[MR] re: announcement from SCA Pres

[logan]

in my four reigns i have only banished one person.  we waited until the
evidence was presented and judgment passed.  regardless of the fact that the
person was banished form another kingdom already and found guilty of some
associated crimes.  we had to wait until innocence was not an option.
during another reign i escorted police to arrest a man for allegedly raping
a women at an event.  we did not move to banish at that time and were
informed later that the charges where dropped and that he didnt do what he
was accused of.

good thing all the gung-ho people were soundly asleep at the time.

regards
logan

ps  funny, ive been accused of things too that have never happened.  the sca
thrives off of bs like that.  this may well be yet another case of some
toads writing letters about guns or whatever.  waiting until the courts
decide and the facts are out there is the only way to proceed.  gorm is 100%
on target with his commentary.

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From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Gorm of Berra
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:26 PM
To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] re: announcement from SCA Pres


Yes, we do, as all states do.

The key, though, is "convicted".  Even if you have pled guilty, you have 
not been "convicted" until the judge accepts the plea, and sentence is
passed.

It is possible that a judge will not accept a guilty plea, if the judge 
believes it was coerced, or is made without knowledge of the consequences, 
or other such things.

It has happened that someone has "pled guilty", and then later been 
exonerated at trial after the judge did not accept the plea.

So, in short, it ain't over until it's over.  And punishments don't take 
effect until it's over and done with.

Now, should the SCA, Inc encourage someone who is in the process of 
pleading guilty to handle children's activities?  No, not at all.  But 
acting to banish someone is potentially premature at that point.  I would 
not blame the monarchs at all for delaying that action until it was obvious 
the process was complete.

Admittedly, I have no children, nor am I likely to, but still, people have 
rights.

Gorm

At 09:39 PM 11/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 11/18/2003 9:29:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>mungoe1 at msn.com writes: This is a difficult thing. I do not want a 
>innocent's reputation ruined due to some emotional overreaction and 
>rumor mongering(Which has happened in our Kingdom). However, under the 
>above circumstance, I would have liked to have know
>about a convicted child molester being in my home a lot sooner then what
>happened.
>I am outraged as well! Don't they have Megan's Laws in your state? In many
>locales, a convicted sex offender *MUST* disclose their criminal history to
>everyone in the neghborhood they live in, and most likely any other house 
>they
>enter.
>
>-David ben Mordechai
>
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