the
>kingdom
>earls marshal and the Society Marshal, presently, and historically, have been
>experienced rattan fighters. Precious few of them have had any other sort of
>fighting experience. Look within your own kingdoms, and see if this is not
>the case.
>
>The main thrust of this proposal is to decentralize decision authority for
>safety, practical techniques, and equipment standards, for each
>combat-related
>activity to the deputy for that activity. The Society Marshal and the
>kingdom
>earls marshal would have different responsibilities than at present. They
>would continue to be responsible for coordinating reporting to their
>respective crowns and corporate superiors. They would have the added
>responsibility of encouraging all forms of fighting, and fighting-related
>activities in their kingdoms, or in the case of the Society Marshal, in the
>Society as a whole.
>
>What comes next is a synopsis of the evolution of Society combat. This is
>intended to illustrate how we got to the current situation. The elements of
>the Proposal will follow that.
>
>History
>
>On May 1, 1966, the Last Tourney was held. It was a backyard party. A total
>of ten fighters competed that day. I have spoken to three of The Ten (Flieg
>Hollander, Henrik Olsgaard, and Dave Thewlis), and they confirm that the
>weapons used in what became the first tourney of the SCA were modern fencing
>equipment, broomsticks, and trash can lids. Within two years, rattan combat
>had become the standard (only) form of combat used in the Society. I mention
>this to illustrate that the evolution of combat within the SCA has occurred,
>literally, from the beginning.
>
>In A.S. 6, the Society Marshal published a statement to the effect that all
>fighters should expect to give and receive full force blows at all times, in
>order to simulate the reality of medieval combat. This idiocy engendered a
>variety of amusing ballads, and intervention by the Board of Directors, who
>appointed a new Society Marshal. I mention this to show that, even very
>early, the Board was willing to intervene in combat-related situations they
>found patently unsafe.
>
>When I began fighting in A.S. 9, there were only four kingdoms. Combat
>archery did not exist. Light weapons were not used. Face thrusts were not
>used. In the East Kingdom, ladies were allowed to train as fighters, but
>could not participate in any tournament competition, much less a Crown
>Tourney. There were a few siege weapons, but they were for demonstration
>purposes only, and were not used in combat.
>
>There was no organized study of historical fighting techniques from any
>era of
>the period, and the development of rattan combat fighting was evolutionary
>rather than historical. By that I mean that many techniques were tried, and
>the ones that tended to work were kept.
>
>Today, all these things are part of Society combat activities. We have Lady
>knights, and even one Lady who was queen, in her own right. Many battles are
>enhanced by the presence of combat archers, and at Gulf Wars, the sky darkens
>during the castle battle with the missiles of the siege engines. Rapier
>combat was introduced in 1979, and has thousands of adherents
>today. Finally,
>the translation and study of actual period combat manuals is perhaps the
>fastest growing combat-related activity. It certainly is the most dynamic.
>
>Fighting and the Society
>
>The first event was a tourney. As we all know, the Society attempts to
>recreate the Middle Ages, as they should have been. I have heard this
>referred to as the Romantic Arthurian model.
>
> From the beginning, the tourney has been the centerpoint of most Society
>events. Throughout its early history, this meant, exclusively, rattan
>combat. Rattan combat tournaments are held even today at the vast
>majority of
>Society events. It tends to capture the imagination of the viewing public
>more than any of our other activities.
>
>The assignment of responsibility for all combat-related activities to a
>Marshallate organization composed of rattan fighters made perfect sense
.as
>long as there were only rattan fighters.
>
>There is now a much wider menu of combat-related activities than was imagined
>when the present structure was set up. The Marshallate has evolved somewhat
>in response. As presently (September 2003) constituted, each of the combat-
>related activities has a deputy to oversee it. This deputy has the
>obligation
>to make policy recommendations to the kingdom earl marshal or the Society
>Marshal, as appropriate. However decision authority remains with the kingdom
>earl marshal or the Society Marshal, regardless of the level of his or her
>qualifications, actual experience, and interest in the particular activity.
>
>The Problems
>
>Safety - It simply does not make sense for someone with no direct
>knowledge or
>expertise in an activity to be regulating it. In this case we are talking
>about regulating it at the level of actual fighting techniques, equipment
>standards, and safety practices. You wouldnt want a fire safety specialist
>making decisions about airplane safety. Yet that is exactly the situation
>that non-rattan fighters are faced with. It represents an obvious danger to
>the participants.
