<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Godai,</div><div>Per your last paragraph below -</div><div>The military definition of a good officer is one who tells the men Go To Hell and they can't wait to get back to the barracks to pack!</div><div><br></div><div>I believe your comments fit the polite and courteous category while making the strong point.</div><div><br></div><div>Cog<br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:49 PM, "Gordon Kinnie" <<a href="mailto:am_piobaire@comcast.net">am_piobaire@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I believe that Otto had said something
about this at Unevent, basically a separate qualification for MIC’s.
Janyn and I both thought it would be a good idea and is something that would benefit
the Kingdom.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">As a marshal, I have attended the Armored
101, Armored 201, Siege 101 and of course Archery 101 and Combat Archery 101
classes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Having a working knowledge of all SCA
marshal activities will just makes us a better marshal and should be required
for MIC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I sent Gaston, the MIC at Yimr, a polite
message suggesting that he read the rules for all marshal activities and
included the link to the Archery Handbook as a bonus.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>John Atkins<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, January 26, 2013
12:02 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jay Nardone<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
<<a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>>; <st1:personname w:st="on">Martha
Fletcher</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Archers] Ymir &
Archery</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">OK a proposal/subject I brought up to Janyn privately but do here now
in the hopes that our numbers, and those among us with more horsepower in this
club, may actually get implemented. I suggest 2 levels of marshal
warrant. Level 1 is a warrant in one activity be it heavy, rapier or
archery, whatever else. Level 2 is a warrant in an activity BUT the
individual has attended marshal classes for heavy, equestrian and archery.
These 3 as heavy would include specifics for rapier. Archery as it
would include thrown weapons. And equestrian just 'cuz they are so
different. A level 2 warrant would mean that individual is at least
familiar with the specific needs of all activities that may occur at an event.
Therefore only a level 2 warranted individual could MIC an event.
Yes, it adds a layer to the marshal program. And yes, not everyone
will want to go through the process. But it would get rid of these
marshals with 15 years MIC experience who no nothing about anything that does
not occur on the heavy battle field. And in my opinion ANY MIC of this
nature is a major liability in and of themselves!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Cog<br>
Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:17 AM, "Jay Nardone" <<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Mistress Martelle,
you captured my point exactly. This is what really got me among the other
silliness. It doesn’t have to be Archery it could have been rapier,
brewing, etc. I just cant get my head around how one person can derail a
complete Marshallate, I just don’t see the effectiveness of that? I
understand I am a cheerleader for archery, but since I approve or disapprove
all warrants in our discipline, how do I get pushed aside when that decision
needs to be made? Can you spell dysfunctional?<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I applaud
everyone’s passion, it is the reason I enjoy archery as much as I do in
this Kingdom. You are all true friends and we will not be divided by foolish
things!<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><u5:p> </u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Janyn<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:personname w:st="on">Martha Fletcher</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, January 26, 2013
9:20 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Archers] Ymir &
Archery<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">40+ paying slots is a big
block to disinfranchise. <br>
<br>
If he's such an experienced MIC, as he claims, he damn well SHOULD be
experienced with the archery community by now. <br>
<br>
<st1:city w:st="on">Marshall-In-Charge</st1:city> means just that, you are in
charge and the buck stops at you if anyone has an issue and you had BETTER have
answers about any <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">marshall</st1:place></st1:city>
activity at the event you are in charge of. Relying so heavily on the <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">marshalls</st1:place></st1:city> that you won't
have an activity because you don't trust many people to run them is a problem
in your supervisory skills. MIC's don't have to know everything but they should
know a lot.<br>
<br>
Telling the Kingdom DEM, no thank you I don't trust you or anyone you may
suggest to me to run an archery range either, is a problem.<br>
<br>
yours,<br>
Martelle <br>
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