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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Absolute agreement. If they so desperately want to do this activity then THEY need to put more energy into it than simply bringing their horses to events!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>cog<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> jaynardone@comcast.net [mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Atkins<br><b>Cc:</b> archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Equestrian Archery<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Once again I am in agreement with you but have yet to see anything serious from that community. I know some others in our community have also seen and have concerns as well. I dont want to wait for that day to come and allow the "grey" area to continue while we wait. If I need to put together a set of rules this fall, then that will be something we do together and get it going so at least we have something to follow collectively. If "they" dont like it, then I challenge them to come up with that set you speak of and present it to me and us collectively. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Janyn<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=zwchr></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>"John Atkins" <<a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>><br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:59:16 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Archers] Equestrian Archery<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I think, as I advised the equestrian community, THEY need to submit a set of rules for doing archery at events. At present they pass it off as “the world picking on us”. Let me just say as the Loch Normal Highland Games Longbow Champion that the SCA is VERY SERIOUS ABOUT SAFETY on the range. At the highland games we all were warming up, including the one running the shoot. Then he simply leaned forward, looked down both sides of the line and said “Done?’. Then we all walked down to get our arrows. Of course I dropped my bow but was THE ONLY ONE DOING SO! The SCA is very safety conscious. The equestrian folks need to understand this and play along with the rest of us. They are not special snowflakes who get so side step safety precautions. Sorry about that.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>cog</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Jay Nardone [<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'John Atkins'; 'Janyn Fletcher'; 'Garth Groff'; <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Archers] Equestrian Archery</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>John, thank you for your words and I agree completely with your proposal. I agree and would accept that at least someone involved in the equestrian activity be an archery marshal. I would accept that. I also think we could flag in our system who those marshals are. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My concern is that so far at most equestrian events I have attended, this has not happened. I have seen the very behavior you described with bows at 45 degrees nocked and drawn, archers bouncing around with bows drawn not pointed down range and my most worrisome is that the equestrian folks come over and grab a TA marshal. That is not worrisome if it is pre-arranged but from my past experience that has not been the case. Even at Atlantia 30<sup>th</sup>, there were issues.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Please don’t get me wrong, I am not against supporting Equestrian archery and supporting its advancement. It has to be done safely and with marshals that are there and willing to support it. We had a very active equestrian person up our way start the MiT training, but never finished her training and now has lapsed. I think we need to be flexible enough to help support that community and change our language to assure it is easily doable and safe for all.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In Service,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Janyn</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> Archers [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Atkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Janyn Fletcher' <<a href="mailto:janynfletcher@comcast.net" target="_blank">janynfletcher@comcast.net</a>>; 'Garth Groff' <<a href="mailto:sarahsan@embarqmail.com" target="_blank">sarahsan@embarqmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Equestrian Archery</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I would chime in here as this discussion came up at University. When I first read of all equestrian archers requirement to be TA warranted marshals I thought that extreme. Now let me back up a bit as this subject is not new and one I faced during my tenure as Archery DEM.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>My number one concern for equestrian archery is safety. I have a picture in my mind’s eye of an equestrian archer in full draw about to release when their horse rears. By human nature that archer will release the string as they begin to fall from their mount and use their hands to brace for the impact. Unfortunately this results in the high potential of a shaft being loosed at 45 degrees, maximum distance of any bow, into the “somewhere” zone and very likely injuring or even killing a person! Thus equestrian archery has some extra considerations that need to be taken into account.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Now back to the subject at hand – To require every equestrian archer to also be a warranted TA archer is unfair. (Yes, I hate that word too!) It is not required for CA or target archery participants, why then for equestrian? However there MUST be an equestrian archery marshal present for activity to occur. See points in previous paragraph above about bad things happening. Thus I believe there should be an equestrian marshal warrant which is in addition to a TA warrant BUT only one marshal need be present for the activity to occur. That would be just like TA archery, CA, heavy or rapier fighting. I am also not in favor of an “authorization process” for equestrian archery participants. The responsibility of the equestrian archery marshal is to make sure the area for the activity is safe, the overshoot zones are defined and safe, and that the participants are safe and know all commands the marshal may issues, i.e. “HOLD”, “Range is clear”, etc. They should have the very same authority as TA marshals, you act like an unsafe jerk on my range you get booted! This opens the door to any TA marshal to get the “extra coupon” as equestrian marshal or equestrian only individuals to be warranted as equestrian archery marshals., a warrant that includes that extra “coupon” for equestrian archery.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Now having said all this, and hoping it was clear, let me shed a bit of light on the equestrian community I learned this past weekend. THEY ARE NOT A COHESIE GROUP. There is a lot of disagreement and dislike within its membership. Perhaps I was only getting one side of the discussion but I was left with the impression that the equestrian community is seriously fractioned at this point. I believe that to be a major factor in any and all decisions made with regards to equestrian archery.