<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top">I was an MiT at Pennsic, and I received two of my three signatures at Pennsic. <br/><br/>Sidenote, what a great experience! As everyone warned me, you see so much at Pennsic that you don't see in just Atlantia. It was "sink or swim" since my very first MiT experience was St Sebastian's, but it was wonderful. And challenging. Mostly wonderful. <a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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<td valign="top">Send Archers mailing list submissions to<BR> <a ymailto="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR> <a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org" target=_blank >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><BR><BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR> <a ymailto="mailto:archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR> <a ymailto="mailto:archers-owner@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers-owner@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject
line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of Archers digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR> 1. Re: MiT's and the guidelines for them (Garth Groff)<BR> 2. Re: MiT's and the guidelines for them (John Atkins)<BR> 3. Re: MiT's and the guidelines for them (<a ymailto="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" href="javascript:return">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>)<BR> 4. Re: MiT's and the guidelines for them (John Atkins)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:03:13 -0400<BR>From: Garth Groff <<a ymailto="mailto:sarahsan@embarqmail.com" href="javascript:return">sarahsan@embarqmail.com</a>><BR>To: <a ymailto="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><BR>Subject: Re: [Archers] MiT's and the guidelines for them<BR>Message-ID: <<a
ymailto="mailto:539F4D81.8080301@embarqmail.com" href="javascript:return">539F4D81.8080301@embarqmail.com</a>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<BR><BR>Noble Friends of the Bow,<BR><BR>Lord Janyn has nailed this issue very well, but please allow me to add <BR>something I stressed to the one MIT and the senior marshals in my <BR>warrant class at University last Saturday. Mentors/Sponsors should make <BR>it clear to their MITs that the trainee needs to contact the event TA <BR>MIC in advance (I suggest two weeks). The MIT and the MIC should agree <BR>on when to arrive, where to go, and any special areas the MIT needs to <BR>work on. This is basic courtesy to the marshal, who is going to have his <BR>hands full with the event and shouldn't be surprised by an MIT popping <BR>up unexpectedly.<BR><BR>Yours Aye,<BR><BR><BR>Mungo<BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:39:45
-0400<BR>From: "John Atkins" <<a ymailto="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" href="javascript:return">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>><BR>To: "'Jay Nardone'" <<a ymailto="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" href="javascript:return">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>>,<BR> <<a ymailto="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>><BR>Subject: Re: [Archers] MiT's and the guidelines for them<BR>Message-ID: <007401cf89a3$1bae0e20$530a2a60$@triad.rr.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>Janyn,<BR><BR>One question with regard to this post. Does Pennsic or Gulf Wars count as<BR>only one MIT session or two? I ask thinking an MIT may serve multiple days<BR>on the range and get a fairly wide representation of bow types, people, and<BR>situations.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Just asking for clarification,<BR><BR>CJg<BR><BR> <BR><BR>From: Archers [mailto:<a
ymailto="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] On Behalf<BR>Of Jay Nardone<BR>Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 2:57 PM<BR>To: <a ymailto="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><BR>Subject: [Archers] MiT's and the guidelines for them<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Every now and then I have to come to you all with unpleasant items that must<BR>be addressed. This is one of those times.. I have now been approached on two<BR>separate occasions about MiT conduct on the range, and I also witnessed it<BR>myself at a recent event. I want to make it very clear I will not tolerate<BR>warranted marshals breaking the rules for MiT's and I suspect on these<BR>occasions it was lack of understanding on the MIC's part. I want to pass<BR>along a reminder about our MiT's and how we evaluate them on their journey<BR>to becoming a warranted
marshal:<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR>1. The MiT MUST be present and participate in 3 separate events as a<BR>helping MiT. We ask that two of those events be outside the MiT's local<BR>group. Pennsic does count. What I mean by "participate" is that they are<BR>there from the start to the finish helping with setup, inspection, the line<BR>and teardown. I have been informed and witnessed MiT's strolling up and<BR>working for an hour while things were running and getting a signature from<BR>the MIC of archery for that day. This is unacceptable and frankly not fair<BR>to those that are putting in an effort! I don't need to remind everyone that<BR>we are the most dangerous martial activity in the SCA and we all need to<BR>take it seriously. If there are problems with a MiT later, I will hold the<BR>sponsor marshal responsible as this was the push to have a sponsor that will<BR>attest and sign off that the MiT was ready to be warranted.
