<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I'm only now getting caught up on all of the TA and EQ email reading. As Knights Marshal for Sacred Stone, I suggested (strongly) that our Equestrian Marshals take the Target Archery marshals Class if they plan to do any horse archery. That has been accomplished. Baroness Beatrice, our Baronial Equestrian Marshal will also become an archery marshal. I happen to think this is the best path. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">There are other issues within the Equestrian community that they need to work through, but they are just starting out like we were years ago, they'll figure it all out eventually. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Lorelei</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 5:08 PM, John Atkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" target="_blank">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I think Lady Esa has hit on the correct answer here. I don’t know any in the TA community that would NOT want EQTA as an activity. However, as Lady Esa points out, many, if not most, of us TA marshals are not familiar with the EQ requirements. I don’t mean just the EQTA I mean the EQ other stuff they do and requirements for them to do “their thing” safely but those aspects that would affect EQTA. To say this a bit more boldly, I think BOTH communities would benefit from including EQTA in activities offered at events, done in a safe manner.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Now that said, I am still in favor of some written rules and procedures for doing EQTA safely. For example, I see their overshoot safety zones to be considerably different than those for TA for several reasons. To help clarify my thoughts here, I see videos of Kasai shooting from horseback while his horse runs down a path. His first shot is forward, second to his side and third to his rear. Very cool! But it does involve a safety zone significantly different from that for TA. May I suggest that a person from the TA community and a person from the EQ community work together to create rules and procedures that can be submitted for review (a standard process we went through when atlatl was introduced to Atlantia).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">My two cents worth,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Christophe of Grey<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Archers [mailto:<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Esa inghean Donnchaidh<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 144, Issue 22<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Greetings Brothers and Sisters of the Bow,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">What I have to add to the conversation may or may not be of value, but what the heck...<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">As TA Range Marshal at Stierbach Baronial Birthday this past June we had plans for mounted archery (the EQTA only got cut due to time constraints when court was moved up significantly, not because of any safety issues or other issues from EQ or TA). The way EQTA was incorporated was a joint venture between myself the event EQ marshal who also happens to shoot archery (although not a TA marshal). <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Regarding the question of disagreement between the EQ marshal and the TA marshal on the range.... The way her and I set out to run the range was to set up my archery range with lanes for EQ. She advised on the lanes and their EQ specific safety zones. I then backed that into my TA range and my safety zones. Her and I discussed and agreed that she would be the EQ marshal present and I would be the TA marshal present. Meaning, if I saw a TA safety issue, I called it. Being ignorant of EQ regulations, she was responsible for calling EQ issues or holds (clearly, anyone can call a hold, but the buck stopped with her and I). We also agreed ahead of time that the horses and riders being guests on the TA range meant that *my* say was final on *my* range. I did not foresee any major issues, because her and I are both safety conscious, and I am confident we would have erred on the side of caution and backed each other up. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">All of that said, I would like to see an add-on to the marshal classes for both TA and EQ that bring in the other discipline to get a safety 101 on each other's art for just such events so that I would have been informed and knowledgeable about the calls she would be making regarding the horses and vice versa. I do not feel I need to get a warrant in EQ to assist with EQTA, BUT taking the safety class would sure be helpful. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Maybe taking the safety class and passing the test but not doing three events is a happy-medium for cross-discipline safety training? <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Yours in Service,<br><b><i>Lady Esa inghean Donnchaidh </i></b><br>Chancellor of the Exchequer of the fair Canton of Abhainn Iarthair</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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