[MR] G.o.A. Collars?

[lisa brennan-webb]

> > >Actually, regarding Collars of Estate, waaay back (when rocks were 
>soft),
> > >Wilhelm von Schlussel was the Laurel King of Arms. He formally stated 
>that
> > >Collars of Estate were reserved to those holding arms by Grant or 
>Patent.
> > >That reservation is not an Atlantian sumptuary rle, but nominally a 
>Society
> > >one.
> >
> > Sigh.
> >
> > My apologies for incorrect information.  I thumbed through a few 
>documents
> > before replying; obviously not the right ones!
> >
> > Off to do more thumbing.
>
>It gets better, actually. Blaise and I went through part of the
>Morsulus hoard of LOARs last night, and found that Wilhelm
>giveth, and Wilhelm taketh away.
>
>At one point, he put forth the idea that GoAs can use the
>Lancastrian collar of ss. A good rendition of this collar can be
>seen at: http://www.cin.org/farmor.html (The Tudors, in their
>push to establish themselves as the legit heirs of the Tudors,
>also used the collar). However, in a later LOAR, Wilhelm
>backtracks, saying that the collar of ss is clearly something
>identified with the English royal house, and says that each
>kingdom ought to come up with a special collar of their own. At
>present, Atlantian law says nothing about a collar. OTOH, Blaise
>and I aren't *quite* through Wilhelm's letters yet, so he may
>have said something else; everyone after him, by and large, has
>their cover letters webbed, and Blaise has already searched
>those to no avail.

While this has been a fascinating discussion, and most educational, I can't 
help but be curious... the original post asked if anyone knew of any 
artisans who would cast the pieces for said collars, and I must have missed 
the response to that one... Elspeth, who would like to see about actually 
making a collar of state...
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