<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Greetings Enequy,</div><div>Thank you for taking the time! Nice conclusions as well. Very appreciated.</div><div>YIS,</div><div>Saphir</div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 1, 2013, at 4:59 PM, "John Atkins" <<a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Enequy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Very well done. Thorough and complete. Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">cog<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>enequy<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 01, 2013 8:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jay Nardone'; <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Atlatl Rules Final voting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Good morning everyone. Well thanks to Jonathas I was able to set up the Atlatl practice range and ran it most of the day, until about 3:30. There were a few of the people that do shoot the Atlatl show up and a number of new people that had never shot it before. I set the targets side by side and set the range so we could shoot at 20, 30, and 40 yards. I asked everyone to shoot for the large target with a set of darts and then shoot at the smaller target with a set of darts. A set of darts consisted of 6 darts. I even did a timed round three times, and one time with experienced throwers. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">1) With the newbees the general consensus was that the smaller target was the best one to go with. One said that the big one was nice but after a bit of practice the smaller one was the best for long term shooting. There was a number of experienced throwers that said the 80 cm target is the best one to use. Smaller than the 120 and larger then the standard archery target of 60 sm.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">2) I We all used 6 darts instead of three. Everyone that was out there said that was the preferred quantity to throw each time. There was even the comment that you need six to determine your aim and mistakes ( the same as in archery). </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">3) No one out there did real well on getting points. But then there was the newbees and the rest have not done a lot of throwing waiting for the final rules. But talking to Allen where he does do Atlatl on Sundays. He has a number of throwers that are really good at the short ranges - and that is probably where most people will make there points. The points for this will not reach anything like archery. I would recommend that we go without ranks for one year to see where people make their average scores and use that as a guide to generate ranks for the Atlatl in the future.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">4) Ran three timed rounds. The first time I did it was just to see if I could get off 6 safely. I had 8 seconds to spare. The next time I did it was trying to be accurate and still had a few seconds to spare along with others that were shooting at the same time. The third time was the same. Each time I did the timed round there was no safety issue as everyone paid attention to the line, the same as in archery. One person that did it with me got five off. Even in archery until you are experienced in doing a timed round you do not always get six arrows off. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">5) the 80 cm target had two of the white foam used at commercial ranges. The 120 cm had the double layers of the foam picked up at Home depot. In both cases the point of the dart usually made it all the way through the target and stuck out enough to see the metal point but I never saw the wood on the back of the target. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Conclusion</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">1) use six darts</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">2) use the 80 cm target</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">3) keep the timed rounds at 20 yards</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">4) three rounds of 20, 20 timed, 30, and 40 to make an average</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">5) no ranks set up for one year to evaluate the points system</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Enequy Erensaurlezelasgarria, Menditarra</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Etxatxu Enequy Jaudonebiquendiosteaco)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Nardone<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Archers] Atlatl Rules Final voting</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Good evening everyone, I probably should wait until the morning to do this but I wanted to get word out to everyone. I want to thank Master Jonathas once again for setting up the 88cm and the 122cm targets at Lochmere Shoot today. I saw many people throwing Atlatl at both and I would like to hear opinions and the voting for one of the two target sizes. I will then make the final decision based off of your input. At this point we are only talking about the target sizes as we have already set the other items in past discussions. Once the target selection is complete, I will send out a recap note and move forward to have the Atlatl rules posted. I want to thank you all for taking part of this discussion and helping us move forward with this too.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In Service,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Janyn<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Archers mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>