[MR] Comments on Proposed revision of Corpora IV.A.1.

[Logan]

i have never personally heard anyone mention paying off people for crown.
can you cite an example of anyone actually being concerned about someone
forking over money to keep someone from fighting.  if you have, please
direct them to me so i can ask why i never rated enough to get some money!

also, it is not an attempt to make a tradition a law but simply to clarify
one.

regards
logan

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Subject: Re: [MR] Comments on Proposed revision of Corpora IV.A.1.



I have consistently heard this arguement parroted over the past few days.

"If we don't make single combat the law, then someone will have a melee and
pay off people to win."

What's stopping someone from doing that in single combat? Chivalry? So where
does the difference come in, only after it's a melee, not when it's a
singles tourney?

Would you answer it as a matter of numbers, as in how many people you have
to pay off? It does not even have to be monetary compensation, there are any
numbers of ways to buy someone off, favors, promisaries on future endeavors,
the list goes on.

So what else keeps someone from "paying" for the crown. Single combat has
too many contestants? Buy off the ones you have to worry about, and run over
the rest.

What stops someone from doing this in a melee that does not stop them then
in single tourney?

Does anyone have proof that this kind of thing has happened before? Not
hearsay, not supposition, proof that a society member, given the situation,
in attempt to ensure they will sit the crown, have done something so
unchivilrous? If they have, why haven't they been brought before an inquiry?

Not only does this bring into question the honor of the person who is paying
for the crown, but also the people he is paying off? When you make the
supposed allegations about a strong fighter paying off a number of people
for their support, you also question the honor of any and every fighter on
the field.

Some call heavy fighting "Chivalrous Combat." That is not to say other forms
of fighting are less than honorable, however. The connotation added though,
to many, is that becuase we fight with such a form, we have to live up to
the ideal honorable accord (and isn't that what we are really looking for in
our Royals?).


The change to corpora does two things:

 1- Takes a tradition and makes it law
 2- Removes one facet of our "Creative" anachronism.

Futher, just becuase we have the choice to hold multiple kinds of crown
tourneys, doesn't mean a given kingdom will. It is always nice to have the
choice availible, if not always required.


Vels
Shield-Grunt, with little political aspiration
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