[MR] [HERALDRY] Laurel ACCEPTANCES and CORRECTIONS from February, 2002

Gorm Of Berra gormofberra at earthlink.net
Fri May 3 06:31:09 PDT 2002


Unto the Crown, Peers, and Populace of Atlantia does Gorm of Berra, Golden Dolphin Herald, send greetings:

(Potential apologies for message formatting here, I got them in badly formatted HTML, I have attempted to strip out as much of the offending stuff as possible, but noone's perfect, especially not me)

At his meetings in February, 2002, Laurel King of Arms (and his staff)considered the following items:

Before the acceptances, there are some corrections to previous LOAR's to report:

November, 2001
ATLANTIA
Faílenn inghean Mheanmain. Name correction from Faílenn inghean Mheanmain of Ulster. 
The name was registered in June 2001 without of Ulster.

December, 2001

ATLANTIA
Caitilín Fhionn inghean Fhinn. Name correction from Caitilín Fhionn inghean Fhionn. 
The name was registered as Caitilín Fhionn inghean Fhionn. Further examination of the documentation shows that it was correct as submitted, Caitilín Fhionn inghean Fhinn.

Now on to the Acceptances:

The following items were ACCEPTED and REGISTERED by Laurel.  Their owners may use them without further hinderance or concern:

Agiluf Stahlschmidt. Name. 

Alessandra Tironi. Device. Purpure, three musical notes and a dexter tierce Or. 

Atlantia, Kingdom of. Badge for The King's Guard. (Fieldless) A sea-lion sustaining a sword bendwise sinister Or. 

Avelyn Harris. Name. 

The submitter requested authenticity for 14th C Scot/Irish. As documented, this name is a fine English name. Lacking evidence that either name was used in Ireland or Scotland in the 14th C, it is likely not authentic for the submitter's desired time and culture.

Bohemond Guiscard. Device. Sable, a sunburst Or clouded argent and in chief three prickspurs reversed argent. 

Craig of Atlantia. Holding name and device. Azure, a pithon erect to sinister and on a chief argent three roundels azure. 

These arms were originally submitted under the name Aeschylus Grendel, which was returned on the December 2001 LoAR.

Cynwrig ap Rhys. Alternate name Kenneth Pyke. 

The submitter requested authenticity for England and allowed no changes. As the given name is documented as Scots, this name is not authentic for England.

There was some questio n regarding the plausibility of the spelling Kenneth as a period spelling. Black (p. 393 s.n. Kennethson) dates Alexander Kennethson to 1430. Therefore, Kenneth is a reasonable period spelling.


Dun Carraig, Barony of. Badge. Argent, a pair of compasses and in base a cross bottony all within a bordure embattled gules. 

(Note, the designation of this badge as being for “The Tinkerer’s Guild”  was removed, as Dun Carraig does not have that name registered to itself)

Edmund Sharpe. Device. Vert, a bend sinister argent ermined vert between three ermine spots argent. 

Esm Douglass. Name. 

Evelyn Merry. Name and device. Vert, a butterfly bendwise sinister Or. 

Submitted as Evelyn Merrymet, no documentation was provided and none was found that Merrymet was a phrase used in period. Lacking such documentation, it is not registerable. If such documentation were found, evidence would also be needed that Merrymet would be a plausible "phrase" byname. None of the period examples provided in the LoI included a phrase which had a past tense element. In the example of Welcum found in Reaney & Wilson (p. 480 s.n. Welcome), come is not past tense.

The submitter specifically allowed the byname to be changed to Merry if Merrymet was not registerable. We have made this change.

Generys ferch Ednuyed ap Madauc. Name. 

Gwynaeth Pembroke. Device change. Per bend argent and  sable, a kris inverted bendwise sinister between six roses counterchanged.  

Her previous device, Vert, a kris bendwise sinister inver ted between two domestic cats sejant guardant Or, is released.

Gwynaeth Pembroke. Badge. (Fieldless) A rose per bend  argent and sable overall a kris bendwise sinister per bend sable and argent . 

Hugh de Bardenay. Name. 

Hugh Wallace. Device. Azure, two ladles in saltire and on a chief argent three mullets sable. 

Please advise the submitter to draw the chief wider and all the other charges somewhat larger.

Jasper Wiseman. Name and device. Per chevron inverted  azure and vert, a cat passant guardant and two rapiers Or. 

Jehan Yves de Chateau Thiery. Household name House of  the Two Tigers and badge. Vair, two natural tigers passant counterpassant Or marked sable. 

Johan Krieg. Device. Sable, a dragon passant argent and a bordure embattled argent crusilly bottony sable. 

Kateryn Rous. Badge. Gules, a fleur-de-lys between four crescents in cross horns to center and conjoined at the tips argent.  

Kyneburh Boithuile and Ragnarr Blackhammer. Joint badge. (Fieldless) On a quatrefoil per bend azure and sable a lion rampant Or.  

Laura de Givet. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Or, two rapiers in saltire sable overall a rose proper and a chief sable. 

Submitted under the name Belphoebe de Givet. 

Luce Anthony Venus. Device. Per pale gules and azure, a pegasus couchant and on a chief argent three delfs azure. 

Maeve Flannery. Name. 

Michael of Lochmere. Holding name and device. Vair, on a fess sable three seeblatter Or. 

Submitted under the name  Michel von Schonsee, the submitter's name was returned in December 2001 for lack of forms. The name has been resubmitted and we have received the forms. Since the name form indicates that the submitter will accept a holding name, we are able to register this device with a holding name.

Muirenn ingen Dara. Device. Vert, a fess between three acorns Or. 

Randolf Garard. Name and device. Azure, a wolf statant and on a chief embattled argent five card piques vert and on a mount argent a card pique vert. 

Please advise the submitter to draw the device so that the chief is larger, the mount is smaller, and the card piques fill the available space.

Rivkah bat Zakkai. Name and device. Argent, a sun gules overall a pall arrondy sable. 

Seamus mac Inneirghe. Name and device (see RETURNS for badge). Argent, three roses and on a chief indented fleury at the base points vert a rapier reversed argent. 

Sylvanus Perrin. Badge. (Fieldless) A rhinoceros statant argent. 

Tahir the Mad. Name (see PENDS for device). 

Theodora Delamore. Badge. (Fieldless) Three ivy leaves conjoined in pall argent. 

Ulric von Vohburg. Name change from Ulric the Fox. 

His previous name, Ulric the Fox, is retained as an alternate name.

Yseulte Trevelyn. Device change. Gules, three fountains. 

Nice device! Her previous device, Gules, a lioness ram pant guardant contourny argent between two flaunches barry wavy azure and a rgent, is released.

Yseulte Trevelyn. Badge. (Fieldless) A saltcellar shedding salt argent. 

Nice badge! And given the period canting badge of a daisy (also known as a marguerite) for someone with the given name Marguerite, quite appropriate. (It makes sense that canting badges, which are personal, might refer to the given name, while canting arms, which apply to whole families of people with different given names, apply to the surname.)

According to the Pictorial Dictionary, when a saltcellar is drawn shedding salt, the salt must be explicitly blazoned, and so we have added that information into the blazon. We wish the submitter better luck than we had in clearly enunciating the phrase "Yseulte's saltcellar shedding salt by the seashore".

In Service,

Gorm of Berra
Golden Dolphin Herald



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