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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Okay, so Lorelei said its being handled so let’s put this one to rest for now then. There is no reason to “pile on” and we will wait to see what happens. Again, those who know me know that I am all about the rules and I couldn’t agree more that no one person should be able to break those rules for whatever reason. Let’s give them some time now to work this out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Respectfully, Janyn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cameron deGrey<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 02, 2011 1:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Holly Gibbons<br><b>Cc:</b> archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Ceridwyn and the IKAC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sorry to add a voice to what seems to be well in hand.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>However, I feel compelled to add my view that no one person, regardless of station, should wield power in a vacuum. If someone acts in such a way that affects others directly and especially in an adverse way, that person should be compelled to explain their actions for good or ill. There are channels, rules, and expectations.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On a personal note, rules are meant to be broken, but not to the detriment of others. That we have a gifted archer in our midst should be appreciated. There has to be a way to deal with this.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I hope to have not muddied the water any more, and I trust deeply this matter is in hand.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In general, we should cast no stones until the accused proves their unworthiness.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cameron deGrey<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Holly Gibbons <<a href="mailto:holly0920@yahoo.com">holly0920@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Greetings to the list:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>I have tried to steer clear of public comment on the issue involving my daughter, Ceridwyn, and her IKAC score which is being held for unknown reasons. I appreciate the assistance of Lorelei, who is ever diplomatic and helpful, and other friends who have kindly intervened on Ceridwyn’s behalf.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>I need only to make a few points to clarify the emails of yesterday so as to head off any confusion.</span><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Two years ago as a 10-year-old Ceridwyn's 199 youth score was not posted as Lorenzo decided she should be shooting as an adult despite her age and her 14-lb bow. The yeoman category was subsequently created - - what we at the Needwood Forest Archery Company called the "Ceridwyn" rule, to allow young ones to be able to compete against other young archers around the known world but at adult distances. She chose this year to shoot "up" a category and compete in the new 15-and-under yeoman division.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Ceridwyn's IKAC score (the unposted one) is a 179 shot at adult distances. This represents a very, very good score for her - - one of the royal rounds was a 77 and the other a 57 - - but well within her general shooting this season (she is ranked bowman). This score is still 21 points under the limit of 200 set by Lorenzo for the division. There is no sandbagging going on here - - Ceridwyn is justifiably very proud of that day's shooting.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>There have been a number of inquiries made by several concerned parties and Lorenzo has chosen to remain silent, not answering any and not following the procedures posted on his site. The result is that we <u>do not know</u> why the score is not posted. I think it best to let this go now. Anyone who was at the Baltimore Traditional Bowman shoot last May has seen Ceridwyn in action. Now you all, her archery community, know about her fine, if not acknowledged, IKAC for this year. She loves archery and you will continue to see her out and about the ranges when she is not dancing. I am so sorry this has become a cause célèbre, but it is also a lesson for her as well as a reminder to us all that, in the sca as in the mundane world, there is always hypocrisy and politics can render results both ugly and unfair. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Nuala <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Archers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>