>Liability - We do not have a Society with a large financial endowment. It is
>well known that the Society operates on very narrow fiscal margins, with no
>major reserve funding. The loss of an injury-related lawsuit
>significantly in
>excess of our liability insurance would cripple or liquidate the Society. If
>I were the attorney arguing such a case from the other side, I would be
>overjoyed to find that at three separate levels (Society Marshal, Crown, and
>kingdom earl marshal), oversight responsibility was being performed by
>persons
>with no direct knowledge of the activity.
>Membership dissatisfaction - It should come as no surprise to anyone that
>members participating in combat forms other than rattan combat have been
>subjected to arbitrary rule changes, arbitrary equipment changes, arbitrary
>technique rulings, and arbitrary activity elimination. These have
>occurred at
>the Society Marshal level and the kingdom level, often changing from reign to
>reign, and demonstrably by people acting on erroneous or inadequate
>information. They have been done by officers without direct expertise in
>these other combat forms. The members have also had to endure, on many
>occasions, these types of actions by officers with active dislike or overt
>hostility to their activities, even, in some cases, to pursuing an agenda to
>eliminate them.
>
>Concerning the last point, I wish to make it clear that I am not talking
>exclusively about rapier combat. Similar problems, although fewer in number,
>have occurred with combat archery (on again, off again, hit em, dont
>hit em), siege weapons (ever had anyone firing onions at you during a
>battle? Its happened.), and equestrian activities. It is occurring right
>now with period combat studies. Notice I said studies, not fighting. In
>the past few weeks we had the absurd situation of a kingdom earl marshal
>initially forbidding the showing, at an event, of a videotape illustrating
>historical combat techniques taken from period fighting manuals. The
>justification presented was that this might confuse fighters as to what was
>legal on the field. This decision was even upheld by the Society Marshal. I
>believe, however, that the earl marshal in question has rethought his
>position. Still, the incident illustrates that the Marshallate as presently
>organized is not equipped to deal fairly and appropriately with alternative
>combat-related activities.
>
>There are, literally, thousands of members who use siege engines, fight with
>rapiers, and study historical combat techniques. They also hold events, cook
>feasts, serve their Crowns, and in short, behave like all others members.
>They deserve better treatment and more respect than they have gotten up to
>this point. They deserve to be as safe in their activities as we can make
>them, just like we rattan fighters.
>
>The elements of the Proposal that follows will address each of these issues.
>
>Reorganization of the Marshallate
>
>Society Level:
>Discussion and justification for this have been argued above. In summary,
>the
>present organizational structure places people with little or no expertise,
>and occasionally outright hostility, in decision authority over
>combat-related
>activities other than rattan combat. This compromises the safety of the
>participants, our membership. It also significantly increases the legal
>liability of the Society in case of an injury lawsuit. It also exposes
>participants to the whimsy of officers not particularly interested in their
>activities.
>
>Arguments in favor of such a reorganization include:
>All three of the major problems discussed above are solved or at least
>heavily
>mitigated.
>People not interested in a particular activity are no longer required to
>be in
>the loop. They can confine their attentions to activities that do interest
>them.
>If done correctly, cross-activity technique sharing is enhanced. I refer
>here
>particularly to the efforts of those studying historical combat techniques on
>both rattan combat and rapier combat.
>The positions of Society Marshal and king earl marshal will have a larger
>pool
>of candidates as they will no longer be tied to just rattan combat expertise.
>
>Arguments against might include:
>It isnt traditional. It dilutes the influence of rattan combat as the
>primary form of fighting within the Society.
>The present Society Marshal and kingdom earls marshal wont like it. It
>removes much of their authority.
>
>As a strong believer in both tradition and rattan combat, I will address the
>first argument below, later in the Proposal. As to the second argument,
>well,
>yes. Thats the idea.
>
>Proposed: The office of Marshal of the Society, as described in Corpora, VI
>D., will become a reporting office for activities related to combat and
>archery. Information coordination activities, working with the Chirurgeon
>General to promote safety, and working with the Minister of Arts and Sciences
>will continue as present. Supervision of combat and related activities,
>supervision of subordinate marshals, and making policy decisions,
>interpretations and clarifications regarding the Rules of the Lists as they
>apply to a particular type of combat are now assigned to the deputy society
>marshals for each activity. In particular, deputies will be appointed for
>rattan combat, rapier combat, siege weapons, historical combat studies, youth
>combat, and archery/thrown weapons. Other deputies may be appointed as
>needed, however these deputies will have decision authority over their
>particular activities. Warrants for the Marshal of the Society and the
>Deputies defined below are signed by the Board of Directors.