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>But I believe bottom line, the “rules” for equestrian archery need to be defined, written down and accepted into kingdom rules. I encouraged this when I was DEM and told the equestrian community this is what they needed to do. To my knowledge to date this has NOT been done. For example, can they shoot while the horse is moving or does the horse have to be led by another person on the ground at a walk then stopped for the rider to shoot? Without rules in place like we have for ALL other martial activities within the SCA and kingdom I do not believe equestrian archery should occur.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I won’t bore the group with the horror stories I heard about what the equestrian group is doing with/about archery, but I will say I am VERY GLAD I was not in attendance nor had any responsibility regarding those actions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Christophe of Grey</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Archers [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Janyn Fletcher<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Garth Groff'; <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Equestrian Archery</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lord Mungo, I have moved this discussion to the archers list as I didn’t want to lose this valuable discussion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If the activity includes archery it falls under our Marshallate period. Also you have hit it right on the head. I know at past events that had equestrian archery, there was no coordination between the equestrian archers and the MIC for archery as far as I am aware. The equestrian activity is treated separately and I am not comfortable having equestrian archers that cant marshal their own range or adding additional burden of non-equestrian marshals having to marshal an equestrian activity when many of us know little about it. In my mind, the solution is to require equestrian archers to sit through our class and become a marshal, or if TA marshals are willing, become equestrian marshals for TA activities.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In any event, now that this is public I would like to hear from our archery community what everyone’s thoughts are?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In Service,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Janyn</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> Garth Groff [<a href="mailto:sarahsan@embarqmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:sarahsan@embarqmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> Janyn Fletcher <<a href="mailto:janynfletcher@comcast.net" target="_blank">janynfletcher@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Equestrian Archery</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>M'Lord Janyn,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Has horse archery actually been assigned to you by the Crown or the EM? If so this is an archery activity, period, and we need to have a marshal present at any equestrian archery event to do inspections and ensure safety. You already have this authority. While this will need to be clearly stated in our rules and the equestrian rules, and supported by the equestrian community, it is a no-brainer. Getting everybody on board is going to be the hard part, and may require more support from the EM or even the crown. Cat-herding anyone? :~)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>If you don't have formal authority, then the equestrians may expect to control this activity themselves. That would be more like combat archery being under the control of heavy marshals. Then it is their problem (and the EM's), not yours our ours.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Ideally, a marshal supervising horse archery should also be an equestrian, but there probably aren't any that are both (Grimm, maybe?). For now, you may have to accept that non-equestrian TA marshals will do this. Would it require special training? Probably not a bad idea. Maybe a special authorization? Would it be possible to have the equestrian marshals cross-trained for limited TA authority? Some of the things we do don't apply, or would be different--safety zones, for example, so maybe they could serve a shortened apprenticeship. If so, it needs to be stated in the rules that they have no authority as marshals on a TA range.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Here's an interesting thought. Suppose an equestrian marshal and a TA marshal disagree about something. Whose decision is final?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I wonder if our horse archers are aware of the rule against PVC pipe bows, many of which are made as horse-bows? And just curious, does your ban on these bows extend to combat archery?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yours Aye,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Mungo<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 9/19/15 9:57 PM, Janyn Fletcher wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lord Mungo, I hear your point and it is valid. I think some discussion on the topic is in order. My concern is that there needs to be a current marshal around when they are shooting. Most times we are not and that concerns me.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Janyn</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> Garth Groff [<a href="mailto:sarahsan@embarqmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:sarahsan@embarqmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 19, 2015 4:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> Janyn Fletcher <a href="mailto:janynfletcher@comcast.net" target="_blank"><janynfletcher@comcast.net></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Equestrian Archery</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Janyn,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Making all the equestrian archers be marshals may be a hard sell. There is one equestrian in our group who has been a combat archer and is now experimenting with horse archery at major events. Will she take the time to become warranted? I doubt it (though I would be pleased to train her). <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Perhaps an authorization similar to combat sports would be the better way to do this.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yours Aye,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Mungo<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 9/18/15 10:55 PM, Janyn Fletcher wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Good evening my Brothers and Sisters of the Bow, I also wanted to write you to let you know that I have had discussions with many in our community now. It seems there is some ambiguity concerning Equestrian Archery and I want to correct this. So over the next few weeks I will be researching law and policy and also adding a section to our handbook covering requirements for Equestrian archery.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Going forward I know I can say that I will require that any equestrian archer to be a marshal prior to shooting mounted in our Kingdom. With the issues I and others have already witnessed, we need to assure this is a safe activity and those participating have the proper knowledge to safely shoot mounted.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Stay tuned, more to come.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In Service,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Janyn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Archers mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman \,serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Archers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>