[MR] Re: Women and the Early Church

[rujoking99 at mac.com]

If I had said, "The Taira family is a load of idiots and pansies," I 
would be stating a clearly biased opinion.  But if I said, "The Minamoto 
hated the Taira and wanted to kill them," I would be stating a fact.  
Eogan is stating facts about what other people believed in the past.  If 
he had said, "You all are heretical," he would be biased.  But he is 
giving us the definition of heresy, and stating what other people felt 
was heretical.  To the Catholic Church, what went against the teachings 
of the Church was Heretical.  He is not saying that the teachings of the 
Church were right or wrong, merely that what went against them in period 
was considered by religious authorities (the ordained people in the 
Church) in period to be Heretical.  And if one bishop disagreed with 
another, whoever went against the teachings of the Church was 
heretical.  The heretical bishop may be right, but according to the 
definition of Heresy, he was heretical.  Galileo was correct, but 
because he said things that went against the Church, he was heretical.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled listserv.

Kinoshita Yoshimori
Chris Gregory
Barony of Black Diamond