[MR] RE: Atlantia digest, Vol 1 #611 - 6 msgs

[Rupert Gaddy]

I would think that heresy in particular but the other terms as well would be
rather subjective depending on one's position.

I think Waldo would have thought the RCC heretical in the sense they were
ignorant of the "true creed".

Certainly John Calvin made the charge of heretical view against the church,
basically calling the entire Council of Trent heretics...and in particular
attacking their acceptance and reliance on the Vulgate as ignorance of the
worst kind.

Certainly Luther would have felt justified.....

When one adds the question of by what authority....tradition or solo
scriptoria or some combination?, then one muddies the waters even farther.

Since as has been pointed out, the church doctrines have not been static,
rather an evolution, one must define these terms in a specific time period
as well (sometimes a very brief time period indeed) Take for example the
Female Pope, the requirement for single (non married state)of the priest,
and other doctrines that have changed rapidly within our period of study.
One must also include the Mary issues in this as well.

What was "the true faith" and "standard doctrine" is dependant on the
viewer, and the time period.

As a late period protestant persona, I fear being burned at the stake for my
"heresy" when ever someone starts talking of such things as "correct
doctrine"......I am just as glad I have fled to Geneva where I am in the
majority and get to burn Catholics (actually not done, banishment seems to
work as well) rather than be on the receiving end.

In fact these very questions, as well as type of worship have always killed
any major camp plans by those on the SCA4Jesua group.

Perhaps we should leave such questions in the modern day, were we are more
tolerant of differences.

Rupert the Persistent