<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>This also can be talked over more at Unevent.</div><div><br></div><div>Ivarr</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: neacalban1@aol.com </div><div>Date: 10/26/18 11:41 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: ladygreenleafe@gmail.com, vaarstj@hotmail.com </div><div>Cc: seamusmcray@gmail.com, pjdarby@verizon.net, archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org </div><div>Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlatl </div><div><br></div></div><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">
<div> <font size="2">Makes sense to me. <br>
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From: Lorelei Elkins <ladygreenleafe@gmail.com><br>
To: jeff <vaarstj@hotmail.com><br>
Cc: JAMES FRAILEY <seamusmcray@gmail.com>; Peter Darby <pjdarby@verizon.net>; Archers <archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org><br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 1:40 PM jeff <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vaarstj@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vaarstj@hotmail.com">vaarstj@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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I agree with your assessment. Wooden/bamboo darts with feathers. A composite atlatl equates to a composite bow. As for straightening and throwing, I've seen little difference between straight and crooked darts. Points extend the life of the dart, but they'll
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<b>Subject:</b> [Archers] Atlatl</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Greetings Atlantian Archers. It has come to my attention that there are very little guidelines about Atlatl and equipment documented. Also I see that there is some marketing of Atlatl equipment from such sources as 3-River Archery. (<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv2260657223m_7710885446903486264x_gmail-m_-7148329242143515513moz-txt-link-freetext" style="font-family:Arial;" target="_blank" href="https://www.3riversarchery.com/carbon-express-atlatl-kit.html">https://www.3riversarchery.com/carbon-express-atlatl-kit.html</a>)
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<div>My opinion is I am OK with modern material for Atlatls but I am not OK with modern materials such as carbon darts. I view this the same way we allow modern material for bows and not arrows. My suggestion below for our Target Archery Handbook.</div>
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• Inspection of equipment will in general be the same as for archery equipment.</div>
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• Atlatls and darts should be constructed to resemble materials and equipment that existed in-period. Natural materials like wood and bamboo are recommended. In the Kingdom of Atlantia, darts cannot be used that are made of carbon fiber or any other modern
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• Darts should be reasonably straight with fletches of feathers, paper, or leather. Points are optional, but if used must be securely fastened to the dart.</div>
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• The atlatl itself will be smooth and free of cracks, warps, and bends so as not to endanger the user or others."</div>
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<div>So, since I am not King, Queen or the Earl Marshal I am not the last say in this. I welcome all reasonable dialog in regards to crafting guidelines. Please contribute especially those with expertise with this equipment.peter</div>
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<div>I look forward to some dialog over this matter. Thank you.<br clear="none">
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