[MR] A&S Questions

Betty Eyer betty_eyer at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 6 08:45:13 PDT 2001


The lady in question has contacted me and is pointing
me to good documentation on hats and gypsys, for which
I thank her.  The competition itself was very hurried
due to scheduling issues and I think that was really
the problem.  However, I hope that this dialogue can
help improve the quality of the competition experience
for others.


--- Pat <ogaullee at home.com> wrote:
> This is fair comment.  Unfortunately this sort of
> judgmental remark is more
> often the case than not.  It is quite a disservice
> to people who sincerely
> spend hours of painstaking work putting together an
> exhibit with
> documentation.
> 
> We have some very gifted people in the SCA and I
> think it is unfortunate to
> trivialize their efforts with this sort of
> thoughtless "critique."  It is
> certainly no encouragement to future exhibitors.
> 
> Mali O'Gaul-Lee
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Betty Eyer" <betty_eyer at yahoo.com>
> To: "Terry L. Neill" <t_neill at hotmail.com>;
> <Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Re: [MR] A&S Questions
> 
> 
> > Speaking of which...
> >
> > There was a hat competition during the reign of
> > Stephan and Niobe.  I entered it with a veil
> wrapped
> > padded roll.  I had a little booklet of
> documentation
> > including mostly northern school paintings and one
> > perticular "descent from the cross" that had lots
> of
> > flemish ladies all wearing hats.  One of the
> judges
> > (and they were all female) wrote nothing on the
> > comment sheet except something like "The lady in
> the
> > descent from the cross painting is a gypsy".  She
> did
> > not indicate who she was.
> >
> > This comment frustrated me immensely, and I would
> love
> > to hear more.  Because of timing issues at the
> event,
> > the whole competition closed and dispersed rather
> > quickly after judging to make way for court, so I
> was
> > never able to find out who made the comment.
> Questions
> > came to mind like: "Huh?", and "Does that
> disqualify
> > my entry as a period hat or this painting as valid
> > documentation?",  "Of all the work that I did, why
> was
> > that the only thing you felt that you should
> comment
> > on.", "Which lady, there are 5 or more in this
> > painting all wearing hats???",  "Where do you get
> > documentation about gypsy's and what makes you
> think
> > there is one in this picture?", "Am I supposed to
> > learn something about hats from that comment and
> if
> > so, what???" "Why would Van der Weyden put a gypsy
> in
> > a very religious painting?".   So if that is you,
> > please contact me cause I am still very curious on
> > this gypsy/hat question.
> >
> > Magdalena
> > --- "Terry L. Neill" <t_neill at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >From: "Martha Wallenhorst" <lghthse at gte.net>
> > >
> > > >There are times when knowing the judges can be
> very
> > > important,
> > >
> > >
> > > I am of the opinion that there should be no
> > > circumstances where either the
> > > judge or a commenter is anonymous.
> > >
> > > Anyone commenting on a piece should sign his or
> her
> > > name--or don't leave the
> > > coment.
> > >
> > > All judges should be known to all competitors.
> > >
> > > Regards!
> > >
> > > - Anarra
> > >
> > >
> >
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Magdalena de Hazebrouck-Purpure, a fess fusilly argent between three torches or. While Joshua was near Jericho, he raised his eyes and saw one who stood facing him, drawn sword in hand.  Joshua went up to him and asked "Are you one of us or of our enemies?" He replied, "Neither.  I am the captain of the host of the Lord and I have just arrived in this valley." Joshua 5, 13-14.

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