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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/262103377305661/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/262103377305661/</a> Academy of Historical Archery<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>c</span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>J</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>g<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sarah.gori@gmail.com [mailto:sarah.gori@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>onejoy1<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 18, 2014 12:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Atkins<br><b>Cc:</b> deallac@juno.com; archers@atlantia.sca.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album o f Atlantian heraldry. It...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 id="_x003a_hi" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif"><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Can you share this facebook group? I wasn't aware there was a group for Atlantian archers.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:32 PM, John Atkins <<a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" target="_blank">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Trimaris does have a Yewbow equivalent. I think it’s called the Arc something or other. I don’t know if it is a grant level award though. This proposal, I believe, is NOT intended to be a voting order/guild. IF, big if, Atlantia started something like this I would suggest it NOT be a voting order, but rather follow the construct of a guild. That would be anyone who has an interest may join given limited requirements. Within the structure individuals could work their way up via meeting increasingly higher standards and voted on by those at that level. The top of the heap would be the Yewbow. But a structure like this would provide a “learning ground” for individuals newly interested in what the guild represents, target archery, combat archery, TW, siege. I could see a structure like this leading the way to my post on FB about attempts to be more period in equipment and garb. My disclaimer for those not on the FB list, is that I find it somewhat distressing that I’m seeing more and more folks, mostly at Pennsic, who are using equipment marginally period and garb that has no if any relationship to what may have been worn in period by ANY culture. I offer Nikes, black jeans, sleeveless shirt and modern cotton hat. Contrast that representation with Naran the Atlantian Mongol! While I don’t expect everyone to be period head to toe I would like to see a more serious attempt at some form of periodness. I’ll grant Pennsic casual at any event with limits.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I am NOT a period Nazi but I do have this strange concept that you should be able to look at someone and make a somewhat educated guess as to what period and culture they are portraying. Rabbit fur bikinis with fox tails off the butt don’t quite fit that goal. I think a guild as proposed would provide the “lead by example” structure that would encourage folks to try harder.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Lots of opinions,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>C</span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>J</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>g</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:deallac@juno.com" target="_blank">deallac@juno.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:deallac@juno.com" target="_blank">deallac@juno.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 18, 2014 12:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" target="_blank">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Jonathas@RedFoxDen.org">Jonathas@RedFoxDen.org</a>; <a href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@atlantia.sca.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album o f Atlantian heraldry. It...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>Cog,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Does Trimaris currently have any equivalent to the YewBow? This proposal <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>seems to be like a non-polling version of the it (and the terminology <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>seems to be very WhiteScarf'ish (Provosts and Free Scholars) :))<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dealla<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>---------- Original Message ----------<br>From: "John Atkins" <<a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" target="_blank">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>><br>To: "'Jonathas'" <<a href="mailto:Jonathas@RedFoxDen.org" target="_blank">Jonathas@RedFoxDen.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@atlantia.sca.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album of Atlantian heraldry. It...<br>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:16:11 -0400<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Nope. Attached is an missile guild proposal for Trimaris. Something to consider?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>C</span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Archers [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On Behalf Of </span></strong>Jonathas<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> Monday, August 18, 2014 10:58 AM<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@atlantia.sca.org</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> [Archers] Fwd: [SCA Kingdom of Atlantia ] I've finished my album of Atlantian heraldry. It...</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Did anyone know Atlantia had an Archer's Guild??? Apparently there was at some point, and it even has heraldry registered!!<br><a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=672142516194548&set=a.671620349580098.1073741831.100001964179712&type=1&theater" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=672142516194548&set=a.671620349580098.1073741831.100001964179712&type=1&theater</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jonathas<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>---------- Forwarded message ----------<o:p></o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="98%" style='width:98.0%'><tr><td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;background:white;padding:6.0pt 6.0pt 6.0pt 6.0pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=500 style='width:375.0pt'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:7.5pt 0in 0in 7.5pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td width="100%" valign=top style='width:100.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid #E9E9E9 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 5.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#666666'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2FAtlantiaSCA%2Fpermalink%2F10152308916205918%2F&aref=41511622&medium=email&mid=a5b8230G5af384c57254G2796ac6G96G8762&bcode=1.1408337154.Abnapx9gb5k4Hlcc&n_m=james%40kriebel.cc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#3B5998'>Etienne Le Mons posted in SCA Kingdom of Atlantia </span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:11.25pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td width=57 valign=top style='width:42.75pt;padding:2.25pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=100001964179712&aref=41511622&medium=email&mid=a5b8230G5af384c57254G2796ac6G96G8762&bcode=1.1408337154.Abnapx9gb5k4Hlcc&n_m=james%40kriebel.cc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#3B5998;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1026" src="https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xpa1/t1.0-1/p50x50/1601324_651459841596149_978137090161497572_n.jpg" alt="Etienne Le Mons"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 3.75pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=100001964179712&aref=41511622&medium=email&mid=a5b8230G5af384c57254G2796ac6G96G8762&bcode=1.1408337154.Abnapx9gb5k4Hlcc&n_m=james%40kriebel.cc" target="_blank"><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#3B5998;text-decoration:none'>Etienne Le Mons</span></strong></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0in 3.75pt 3.75pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:right'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#999999'>12:45am Aug 18 </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I've finished my album of Atlantian heraldry. It should include all items registered to Atlantia or any branch within Atlantia. Note: This does include defunct groups that still have items registered (like the Barony of Myrkewood for example). There are a few that I don't know what they're for... Feel free to comment :-)<br><a href="https://www.facebook.com/etienne.le.mons/media_set?set=a.671620349580098.1073741831.100001964179712&type=3" target="_blank"><span style='color:#3B5998;text-decoration:none'>https://www.facebook.com/etienne.le.mons/media_set?set=a.671620349580098.1073741831.100001964179712&type=3</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 7.5pt 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/n/?photo.php&fbid=671620366246763&set=a.671620349580098.1073741831.100001964179712&type=1&aref=41511622&medium=email&n_m=james%40kriebel.cc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#3B5998;border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=90 id="_x0000_i1027" src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/s130x130/10453358_671620366246763_4251984912294494998_n.jpg"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/n/?media%2Fset%2F&set=a.671620349580098.1073741831.100001964179712&type=1&aref=41511622&medium=email&n_m=james%40kriebel.cc" target="_blank"><strong><span style='color:#3B5998;text-decoration:none'>Heraldry Renderings - Atlantia</span></strong></a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Electronic renderings of SCA heraldry for awards, orders & branches in the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=108190435881425" target="_blank"><span style='color:#3B5998;text-decoration:none'>Kingdom of Atlantia</span></a>. 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