[MR] definitions

Logan dukelogan at directvinternet.com
Sun Feb 3 10:20:27 PST 2002


picking a definition and deciding that the author feels the way you want him
to doesnt really make much sense.  my usage of the term asinine was directed
at the statement and not the individual.  "complacently or inanely foolish"
is the definition that fits my feelings on the matter and not the reference
to "of, relating to, or resembling an ass".   before casting the stone i
think its better to verify which variant we are using.

and perhaps i would not be labeled as somehow lacking the goodly virtues of
a knight or that of courteous speech had i said "to show that you can form,
train, inspire, pay, whatever a group of fighters to somehow prove you are
a better leader is also silly".  then again, perhaps if i had said nothing
at all i would have been safe?  i was merely trying to engage in thought
provoking conversation about a subject that has meaning to me and one in
which i can speak intelligently from due to experience.  either way, i still
think the concept of leadership ability being proven by how many guys you
can bring to the field is, in a word, silly.

regards
logan

-----Original Message-----
From: Vernon L. Willet, Jr. [mailto:willets at bellatlantic.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:39 PM
To: Logan
Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Comments on Proposed revision of Corpora IV.A.1.


Logan wrote:
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> we are not living in the middle ages.

Indeed, Your Grace, we are not.  In the Middle Ages, few made any real
attempt to exemplify Courtesy, outside of Literature.  Chivalry was also
a literary concept, rarely seen in real life.  The SCA is a lovely
fantasy, in which we (allegedly) strive to show ourselves Courteous,
Chivalrous (sp?) and Noble in deed and word.  At least, this was the
Pary Line when I joined.  I have noticed, of late, a certain retreat
from that position.  We seem to be becoming more period all the time.
That is too bad.
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> to show that you can form, train, inspire, pay, whatever a group of
fighters
> to somehow prove you are  a better leader is also asinine.

This statement is an example of my previous point.  If you disagree with
Lord Lyon's position, that is your right.  And it is your right to say
so in a public forum.  But the ideal of Courtesy is not well served by
labelling opinions which differ from your own as "bearing strong
likeness to those of a donkey".  Royal peers are the example to which
the rest of us strive.  So too with the Chivalry, in particular.
Increasingly I find those people held up as role models to not fit my
idea of Exemplars of the Ideals of the Society.  This is probably my
failing.

Your Grace, it is not my intent to single you out for criticism.  I have
always enjoyed your reigns for their emphasis on fun as a goal.  It is
simply that I begin to despair for the role of Courtesy and the Knightly
Virtues when one such as yourself fall prey to the pervasive trend
toward self expression at the expense of Coureous Speech.  I, too, offer
the truth as I see it.  Political suicide seems to be my hobby.

I have the honor to be, In Service to My Dream,
Werhener




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