>
>Note: New text is underscored.
>
>Enabling legislation - Corpora is changed as follows: the text of VI
>(Society Officers) D (Marshal of the Society) is deleted in its entirety and
>replaced with:
> The Marshal of the Society is responsible for reporting on activities
>related to combat and archery to the Board of Directors. This includes
>coordinating the reporting from the Deputy Society Marshals for each
>activity,
>and from the Earls Marshal of the kingdoms. The Marshal of the Society will
>also work with the Chirurgeon General to promote safety in the Societys
>martial arts, and with the Minister of Arts and Sciences to encourage
>research
>in armor and weapons. Further, the Marshal of the Society will have the
>responsibility to encourage and promote participation in combat and archery
>activities by the membership. The Marshal of the Society may appoint such
>Assistant Marshals as are necessary to fulfill these responsibilities.
> Deputy Society Marshals are created for the following
> activities: Armored
>Combat, Rapier Combat, Siege Engines, Archery, Youth Combat, and Period
>Combat
>Studies. The Deputy Society Marshals are responsible for activities in their
>respective areas. This includes directing the appropriate Deputy Earls
>Marshal of the kingdoms in matters concerning the supervision of combat and
>related activities at Society events and the manner and conduct of duties of
>all marshals of their activities throughout the Society.
> The Board specifically authorizes these Deputy Society Marshals to make
>policy decisions, interpretations, and clarification regarding the Rules of
>the Lists, for their respective activities only, and with the proviso that
>such rulings must be reported to the Board at the following meeting. These
>rulings will stand until and unless overruled by the Board.
>
>Before I discuss the effect on the kingdoms, I want to explain some of the
>reasoning here.
>
>First, additional deputy Society marshals can easily be created should
>circumstances dictate. Second, I have included a deputy, rather than an
>assistant for siege engines. The reason for this is that some of these use
>sufficient force to be quite dangerous in uneducated hands. They need to be
>regulated by someone who really understands them.
>
>Third, I feel that having the Archery deputy have responsibility for target
>activities and combat archery is a Good Thing. The reason is the necessity
>of having some sort of Society-wide standards, particularly when it comes to
>arrow construction, so that we can all play safely together.
>
>Fourth, most kingdoms now have some form of youth combat, and others are
>considering it. This activity is still in its early stages, and there is a
>real opportunity here for the kingdoms to share best practices, if there is
>someone to do the coordination. A Society-wide set of minimum standards is
>probably an important outcome. I believe this level of official attention is
>appropriate, as I dont think we have any assets more precious than our
>children.
>
>Finally, although there has always been some level of interest, it is only
>recently that there has been dramatic growth in the interest level in the
>translation and study of historical combat techniques. The important word
>here is study. This is not a competitive activity. There are no
>tournaments. There are practices and demonstrations. As some of these use
>weapons or other physical activity, there is risk to the participants. It
>isnt purely theoretical. Consequently, it is necessary to have regulations
>and equipment standards overseen by someone with expertise in the activity.
>Placing the sidesword experiment here instead of under the Deputy Society
>Marshal for Rapier Combat might be worth considering.
>
>I was recently asked why the study of historical combat techniques should
>be a
>Society activity. The justification is simple, and comes from the
>Articles of
>Incorporation, section II, which says:
The purposes for which this
>corporation is formed include: (a) Research and education in the field of pre-
>17th Century Western Culture. (b) Generally, to engage in research; publish
>material of relevance and interest to the field of pre-17th Century Western
>Culture; to present activities and events which re-create the environment of
>said era, such as, but not limited to, tournaments, jousts, fairs, dances,
>classes, et cetera
>
>Now that is exactly what the period combat studies folks are doing, and
>certainly more so than those of us who fight with rattan and rapier. Some of
>these techniques can probably be transferred to the armored and rapier combat
>fields, as they were used in period.
>
>Kingdom Level:
>Proposed: The earls marshal of the kingdoms become reporting officers with
>the responsibility to coordinate information flow from the deputy earls
>marshal in their kingdoms and to report to the Society Marshal. They also
>have the duties to promote safety by working with their kingdom Chirurgeon
>and
>to promote general equipment standards improvement by working with their
>kingdom Minister of Arts and Sciences.
