[MR] Re: Queen's Arms

[Rowanwald Central]

Logan wrote:
> perhaps the comment was true though?  perhaps the queen,
> in which you mention without verifiable fact, could not have won
> a  crown tourney.  then the comment was somehow bad?  true
> but bad?  or was the comment that in general no atlantian woman
>  could ever win the crown by her own skill at arms?  if thats the case
> i would beg to ask for some more female students.
> 8^)

PLEASE correct me if I misunderstood you, Logan, but are you saying that you
*agree* that the statement "It's appropriate because that's the only way she
ever gets to win the throne anyway" is acceptable as a statement aimed at
any of our Queens??? That you don't understand that it could be _bad_?!?!

I am stunned. I hope it's only because I misread what you wrote. And are you
challenging me to provide the name of the King who said it and the queen he
was referring to? In order to what? Say it was OK and true because she's not
a fighter? Does it make me a liar if I don't? I need to besmurch the person
by name for "verifiable fact"?

No Way. Call me a liar if you want, I'm not spreading on this List. Enough
people were there to hear the shameful comment when it was made - since it
was an aside at a Curia. I will contact you in private if you really want to
know who said it. But the person saying it is less of an issue, in my mind,
than the fact that he said it expecting not to be contradicted or that
anyone should find it insulting. If my children were to refer to me as a
body part, I'd wash their mouths out with soap. I expect no less respect for
the office of our Queen. Further, I expect the Peerage, particularily the
Knighthood, to protect Her Honor and Dignity.

> i dont personally see how someones commentary such as you
>  have commented on below should have any bearing on what
>  people have to say about anyone if you
> know them to be different from the claim or take the time to hear out all
> sides.  i certainly dont understand the attempted correlation of the two
> topics.

The device, to put it bluntly, is a euphemism, and not a loving one, of a
woman's most private body part. That you don't understand the correlation
between the degrading symbology that it has in the modern world and the
dislike that I have for making it the symbol of the Premier Lady of our
Kingdom and the embodiment of Grace and Courtesy confuses me.

Do you *want* your Queen to be symbolized by that? I was assuming she's a
friend and someone you honor.

In tired and probably too-outspoken distress,
Rosine
--
Nobility depends not on parentage or place of birth,
but on breadth of compassion and depth of loving-kindness.
If we would be noble, let us be great-hearted.
rowanwald at sybercom.net