[MR] Face Thrusts

Syr Otto von Schwartzkatz RobertEDay at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 2 14:22:12 PDT 2003


If you read the Pensic Marshaling Conventions (
http://www.pennsicwar.org/penn32/MARSHAL/PW32Conventions.html#MC ) , the 8th
paragraph answers this question.
"Marshals have the power and the duty to remove from battle any person who
is violating the rules of the list. This includes but is not limited to
non-acceptance of blows, ignoring the rules of engagement and behavior that
is dangerous to combatants. Marshals should keep in mind that all fighters
are honorable people and treat them with courtesy and patience. Remember
that honest mistakes do happen. Fighters should remember that the marshals
are attempting to ensure the safety of all fighters present and treat them
with courtesy. Marshals shall always be obeyed during the battle."

Although this rule has been in effect for as long as I have been fighting at
Pennsic, it's application varies from year to year.

Otto

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Valen Ravenwood" <Valen.Ravenwood at starband.net>
To: <Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: [MR] Face Thrusts


> Are the Pennsic marshals also going to be watching for people not calling
> "touch" face thrusts.  I believe that lack of acceptance of a touch has
been
> the prime cause of excessive force.
>
> Just curious.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of Siegfried
> Sebastian Faust
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:53 PM
> To: highland-foorde at atlantia.sca.org; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [MR] Face Thrusts
>
>
>
> Found on the Pennsic Web Page, from the Society Earl Marshal:
>
> > From the Society Earl Marshal:
> >I have declared personal war on excessive force face thrusts. Simply put,
> >they are illegal and will not be tolerated beyond " one off " incidents.
> >Ignorance will not serve as a shield. Directed Touch has been, and is
> >still, the SCA standard and will be enforced. I am not disposed to
discuss
> >the definition nor compromise with standards in other kingdoms that have
> >allowed harder than a touch for face thrusting.
>
> And in response:
>
> > From the Marshal-In-Charge of Pennsic:
> >In order to comply with the above statement from the Society Earl
Marshal,
> >the Marshals overseeing the Pennsic battles will be instructed to watch
> >for and take immediate steps to remove any offenders.
>
> So be careful with your face thrusting in general (as this is a 'general'
> ruling, not just a Pennsic ruling).
>
> Siegfried



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