Please take your<BR>role as sponsor and to our MIC's for the day, seriously. If I continue to<BR>get reports like this I will investigate and take action if necessary.<BR><BR>2. For the sponsors of MiT's, before sending me their paperwork (yes<BR>it is YOUR job as sponsor to send me their paperwork, not theirs..) make<BR>sure their comments are supportive and you feel they are ready to proceed.<BR>We are not simply just handing out warrants and I find it interesting that<BR>in the 2 years I have been DEM, I have yet to see a MiT that needed a bit<BR>more time. This alarms me! Also you as the sponsor should be administering<BR>the test to the MiT to assure they know and understand our rules. They<BR>should be getting 80% or better on the test as it is based on our rules.<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR>If anyone has any questions, please feel free to let me know. I will be<BR>monitoring this issue very closely and hope it is behind us. I
would also<BR>like to see our regional marshals take a closer look at things that are<BR>happening in their areas of responsibility. I thank you all for your help<BR>and attention to make Atlantian archery what it is!<BR><BR> <BR><BR>In Service,<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Janyn<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR>"Those who stand for nothing, will fall for anything!" -Alexander Hamilton<BR><BR> <BR><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <<a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20140616/a98a523e/attachment-0001.htm" target=_blank >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20140616/a98a523e/attachment-0001.htm</a>><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:12:40 +0000 (UTC)<BR>From: <a ymailto="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net"
href="javascript:return">jaynardone@comcast.net</a><BR>To: John <<a ymailto="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" href="javascript:return">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>>, archers<BR> <<a ymailto="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>><BR>Subject: Re: [Archers] MiT's and the guidelines for them<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<a ymailto="mailto:329152374.7933884.1402953160346.JavaMail.root@comcast.net" href="javascript:return">329152374.7933884.1402953160346.JavaMail.root@comcast.net</a>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR>This is a good question and we have been allowing if MiTs work multiple days they can get credit for it at Pennsic. Also one correction to what I posted, the MiT can send me their completed form, what I meant to post is that the sponsor needs to sign off prior to that happening.<br /><br />In service,
<br /><br />Janyn<br /><br />Sent from Xfinity Mobile App<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <<a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20140616/045c9d7c/attachment-0001.htm" target=_blank >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20140616/045c9d7c/attachment-0001.htm</a>><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:21:18 -0400<BR>From: "John Atkins" <<a ymailto="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" href="javascript:return">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>><BR>To: <<a ymailto="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" href="javascript:return">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>>, "'archers'"<BR> <<a ymailto="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>><BR>Subject: Re: [Archers] MiT's
and the guidelines for them<BR>Message-ID: <009701cf89a8$e9bf8eb0$bd3eac10$@triad.rr.com><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR>OK, not intending to split hairs here but????As Gulf Wars and Pennsic are long events, can they serve, for example, three days then get signed off? Personally I would be willing to accept two days but at least one day, the one of the three, has to be in kingdom.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>CJg<BR><BR> <BR><BR>From: <a ymailto="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" href="javascript:return">jaynardone@comcast.net</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" href="javascript:return">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>] <BR>Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 5:13 PM<BR>To: John; archers<BR>Subject: Re: [Archers] MiT's and the guidelines for them<BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>This is a good question and we have been allowing if MiTs work multiple days they can get credit for it at Pennsic. Also one correction to what I posted,
the MiT can send me their completed form, what I meant to post is that the sponsor needs to sign off prior to that happening.<BR><BR>In service, <BR><BR>Janyn<BR><BR>Sent from Xfinity Mobile App<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: <a ymailto="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com" href="javascript:return">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a><BR>To: <a ymailto="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" href="javascript:return">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>,<a ymailto="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><BR>Sent:Mon Jun 16 08:39:46 UTC 2014<BR>Subject: RE: [Archers] MiT's and the guidelines for them<BR><BR><BR><BR>Janyn,<BR><BR>One question with regard to this post. Does Pennsic or Gulf Wars count as only one MIT session or two? I ask thinking an MIT may serve multiple days on the range and get a fairly wide representation of bow types, people, and situations.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Just asking for
clarification,<BR><BR>CJg<BR><BR> <BR><BR>From: Archers [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Jay Nardone<BR>Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 2:57 PM<BR>To: <a ymailto="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" href="javascript:return">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><BR>Subject: [Archers] MiT's and the guidelines for them<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Every now and then I have to come to you all with unpleasant items that must be addressed. This is one of those times?. I have now been approached on two separate occasions about MiT conduct on the range, and I also witnessed it myself at a recent event. I want to make it very clear I will not tolerate warranted marshals breaking the rules for MiT?s and I suspect on these occasions it was lack of understanding on the MIC?s part. I want to pass along a reminder about our MiT?s and how we evaluate them on
their journey to becoming a warranted marshal:<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR>1. The MiT MUST be present and participate in 3 separate events as a helping MiT. We ask that two of those events be outside the MiT?s local group. Pennsic does count. What I mean by ?participate? is that they are there from the start to the finish helping with setup, inspection, the line and teardown. I have been informed and witnessed MiT?s strolling up and working for an hour while things were running and getting a signature from the MIC of archery for that day. This is unacceptable and frankly not fair to those that are putting in an effort! I don?t need to remind everyone that we are the most dangerous martial activity in the SCA and we all need to take it seriously. If there are problems with a MiT later, I will hold the sponsor marshal responsible as this was the push to have a sponsor that will attest and sign off that the MiT was ready to be warranted.
Please take your role as sponsor and to our MIC?s for the day, seriously. If I continue to get reports like th<BR> is I will investigate and take action if necessary.<BR><BR>2. For the sponsors of MiT?s, before sending me their paperwork (yes it is YOUR job as sponsor to send me their paperwork, not theirs?.) make sure their comments are supportive and you feel they are ready to proceed. We are not simply just handing out warrants and I find it interesting that in the 2 years I have been DEM, I have yet to see a MiT that needed a bit more time. This alarms me! Also you as the sponsor should be administering the test to the MiT to assure they know and understand our rules. They should be getting 80% or better on the test as it is based on our rules.<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR>If anyone has any questions, please feel free to let me know. I will be monitoring this issue very closely and hope it is behind us. I would also like to see our
regional marshals take a closer look at things that are happening in their areas of responsibility. I thank you all for your help and attention to make Atlantian archery what it is!<BR><BR> <BR><BR>In Service,<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Janyn<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR>?Those who stand for nothing, will fall for anything!? ?Alexander Hamilton<BR><BR> <BR><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <<a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20140616/7556a594/attachment.htm" target=_blank >http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20140616/7556a594/attachment.htm</a>><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Subject: Digest Footer<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Archers mailing list<BR><a ymailto="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org"
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