<p>Jynyn,<br>
Congratulations, please do not forget that combat archery and horse back archery are both on the rise in the SCA and are both part of a whole in the picture of historical archery.<br>
Thanks,<br>
Archer Bear Horseman of Rockbridge</p>
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1. Atlantia Target Archery DEM Change (Jay Nardone)<br>
2. Pennsic Champion's Team report (Jay Nardone)<br>
3. St. Aidan (Gordon Kinnie)<br>
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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:45:52 -0400<br>
From: "Jay Nardone" <<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>><br>
Subject: [Archers] Atlantia Target Archery DEM Change<br>
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My brothers and sisters of the bow, I wanted to wait until the official<br>
transfer was completed prior to sending my hello note. For those of you that<br>
don't know, at Pennsic this year, during the St. Sebastian's II shoot, the<br>
King and Queen held court to transfer the DEM position from THL Lorelei<br>
Greenleaf to me. First of all I want to say a heartfelt thank THL Lorelei<br>
Greenleaf for all she has done, she is a mentor and true friend of mine and<br>
inspiration to us all. I am excited to have been given this opportunity and<br>
look forward to serving the Kingdom and all of you. Someone wrote and<br>
congratulated me and said they would be proud to work for me, but I look at<br>
it just the opposite, I am here to work for you all, my marshals and<br>
friends. Without your attention to detail, dedication and thoughts and<br>
ideas, we would not have the shining example of archery that we enjoy in<br>
Atlantia and the known world.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I am excited to get to work on the items I feel are needing attention in our<br>
Kingdom. I would like to announce that THL Seamus McRay will be my Emergency<br>
DEM, I view his position as a partner and will look to him to share in<br>
supporting archery in our Kingdom. I know some might be concerned that both<br>
of us reside in the Northern part of Atlantia. I want to assure you all that<br>
this will not be an issue, most of you that know me know that I try to<br>
attend most of the archery related and other Kingdom events that I can. In<br>
the event that I can't attend an event I would look to Seamus and our<br>
regional marshals to provide coverage as they have in the past.<br>
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<br>
<br>
I have already started a list and after initially talking with Sir Otto, I<br>
will move out on working those action items. I have already re-written the<br>
Target Archery Marshal class handout and teachers notes and will be posting<br>
them on the Kingdom Archery site. I am currently finishing the 1st edition<br>
of the Atlantia Target Archery Handbook. After approval from Sir Otto and<br>
the Crown, it will also be posted. This will be a one stop place for new<br>
archers and all of us to have all the pertinent information required to<br>
describe archery in Atlantia to include rules, Marshallate information, MIT<br>
class information and MIT form. Some of the other items include a revamp of<br>
our regional marshals responsibilities, I would like to make their<br>
involvement more effective and get them to assist with marshal renewals,<br>
expired classes and memberships, etc.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Someone asked me earlier this year what my agenda was? That took me a back a<br>
bit because on thinking about this I have no agenda, well alright I do have<br>
an agenda but it is simple. My agenda is to have fun and keep Atlantia<br>
Archery safe, if you're not having fun your doing it wrong! This won't be<br>
the last time you hear me say that. So to answer this question, here is my<br>
answer:<br>
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<br>
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1. Educate our autocrats and marshals to work more closely together. I<br>
would like to see archery be held in a more central location to the event as<br>
long as the site permits from a safety perspective. I would like to see our<br>
marshals be more proactive with autocrats so they work together early enough<br>
in planning that archery is not an afterthought and site layout is planned<br>
correctly.<br>
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2. Continue to educate our marshal's on our rules and how to enforce<br>
them properly. I have heard of 6 instances now already this year where<br>
marshal's "made up" rules which caused archers who drove great distances not<br>
to be able to shoot. I will always support marshal's erring on the side of<br>
safety, but I don't want people turned away for "made up" rulings. We have<br>
decent and recently updated rules and I would like to see them enforced<br>
properly.<br>
<br>
3. Correct the multiple small issues with incorrect data on the Earl<br>
Marshal's page as well as our Atlantia Archery page. I would like updated<br>
data to be stored in one location and all other pages to simply link to that<br>
data. This will assure that we only have to update data in one location and<br>
the links will always point you to that correct data.<br>
<br>
4. Implement a simple multiple choice test for MIT's to better align<br>
us with the other disciplines.<br>
