<html><div>Seamus,</div><div> </div><div>A few comments below</div><div> </div><div>Dealla<br><br>---------- Original Message ----------<br>From: Jamie Frailey <jamie@designbyfive.com><br>To: archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br>Subject: [Archers] Lochmere Arrow � Rules Draft<br>Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:49:04 -0400<br><br><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">So it has come to my attention that there are some concerns over the way the Lochmere Arrow has been run recently. I have done some research and I can not find any documentation on rules for this competition. I did find a post from Siegfried from in 2006. I have shot in this competition for many years and never heard any complaints other than wow that was hard. So, I am floating out a starting point for such rules for this Competition. Please feel free to add or eliminate. I would highly recommend to reach out to the original winners and get their opinion on this document.<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>In service,<br><br>Lord Seamus McRay<br><br><br>A quick reminder on the basic rules of the Lochmere Arrow for those that <br>don't know:<br><br>The Lochmere Arrow is a competition between the Baronies/Shires/ Cantons of Atlantia.<br><br>Teams of 2 members compete together (and all the stations are designed <br>around a concept of a team shooting together).<strong> (ARE there any limitations on target designs?)</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong></strong>**** This has not been obvious (the concept of shooting together) in many of the years.</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** The only limits I have seen have been up to the imagination of the designer (see below</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** regarding possible advantages granted by this, though)<br><br>To actually WIN the coveted Arrow for your Group, both members of the <br>team must be from the same local group, and only Atlantian groups may win.</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** members can be (have been) physically from different groups, as long as they </span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** claim to 'play' for a given group. Whoever they choose to shoot for, would be the</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** winning group<br><br><strong>CAN: Winners can or cannot shoot this competition in consecutive years? Or the Designers of the competition cannot compete for the Lochmere arrow</strong>.</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** This has changed over the years. When the competition was simply Royal Rounds, there</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** no problem with a winning team competing in consecutive years, since everyone was on </span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** the same starting place. As the tournament style evolved, sometimes winners competed,</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** and this upset a few people because it gave the hosting group an advantage regarding the</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** distances, scoring, and designs of the targets<br><br>Each group MAY provide more than one team if they wish, as many as you wish.</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** this has evolved over the years. It was originally ONE team per group. This</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** kept the numbers down, but the tourney moved faster. This then moved to</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** allowing more teams to shoot, but only one was OFFICIAL. More open, but</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** still a bit restrictive. Lately, yes, it has moved to as many teams as a group</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** can/want to field<br><br>Mixed teams, and teams from outside of Atlantia are allowed to compete, <br>have fun, and a prize will be provided for the best non-able-to-win team score.</span></span></span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">**** see above regarding who a team 'claims' to shoot for<br></span></span></span></p><div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></span></div><div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse;"><strong>Should it be a (1) Bow competition?</strong></span></span></div><div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="border-collapse: collapse;"><strong>**** I believe this is best, but others mileage may vary :)<br></strong></span></span></div><div> </div><div>In service,</div><div> </div><div>THL Seamus McRay</div><p> </p><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Regards,</div><div> </div><div>Jamie Frailey</div><div><a href="mailto:jamie@designbyfive.com">jamie@designbyfive.com</a></div><div> </div><div>c. 443.834.8141</div><div>p. 443.615.7264</div><div> </div><div>225 East Redwood Street, 3rd Floor</div><div>Baltimore, MD 21202</div><div> </div></div></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></div><p> </p></html>