>
>For a kingdom to participate in a particular activity, it must appoint the
>appropriate deputy earl marshal for that activity. Warrants for a kingdom
>earl marshal are signed by the Crown and the Society Marshal. Warrants for a
>deputy earl marshal are signed by the Crown and the appropriate Deputy
>Society
>Marshal. The reasoning here is to make certain that persons with appropriate
>interest and expertise are overseeing each activity.
>
>Enabling legislation - Corpora is changed as follows: the text of VII
>(Kingdom, Principality, and Local Officers) D (The Earl Marshal) is
>deleted in
>its entirety and replaced with:
> The Earl Marshal is responsible for reporting on activities related to
>combat and archery to the Crown and the Marshal of the Society. This
>includes
>coordinating the reporting from the Deputy Earls Marshal for each activity
>within the kingdom. The Earl Marshal will also work with the Chirurgeon to
>promote safety in the kingdoms martial arts, and with the Minister of Arts
>and Sciences to encourage research in armor and weapons. Further, the Earl
>Marshal will have the responsibility to encourage and promote
>participation in
>combat and archery activities by the membership.
> Deputy Earls Marshal may be appointed for any of the following
>activities: Armored Combat, Rapier Combat, Siege Engines, Archery, Youth
>Combat, and Period Combat Studies. However, none of these activities may be
>performed in the kingdom without an appropriate Deputy Earl Marshal being
>appointed. The Deputy Earls Marshal are responsible for all combat-related
>activities in their respective areas. This includes overseeing the conduct
>and safety of all martial arts in their respective areas, including but not
>limited to tournament lists, wars, practices, and combat demonstrations. The
>Deputy Earls Marshal are also responsible for appointing and warranting
>subordinate marshals for their respective areas.
>
>Corpora VII I. (Duties of Other Officers) is changed to read: Specific
>duties
>of Kingdom Lesser Officers, deputies, Principality Officers, and Local
>Officers are defined by Royalty and the appropriate superior officer unless
>otherwise defined in Corpora.
>
>Corpora VII J. (Appointment to office) 1, add after the first
>sentence: Kingdom Deputy Earls Marshal are appointed by the Crown after due
>consultation with the outgoing officer, the Earl Marshal, and any other
>appropriate Great Officer.
>
>Corpora VII K (Warranting / Rosters) 1, first sentence is changed
>from Kingdom Great Officers appointments are confirmed by a signature from
>the Corporate Level and the Crown, on the standard warrant form.
>to Appointments of Kingdom Great Officers and Deputy Earls Marshal are
>confirmed by a signature from the appropriate Deputy Society Marshal, and the
>Crown, on the standard warrant form.
>
>Again, the purpose here is simply to ensure that people with appropriate
>interest and expertise are in charge of each activity.
>
>The Crown:
>I expect this will actually be the most controversial part of this Proposal.
>First let me say that I have been a member for more than 28 years and a peer
>for nearly 25. I have always endeavored to support my Crown and my Kingdom,
>no matter where I have lived.
>
>When there was only rattan combat, it made sense to have the Sovereign
>oversee
>the fighting. One could safely assume that he (it was always a he then) was
>pretty good at it. Unfortunately, few Sovereigns, are expert in other forms
>of combat activity, and probably none are in all of them. It makes sense,
>therefore, to reduce the responsibility of the Crown for these areas. The
>justification is exactly the same as for the Marshallate.
>
>On the other hand, Im a firm believer in traditions, and am not trying here
>to change the way we select our Crowns.
>
>Therefore, what I am proposing is a compromise between the traditional
>privileges of the Crown and the safety and enjoyment of the membership.
>
>Specifically, Proposed:
>The Sovereign retains final oversight responsibility for rattan combat within
>the kingdom. Oversight responsibilities for other activities devolve to the
>appropriate deputy earl marshal.
>Access to the fighting field, any fighting field, is granted at the pleasure
>of the Sovereign. The Sovereign retains the right to remove any fighter, at
>any time, from any field.
>Rattan combat remains the only formal tournament lists for royal ranks and
>titles, unless a specific exemption is granted by the Board.
>
>Enabling legislation - Corpora is changed as follows: IV (Royalty) A.
>(Selection) 1. Royal Lists must be conducted at a tournament announced in
>the
>kingdom newsletter as being for that purpose. Crowns or Coronets who wish to
>conduct a royal list in a manner other than individual armored combat must
>obtain the prior approval of the Board of Directors.
