[MR] Re: Troll...

[Stephanie Tietze]

I'm not sure where this all started but I agree with the comments below....I 
see nothing wrong with silly terms. Calling a car a dragon or the check-in 
people trolls always makes me smile. It's just one of those fun things that 
I've associated with our hobby almost as long as I've known about the SCA. I 
may not be a long term member like some of the other's who've responded, but 
I like the humor and would prefer to keep the humor in our kingdom and 
society. Besides, most people don't look for the 'gate'...they ask for the 
'troll' instead.

Piera da Ferrara


Quote:     ViVat for TROLL.


>Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:12:59 -0500
>From: "Elaine Koogler" <ekoogler1 at comcast.net>
>Subject: [MR] Use of the word "Troll"
>To: <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
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>I have absolutely no problem with using the word "Troll" to designate the
>person who welcomes me to an event, checks my membership, etc.  It is, at
>least, a real word.  I have a greater problem with words like 
>"Feast-o-crat"
>or some of the other terms along the same lines that I have heard and am
>hearing more and more recently.  I just plain old don't like constructed
>words...ask my friends...I get touchy over using nouns for verbs and vice
>versa, so this really bugs me.  When I am in charge of cooking a feast, I'm
>the Head Cook.  I would even like to see "autocrat" replaced by
>"Master/Mistress of the Hall" or something similar.  But even that is
>preferable to the made-up words I see being used.
>
>End of rant.
>
>Kiri



>From: Jeanette Gugler <jgugler at mindspring.com>
>Subject: Re: [MR] New name for Troll - taking a toll
>To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
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>IMAO, just because something is not documentably period is not sufficient 
>reason to quit using it in the SCA.  When you arrive at an event, this is 
>the border between your day to day existence (sometimes called "mundane") 
>and the magic, the Dream, we call SCA.  At this point of change, we have a 
>greeter who asks us to sign in and pay our due, our toll.  This is neither 
>in the modern world nor the medieval.  Well, all-in-all, the job is 
>probably more in the modern world.
>
>And that job is long tedious, and often thankless.  If we want to add a bit 
>of fun to this, by calling the job "Troll" or "The Nia" or whatever, it is 
>GOOD.  If you don't like it, you don't have to use the term.  Try to find a 
>term that
>better signifies this task.  So far, none of the terms appear to be quite 
>appropriate.  And there are other areas that should take precedence in our 
>improving our persona.
>
>Don't take away the joy and whimsy.  It's what keeps us young.  [In the 
>middle ages I'd probably be dead.]
>
>Theodora von Schmetterlingswald
>Too often the "responsible person" and not enough one who plays


>Message: 11
>Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:40:46 -0500
>From: "Mazzone, Tracy (Mitchell)" <Tracy.Mazzone at DigitalNet.com>
>Subject: RE: [MR] RE: New name for Troll (This is a Poll)
>To: <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
>Message-ID: <1E589D17535F1A4EB4EC852DDDC26BC241216F at vahqex1.gfgsi.com>
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>At the risk of getting into the impending fray, I have to agree that I
>like Troll (even though I personally know several people who don't).
>Everyone, everywhere in the SCA knows what the Troll is and asks for
>it/heads for it as soon as they reach an event.  Changing the name
>within Atlantia might make us more period but it would only serve to
>confuse those from other Kingdoms where the name will still be widely
>known and used.  To me, it's not very friendly or welcoming to have to
>correct a visitor from another Kingdom on what we consider "proper"
>terms as soon as they arrive at an event and before they've even entered
>it, especially when the rest of the Known World is using a different
>term.
>
>I also have to agree that the very name and the images it brings forth
>make me smile and what better way is there to enter an event than
>smiling?
>
>Jut my 2 cents...
>
>Yours In Service,
>Lady Cicilia Tironi
>Barony of Lochmere
>Kingdom Deputy for Waterbearing
>Deputy Chatelaine
>
>"Purpure, a schnecke issuant from dexter chief argent, in sinister chief
>an estoile Or"
>

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