[MR] Celtic origin...?

[Towey, Brian]

Some years ago, I had the pleasure to get to know Dr. Carole Crumley from
the Department of Anthropology at UNC Chapel Hill when she was on my wife's
thesis committee.  Carole has one of the best jobs I have ever heard of.  In
addition to studying ancient climate and land use in southern Burgundy, she
makes a profession of hanging out in rural French bars, drinking wine and
gleaning Iron Age Celtic survivals from the locals.  She told me that the
common impression was that Celtic peoples had been pushed west, but that
they had really been "rolled over" instead.  From May Day celebrations to
music and dance, she has found many continuous traditions from the earlier
civilization.  For example, Dr. Crumley grew up in Tennessee, steeped in a
bluegrass-and-clogging culture.  In rural Burgundy, she told me, the farmers
dance to different tunes, but she didn't have to learn any new steps.
Fascinating stuff.

OK, I have heard of one guy who has an even better job.  He does
ethnographic studies of Carnival and Mardi Gras celebrations, and uses grant
money to jet to Rio and Aruba and such for big street parties.  What a life!

-BT

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Olwen the Odd [SMTP:olwentheodd at hotmail.com]
> Sent:	Friday, October 26, 2001 10:07 AM
> To:	Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject:	[MR] Celtic origin...?
> 
> Ahh...another view.
> 
> Lady Olwen the Odd
> >From: "Laura C. Minnick" <lcm at efn.org>
> >Reply-To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
> >To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
> >Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Celtic origin...?
> >Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:36:32 -0700
> >
> >
> >
> >Druighad at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/25/01 2:13:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > > olwentheodd at hotmail.com writes:
> > >
> > > << This is a topic of discussion on the Merry Rose.  I too was 
> >interested as I
> > >  cann't figure out the connection between the french and the celts 
> >busides
> > >  kissing cousins.
> > >  Olwen
> > >   >>
> > >
> > > Very much OT Olwen, but the Celtoi were one of the first peoples to 
> >settle in
> > > Gaul(France). The Brittany people still speak a dialect of gaelic, and
> 
> >the
> > > Celtoi influenced that cooking a great deal, or so it's been surmised.
> > >
> > > the Gauls that Ceasar fought were the ancestors of the modern French.
> >
> >Yes- you are quite right- however, I would suspect that the MR
> >discussion is not truly on Celts, but on Scots-Irish peoples form later
> >period. Most people misuse the term Celt. I'm sure you are aware of
> >that.
> >
> >That said, the Scots and the French had a long relationship frequently
> >known as the 'Auld Alliance', which dates into the 9th c, IIRC. By the
> >11th c they were swapping daughters for marriage arrangments. And often
> >times harried the English by coordinating attacks (such as during the
> >Great Rebellion of 1173-74, in which William the Lion of Scotland and
> >Louis of France teamed with Henry II's sons in an attempt to oust him).
> >And many other things, of course. Mary Queen of Scots was once Queen of
> >France, you know. Briefly. Then she went home and married Darnley. Bad
> >idea.
> >
> >Don't really know why they had this tie. Maybe the French had a thing
> >about sheep too, and couldn't admit it at home. ;-)
> >
> >'Lainie
> 
> 
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