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5. Implement a Marshal's Warrant ID card that Warranted Marshal's will<br>
need to show to identify themselves as marshal's. It will be renewed yearly<br>
based on your membership and marshal's class standings.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Those of you that know me, know how serious I am about archery in the SCA. I<br>
will promise you all that I will always listen to your ideas and thoughts<br>
but we might not always agree. That is perfectly alright and normal but I<br>
will not support negativity, whining and finger pointing. We have too much<br>
to do and need to work together to accomplish it all. Some things are meant<br>
to be discussed in the forums and others might not. I would like to form a<br>
"core" group of target archery marshals (TAMs) that represent the Baronies,<br>
Canton's, Shires, etc that make up Atlantia. I would look to these TAMs as<br>
the core to work certain issues with me when required. I would like to see<br>
St. Sebastian's continue and we even carry out the Known World Archery<br>
Tournament like THL Christophe started the discussion for earlier this year.<br>
That tourney would take a dedicated team to pull off and much planning by<br>
this team. If we conduct it at Pennsic or not it still would be a huge and<br>
fruitful event. Of course I am only thinking out loud here, a little at a<br>
time.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
So in closing I want to say thank you all again for the welcomes, I look<br>
forward to working with you all. If you have questions, comments or concerns<br>
please let me know. I am honored to be given this chance to serve Atlantia<br>
and my friends and peers in the Archery community. I will do my best to keep<br>
archery exciting and safe in Atlantia.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In Service,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
THL Janyn Fletcher of Lancastreshire<br>
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I wanted to send a short report out on this year's Champion's team. I first<br>
of all want to thank everyone that came out to try out and support the<br>
Champion's team. This year was one of those strange ones and in the end<br>
Atlantia had 15 Atlantian's on the Champions team. We were allowed 20<br>
primaries with 4 alternates. I want to thank Lord Ghijskijn for his<br>
assistance with practices, it was a big help to me and freed me up to pay<br>
attention to those that we did not know of their abilities. There was some<br>
confusion this year on the part of our Ally's Archer General. It turned out<br>
that he was very distracted (he was elevated to Pelican during Pennsic) and<br>
did no prior planning. During the Champion's shoot we discovered that a<br>
complete team of 4 was missing from the field. The new Archer General was<br>
continually claiming that the missing team was Atlantian's but I assured him<br>
that all of our primaries were accounted for and actually shooting on the<br>
field. What really upsets me still is that our 4 alternates could have<br>
stepped in and shot but were not asked until after lunch when the roving<br>
range was already torn down and the only remaining targets were the walk-up<br>
and friend/foe.<br>
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I sat down with the Archer General yesterday to discuss this mistake and I<br>
think I understand what happened now. Aethelmaerc never had all 20 slots<br>
filled with 4 alternates as he told me again and again. There was never any<br>
roster made as I had worked from the first day of practice. I was instructed<br>
that I needed to carry those from North Shield, Trimaris and Meridies. I did<br>
just that and the other 5 members of our team were comprised of those<br>
individuals but the morning of the shoot he counted 4 of them even though<br>
they were in line in our teams. On top of that he only had 1 alternate to<br>
give when required. So long story short, the Allies lost by roughly 206<br>
points that could have been shot by our alternate team members.<br>
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So next year no matter who we are allied with, I press my counterpart much<br>
harder to assure they are on top of things. I want to thank everyone again<br>
who participated, I really enjoyed shooting with you all and I can say that<br>
Atlantia brought it's "A" game as usual! I also noted a few things that we<br>
only have 9 sash's now and need more to complete a team of 20. Also now that<br>
I am apprenticed in metal working and pewter casting, I will make up some<br>
tokens of my thanks for this year's team members and next.<br>
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In Service,<br>
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THL Janyn Fletcher<br>
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To all that did not attend Pennsic.<br>
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Let it be known that THL Seamus McRay of Bright Hills was made a member of<br>
the Company of Sergeants of Saint Aidan.<br>
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He is the first combat archer ever added to this order.<br>
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Congratulations Seamus.<br>
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Godai<br>
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