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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan, I welcome your comments and input and will them to the discussion and voting. I like your idea and nothing will be set in stone in the beginning. We could try a trial period to see how things are going. We don’t want to do that for too long because it would not be fair for scores being posted to change the rules down the road. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks… Janyn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Mitz<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'jaynardone@comcast.net'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 119, Issue 8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Janyn,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As an atl atl participant in the SCA and mundane worlds I respectfully disagree with using the archery distances to establish the official rules. Trying to hit a vertical target beyond 25 yards is no fun. I do agree that a target that is larger than the RR archery target is warranted. And finally, I think there should only be 3 darts per distance. With that said, what do people think about a pilot program for one year? Go ahead with the archery distances, larger target, and an agreed upon number of darts and see what happens. If all is well then make the rules final, if not then make adjustments. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">jaynardone@comcast.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> Martha Fletcher<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 119, Issue 8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mistress, agreed. Im not worried about the beginning I was more worried that over time it would begin to discourage people from continuing on. Thanks for the words...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Janyn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>"Martha Fletcher" <<a href="mailto:mistress.martelvonc@gmail.com">mistress.martelvonc@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, August 7, 2013 6:26:01 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Archers] Archers Digest, Vol 119, Issue 8<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Janyn,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I would not be concerned, the scores could very well be zero in the beginning. <br><br>AtlAtl Royal Rounds is a new challenge and until people start doing it regularly and practicing, just like we do for archery RR's, the scores will naturally be low or non-existant. Scores will improve as participation improves. Right now there is nothing to gauge skill in AtlAtl. There is going to be a skill curve for a while. It will be like any skill, if folks have the motivation to work on getting better they will.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Martelle<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br> 1. Re: Atl-atl discussion and rules (<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" target="_blank">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:43:35 +0000 (UTC)<br>From: <a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net" target="_blank">jaynardone@comcast.net</a><br>To: Michael <<a href="mailto:michaelstuart@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelstuart@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Archers] Atl-atl discussion and rules<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:1685085151.2160915.1375807415973.JavaMail.root@sz0081a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net" target="_blank">1685085151.2160915.1375807415973.JavaMail.root@sz0081a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br><br><br>Eirik, very good points and I really dont have a dog in this fight. Im just hoping that everyone keeps in mind that Atlatl is not as accurate as archery is and putting those same limitations on everyone from the start troubles me. If the community feels it is the way to go, I will consider it and we can move on. I am seeing increased Atlatl involvement at many archery events and even those I consider seasoned throwers have problems hitting a RR target at 20 yards.<br><br><br><br>This all seems a bit pointless to me if the scores to submit for 80% of the throwers are going to be 0's....<br><br><br><br>Just thinking out loud here...<br><br><br><br>Janyn<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Archers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>