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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>COG, words of wisdom again and I am all for a re-think. At this point I need someone to volunteer to work the theme issue. I am being honest here and cant while working all the other planning. So lets compile a list of suggestions already and someone will need to step up to the plate and lets choose one to run with. I would like to have this sorted out by the end of Feb or early March so we can get the proper advertising out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Great discussion!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Janyn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Atkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Alternatives to Alice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Let me just weigh in here. Although the Pennsic masters shoot has had themes like Princess Bride, Snow White and her short friends and others of the same ilk in the past, they were, at best, marginally period. HOWEVER, the very first ever SAAD was Bubba themed (and we still hear “where’s Bubba”) mostly because it was the SOIUTHERN Atlantian Archery Day. So folks shot out of the back of pickups, at road signs, and staff wore camouflage. But we have NEVER heard the end of it. Comments like “SAAD wasn’t/isn’t a REAL SCA event”. Not quite sure what that meant but I’m guessing those who don’t shoot archery but had the most to say, read here criticize, SAAD didn’t get the FUN of the event. And so, every SAAD since has NOT been Bubba themed, except this year’s, but Bubba has been at least one shooting station. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Side note: I’ve been told by those who would know that Bubba is an valid old Polish name for grandmother. This year’s SAAD theme will be Bubba visits Scotland and we all know Scotland is period!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My point is a more period styled theme may be a better choice as Nuala suggests. There are a great many subjects. I’m on a list of Michigan reenactment archers who put on a shoot last summer using period themes. Seemed like some great targets to shoot and interesting much like we have come to expect in/from Atlantia.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As there is plenty of time, perhaps a re-think may be in order.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>cog<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dconrad<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2012 7:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Holly Gibbons; archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Alternatives to Alice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have to agree with Nuala...why not choose something period...there is so much to choose from!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Aidan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:holly0920@yahoo.com" title="holly0920@yahoo.com">Holly Gibbons</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" title="archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Saturday, January 21, 2012 4:24 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> [Archers] Alternatives to Alice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Greetings, all.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>I haven't been on the lists much but this caught my eye. I did a 15-station shoot on Alice in Wonderland two years ago for the Barony of Storvik's Birthday and Investiture. At the time I thought it would be a fun theme that at least had chess sets and a queen in it, so what the hell. It was a blast to think up all the targets, and we had a great day on the range, but I took a ton of flack for the theme and the fact that it is not medieval in the least. I have learned a lot since then and have realized that there are so many wonderful shoot ideas that ARE medieval - - at least in their imagery - - that there's no real reason to pull from popular culture or out-of-period places. I would never choose to do another shoot on a modern theme, myself. Two years ago Jonathas (and his wife!) put on a kingdom archery shoot based on Gaston Phebes Book of the Hunt which was just spectacular, just gorgeous. I know the East did a Star Trek Champions shoot year before last, but I think Atlantia can make this shoot a great one while respecting the fact that we are all actors in a drama that is supposed to take place in 600 - 1600, Europe. Last year before St. Sebastian's I put about a dozen ideas out on the list and Lorelei liked medieval monsters, which I think ended up being a nice shoot theme from which everyone could come up with their own angle/artwork. I just want to encourage you all to take one little step back and consider picking a theme that is in fact related to the era we are supposedly reenacting.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Just my two cents. If you do Alice, I have targets. And I'll be there anyhow no what is chosen.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>But if you want other theme ideas . . . <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>medieval monsters<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>colorful heraldry<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>medieval night sky<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>king arthur<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>robin hood (I like this one)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>life on a viking ship<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>the plague<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>small creatures, big plants<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>beowulf<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>the Book of Kells<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>robbers and theives vs the quiet village in France<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>the hundred years war<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>castles, moats, and dragons<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>things that fly or go bump in the night<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Nuala<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> "<a href="mailto:archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:00 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Archers Digest, Vol 