<p dir="ltr">I don't believe it has anything to do with safety, rather cleaning up the intent of the rules to remove any misunderstandings.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Other then sights, all Atlantian crossbows already are required to meet the rest of the IKAC's Period Crossbow rules, so at least in Kingdom it will be easy....</p>
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Glad to hear it. I've never had an accidental misfire with my
combat crossbow. Now, my target crossbow is another story . . . How
will we be able to know which trigger mechanism is banned if it is
internal?<br>
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Quite the opposite, the proposed rule (which is the last
line) is intended to disallow only the modern style of
trigger/lock mechanism, ie the ones we have been complaining
about at Pennsic. The current rule (which is the second
line) can be misread to disallow tickler style triggers by
someone not overly familiar with crossbows and the different
definitions.<br>
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In the Period Crossbow Division Sir Jon is after the same
thing we are, getting rid of the restocked modern crossbows.<br>
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Nardone <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" target="_blank">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good evening my friends. Not sure
how many of you have been following the posts on yahoo
or Facebook about this topic so I decided to repost it
here. I will go on record and say I have already made
my posts completely against Sir John’s thoughts. This
would essentially ban most of the crossbows we shoot
in our Kingdom from IKAC’s which is crazy! What he
calls “the tickler” is the style trigger most of us
are shooting. Since I have been in the SCA both
fighting and Target I can’t think of one accidental
discharge I have ever witnessed due to someone being
careless with the trigger. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In Service,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333" lang="EN"><span>·<span> </span></span></span><b><span lang="EN">This is regarding a possible change to
the IKAC rules for Period Crossbow. The rules
currently read. <br>
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"To be counted as a period style crossbow all the
following conditions must be met: 1) The stock
must be made of wood. 2) It may not have a
rifle-style butt. 3) It may not have a modern
style lock (period forms of self-resetting
mechanisms are fine, however) or a trigger. 4) It
may not have sights."<br>
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Part 3: can be read as to not allow any form of
trigger. When I first wrote the rules, the intent
was not to allow any form of "modern" release
mechanism or any "modern" trigger. The definition
of "trigger" is: "a small device that releases a
spring or catch and so sets off a mechanism, esp.
in order to fire a gun." The way it currently
reads it can also be read to not allow a tickler,
the long lever style that runs parallel to the
crossbow stock which acts as a trigger to the
rolling nut, pin or claw. It also does not allow
the use of late per...iod 1400's through 1500's
multi axle lock mechanisms that used the short
trigger, perpendicular to the stock, as in guns of
that period. This type of release was common on
the better late period target crossbows and the
trigger was protected by a trigger guard. Some of
these guards can be mistaken for a tickler because
they resemble them and others look like the
trigger guard on a hand gun. <br>
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The Keeper of the IKAC felt feel that discussion
at SCA Archery on Yahoo previously, had indicated
that the use of triggers on crossbows was thought
to be unsafe and that it should not be allowed. My
opinion is that the use of a trigger with a
trigger guard is safer than the use of a tickler
style trigger or even a thumb lever located on the
top of the stock, because they are not protected
and can be accidentally bumped and the lock
released. <br>
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I would like to hear your opinions on this. Should
the rule be changed next year to say "3) It may
not have a modern style lock (period forms of
self-resetting mechanisms are fine, however) or a
modern trigger.</span></b></p>
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