[MR] surcoat and Torse

[james barker]

Just an add on to the reply that already went out on the issue. As stated 
personal heraldry and a badge are 2 separate things. During the war of the 
roses you would wear a livery coat for your lord and a sash of sorts with 
the king or disputed king your lord is fighting for. So wearing a livery 
coat on the field during war would be most appropriate and wearing your 
heraldry during tournaments would be the best to do.

Then again you can quarter it the any way you chose because this is the SCA 
:)


James de Biblesworth










From: "Stan Harmon" <stan_harmon at hotmail.com>
To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: [MR] surcoat and Torse
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:02:35 +0000


   A surcoat that has your device and badge quartered on it.  How is it 
displayed?  Device on the 1st and 4th and badge on the 2cd and 3rd?  and the 
badge since it is a Roundel, does it need to be so on the sourcoat or can it 
be displayed to cover the entire area of the quater it is in?  The torse as 
I understand it should be the major colors of the field.  However, I have 
seen some cases where it has been a color of the field and a color of the 
major device.  Is this exceptable?   Thanks for your input.


In your service
Lord Galen Storm

The secret to fencing consists of two things: to give and to not 
receive....Moliere [Jean Baptiste Poquelin] (1622-1673), French...

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