[MR] Comments on Proposed revision of Corpora IV.A.1.

Dryw AFREED at prodigy.net
Sat Feb 2 13:02:55 PST 2002


Just a tiny additional note on the subject of fun from a non-fighter.
Personally, I find single combat the most fun to watch.  Even teams of two
or three can be distracting and cause you to miss something really great one
team member does if you happen to be focused on the other at the wrong
moment.  I know we're not designing our Crown Tourneys around the viewing
preferences of the populace,  but since the question of boredom was raised,
I had to disagree.  And I would say this is not just me.  By the end of a
Crown Tourney, you could hear a pin drop, which suggests to me that the
spectators are intent on the action and not at all bored.  Like I said, it's
maybe not an IMPORTANT perspective, but it is my opinion, for what that's
worth!

Dryw

----- Original Message -----
From: Logan <dukelogan at directvinternet.com>
To: <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [MR] Comments on Proposed revision of Corpora IV.A.1.


> creating a crown list in which the heir is he who wins a popularity
contest
> allows for nothing save politics.  removing the pressure and weight of
> single combat between honorable men to allow team melee also removes the
> heroic accomplishments that a crown victory provides.  additionally you
> would also need to pick out and discriminate individuals and disallow
their
> participation in crowns or run the very real possibility of a select few
> deciding who the next 13 kings shall be.  picture in your mind a friendly
> game of darts between michael, logan, anton, cuan and havorc (or whomever,
> im just using names i see fit) in which we all fight for the winner in the
> next crown.  then we do it again in 6 months.  that situation would be a
> real possibility in any and every kingdom that adopted such an idea.  wow
> that would be fun.
>
> single combat fights are also easier to manage whereas a field of 10 men
> fighting over such an emotional issue as crown would have a dramatically
> increased possibility of being somewhat "ugly".  and then what?  what if
one
> guy steps over the line during this popularity contest to ensure victory
for
> his buddy.  how do you punish that behavior?  it also removes the heroic
> atmosphere that the best man won the day on his courage and abilities and
> will leave many feeling as though they have been handed a plastic leader,
> one who accomplished nothing without the aid of his friends.
>
> no thanks, sounds 'unfun' to me and reeks of politics.  the same can be
said
> about most any form that is not single combat, which is far from boring in
> my opinion.
>
> regards,
>
> logan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-admin at atlantia.sca.org]On Behalf Of David W. James
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [MR] Comments on Proposed revision of Corpora IV.A.1.
>
>
> [ The following are my comments to the Board concerning a
> proposed change to
> Corpora.  Commentary by the members and interested parties is
> requested and
> may be sent until July 1, 2002.  The proposal (at
> http://www.sca.org/BOD/announcements/royal-lists.html) is:
>
> Proposed revision of Corpora IV.A.1.
>
> The Board requests commentary from the membership regarding
> the following
> proposed revision of Corpora IV.A.1.:
>
> Change from: "Royal Lists must be conducted at a tournament
> announced in the
> kingdom newsletter as being for that purpose."
>
> Change to: "Royal Lists must be conducted at a tournament
> announced in the
> kingdom newsletter as being for that purpose. All Combat in
> Royal Lists must
> be single combat."
>
> Please send your comments no later than July 1, 2002, to
> Corpora Revision,
> SCA Inc., Box 360789, Milpitas, CA 95036, or email comments at sca.org.
> ]
>
> I would like to register my strong disapproval of this proposed
> change to Corpora.
>
> The format of Crown Tourney is disgustingly mundane as it is usually
> held, and this does nothing to address that.  It removes an avenue
> for expression of Kingdom policy, individuality and possibly even
> growth and improvement.
>
> I would be surprised if allowing tournament forms other than single
> combat, if they were used, did not result in an increase in
> participants in Crown Tourney, with a resulting feeling of greater
> participation and satisfaction with the process used to select our
> rulers.  Tournaments where the actual entrant for the Crown was
> leader of a team of 2-5 fighters, for example, is one possible avenue
> that this would eliminate that I believe would be entirely fair and
> as equitable as single combat.  Doubtless there are other alternative
> methods that would be equally fair and reasonable.
>
> I just as strongly support selection of the Crown's successors by
> chivalric combat alone.  This is one of the defining characteristics
> of the SCA, and is strongly tied to our unique charm.  But lets try
> not to start down the road that has us restricted to yet another
> boring, ahistorical double-elim tourney.
>
> David W. James
> Lord Kwellend-Njal Kollskeggsson
> Atlantia
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