100, Issue 29</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>Send Archers mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><br><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-request@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:archers-owner@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-owner@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Archers digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. St. Sebastian's II Shoot update (Jay Nardone)<br> 2. Re: St. Sebastian's II Shoot update (<a href="mailto:loreleielkins@aol.com">loreleielkins@aol.com</a>)<br> 3. Re: St. Sebastian's II Shoot update (John Atkins)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:18:46 -0500<br>From: "Jay Nardone" <<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>><br>Subject: [Archers] St. Sebastian's II Shoot update<br>Message-ID: <003001ccd7f3$c4c56f80$4e504e80$@net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Hello everyone, just wanted to send an update to the planning for this<br>year's shoot. As most of you already have seen, our list of volunteers<br>continues to grow as we move forward. I am working on prizes for the winners<br>and all helping Marshal's of the shoot. I have contacted Lord Godric of the<br>East Kingdom to try to secure the date and day so that Countess Rowan can<br>start spreading the word as early as possible. Also I know Christophe of<br>Grey has volunteered to get the announcements into the Pennsic Independent<br>as well. As we get closer to Pennsic, we can finalize our list of Marshal's<br>and targets. It looks like we are going with the theme of "Alice in<br>Wonderland" so we will need to coordinate target faces for all targets being<br>offered for the shoot. THL Seamus has agreed to help me with the scorecards<br>so they can actually be read this year, Lol.. <br><br><br><br>So, looks like things are shaping up. I want to thank everyone for the help<br>and offers to help. It is you that made this successful last year and will<br>make it even better this year!<br><br><br><br>Talk with you soon..<br><br><br><br>THL Janyn Fletcher<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20120120/cf7e91b6/attachment.html">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20120120/cf7e91b6/attachment.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:15:19 -0500 (EST)<br>From: <a href="mailto:loreleielkins@aol.com">loreleielkins@aol.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>, <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Archers] St. Sebastian's II Shoot update<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:8CEA655DBB25571-2038-165A3@webmail-m162.sysops.aol.com">8CEA655DBB25571-2038-165A3@webmail-m162.sysops.aol.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Well done, Jay!!!! Well done Atlantia!!<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Jay Nardone <<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>><br>To: archers <<a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>><br>Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:18 pm<br>Subject: [Archers] St. Sebastian's II Shoot update<br><br><br><br>Hello everyone, just wanted to send an update to the planning for this year?s shoot. As most of you already have seen, our list of volunteers continues to grow as we move forward. I am working on prizes for the winners and all helping Marshal?s of the shoot. I have contacted Lord Godric of the East Kingdom to try to secure the date and day so that Countess Rowan can start spreading the word as early as possible. Also I know Christophe of Grey has volunteered to get the announcements into the Pennsic Independent as well. As we get closer to Pennsic, we can finalize our list of Marshal?s and targets. It looks like we are going with the theme of ?Alice in Wonderland? so we will need to coordinate target faces for all targets being offered for the shoot. THL Seamus has agreed to help me with the scorecards so they can actually be read this year, Lol?. <br><br>So, looks like things are shaping up. I want to thank everyone for the help and offers to help. It is you that made this successful last year and will make it even better this year!<br><br>Talk with you soon?.<br><br>THL Janyn Fletcher<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Archers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20120121/bef56251/attachment-0001.htm" target="_blank">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20120121/bef56251/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:35:02 -0500<br>From: "John Atkins" <<a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>><br>To: "'Jay Nardone'" <<a href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>>,<br> <<a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Archers] St. Sebastian's II Shoot update<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:002101ccd841$7af19bb0$70d4d310$@triad.rr.com">002101ccd841$7af19bb0$70d4d310$@triad.rr.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Cool beans Janyn. As long as you have Seamus on board you have the Mad<br>Hatter on board! Hahahahaha<br><br><br><br>cog<br><br><br><br>From: <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Jay Nardone<br>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:19 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>Subject: [Archers] St. Sebastian's II Shoot update<br><br><br><br>Hello everyone, just wanted to send an update to the planning for this<br>year's shoot. As most of you already have seen, our list of volunteers<br>continues to grow as we move forward. I am working on prizes for the winners<br>and all helping Marshal's of the shoot. I have contacted Lord Godric of the<br>East Kingdom to try to secure the date and day so that Countess Rowan can<br>start spreading the word as early as possible. Also I know Christophe of<br>Grey has volunteered to get the announcements into the Pennsic Independent<br>as well. As we get closer to Pennsic, we can finalize our list of Marshal's<br>and targets. It looks like we are going with the theme of "Alice in<br>Wonderland" so we will need to coordinate target faces for all targets being<br>offered for the shoot. THL Seamus has agreed to help me with the scorecards<br>so they can actually be read this year, Lol.. <br><br><br><br>So, looks like things are shaping up. I want to thank everyone for the help<br>and offers to help. 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