>
>Corpora IV C (Duties) 9 is changed to read: The Sovereign supervises
>armored
>combat on the field of honor.
>
>Corpora IV C 10 is renumbered as IV C 11.
>
>Corpora IV C (new) 10 is added, as follows: The privilege of access to the
>combat fields, regardless of the type of combat activity being performed, is
>granted at the pleasure of the Sovereign. The Sovereign may remove any
>fighter, at any time, from any tourney or melee combat field, for any period
>of time, up to the duration of the Reign. Such action shall not be construed
>to indicate a safety violation has occurred; no Marshallate action may be
>taken as the result of this exercise of Royal prerogative. Safety violations
>shall be addressed through reports to, and appropriate actions by, the
>Marshallate.
>
>Other Changes
>These are required, mostly for consistency, to complete the proposed
>implementation.
>Proposed:
>
>Corpora IX (Society Combat) A. (Society Combat-Related Activities) 1, first
>sentence is replaced with: Society combat-related activities are defined as
>armored combat, rapier combat, combat archery, marshalling, scouting, banner
>bearing in combat, youth combat, and period combat studies.
>
>Corpora IX A. 2, first paragraph is replaced with: A participant in any of
>the Society combat-related activities as defined above must be authorized
>by a
>marshal warranted and designated by the Deputy Earl Marshal of a kingdom for
>that activity, or his representative, as able to authorize individuals in the
>appropriate activity.
>
>Corpora IX A. 6, is deleted in its entirety and replaced with: Prior to the
>authorization of a minor in any Society combat-related activity, the
>parent or
>guardian of the minor must witness the activity, discuss it with a witnessing
>marshal, and execute a Waiver, indemnity, or other required document for the
>minor. The witnessing marshal must be explicitly authorized to perform this
>function by the Deputy Earl Marshal for Youth Combat of that kingdom. The
>marshal who authorizes a minor person for any form of Society combat-related
>activity must the Kingdom or Principality Deputy Earl Marshal for Youth
>Combat, or the Kingdom or Principality Deputy Earl Marshal for that
>activity.
>This need not be the same person as the witnessing marshal.
>
>Corpora IX B (The Rules of the Lists) 2, is deleted in its entirety and
>replaced with:
> No person shall participate in Combat-Related activities (including
> armored
>combat, rapier combat, combat archery, marshalling, scouting, banner bearing
>in combat, youth combat, and period combat studies) outside of formal
>training
>sessions unless and until he or she shall have been properly authorized under
>Society and kingdom procedures.
>
>Corpora IX C (Rapier Fighting in the Society) is now superfluous and
>therefore
>deleted.
>
>Other Documents
>
>As near as I can determine, no changes to the Articles of Incorporation, By-
>Laws, or Corporate Policies of the SCA, Inc. are required to implement this
>proposal.
>
>Other Considerations
>
>Should the Board of Directors act favorably on this Proposal, presumably
>after
>consultation with the membership, a reasonable amount of time should be given
>for implementation so that the kingdoms have a chance to adjust their
>organizations. Six months seems about right, a year is probably too long.
>
>In Conclusion
>
>My motivation for this Proposal is simple. I am worried about the Society.
>We do not seem to be growing. We do seem to be aging, and a significant
>number of the kids drop out on reaching adulthood. The membership is well
>aware that the organization has financial difficulties.
>
>We also have too much friction. When I joined, I was given to believe that
>the Society was inclusive. There were many, many different activities, and
>people were encouraged and rewarded for excelling in any field of
>interest. I
>continue to believe that should be one our ideals; it may be our very
>greatest
>strength.
>
>Alas, for reasons that completely elude me, I have witnessed, time and again,
>one group trying to restrict the activities of another group. And they
>werent even interested in participating themselves, they just didnt want
>anyone else to do it.
>
>But I also believe that we are a Society that puts a high premium on courtesy
>and on honor. The reason that people stay in the Society for decades is that
>generally the organization brings out the very best in its members.
>
>This proposal is designed to make fighting in the Society safer and more fun
>for everybody. The conclusion is simple. If more people are having more
>fun,
>then the Society is stronger, interest is up, and everybody gains.
>
>Certainly the Field of Honor is big enough for all of us.
>
>And please believe that I remain in Service to the Society, this XXV
>Septembris, A.S. XXXVII.
>
>Bill Colbert (William de Montegilt)
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