<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Glad to hear it! All hail our DEM!<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:53 PM, <a href="mailto:loreleielkins@aol.com">loreleielkins@aol.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">Forces are at work to resolve the issue. Please stand by.
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<div>This has been a public service announcement from you friendly neighborhood DEM for Target Archery<br>
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From: Janyn Fletcher <<a href="mailto:janynfletcher@comcast.net">janynfletcher@comcast.net</a>><br>
To: fenrisulven <<a href="mailto:fenrisulven@comcast.net">fenrisulven@comcast.net</a>>; 'lady esperanza' <<a href="mailto:lady_esperanza@cox.net">lady_esperanza@cox.net</a>><br>
Cc: archers <<a href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org">archers@atlantia.sca.org</a>><br>
Sent: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 3:51 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA-Archery] Winter Challenge<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">What am I missing here? Why is this silliness allowed to continue in our kingdom? If the rule is based on age and Ceridwyn qualifies, there should be no issue and the score should stand, period! I am very disappointed in what I am seeing.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org?">mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:fenrisulven@comcast.net">fenrisulven@comcast.net</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> lady esperanza<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org">archers@atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA-Archery] Winter Challenge</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:">Thats exactly what was done. He was emailed at least three times by two people [not me] and gently asked about the omission. He won't respond. Hence my dig that he's hiding from a 13 year old. By his own rules, if there is an issue, "the submitter of the score will be informed" or "I will inform the marshal":</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:">[Other Important Rules - Section 6]</span><span style="font-family:"></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:">"The Keeper of the IKAC retains the right to question any score submitted... If this happens, the submitter of the score will be informed<strong><span style="font-family:"> </span></strong>of the decision, and a mention of this fact will be posted on the web site, so that others may provide input, if necessary"</span><span style="font-family:"></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:">[Scoring]</span><span style="font-family:"></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:">"I reserve the right to reject any score for any reason. If a score is rejected, I will inform the marshal of the fact and try to get more information regarding individual scores if they are well outside the mean"</span><span style="font-family:"></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:">And I get the whole "gateway to encourage youth archery, not for ringers" concept. My own opinion is that she should just move to the adult divisions. But he won't even reply to polite and courteous inquiries about this. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:">Oh well. At least its a good life lesson for Ceridwyn about fairness and integrity. Kinda tough for a 13 year old to deal with, but perhaps better in the long run.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:">Cheers</span></div>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:">"lady esperanza" <<a href="mailto:lady_esperanza@cox.net">lady_esperanza@cox.net</a>><br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:fenrisulven@comcast.net">fenrisulven@comcast.net</a>, <a href="mailto:loreleielkins@aol.com">loreleielkins@aol.com</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org">archers@atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 1, 2011 2:34:43 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA-Archery] Winter Challenge<br>
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If it was me I would have emailed him a few weeks after it didn't show up or at least after scores were approved a few times and it didn't show up. <br>
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Cut and pasted from the Rules: (Bottom Section of Note 3)<br>
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Take an interest, and check the IKAC web site to make sure your score is posted. Please notify the Keeper and/or his Deputy as soon as possible of any problems. Since we are all volunteers in our Society, please keep that in mind and always try to be corteous. Remember that mistakes may not be anyone`s fault, and that everyone, the Keeper most of all, very much wants to ensure that all archers` scores are posted promptly and accurately. <br>
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---- <a href="mailto:fenrisulven@comcast.net">fenrisulven@comcast.net</a> wrote: <br>
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> I take it Lorenzo is still hiding out from a 13 year old girl? :P <br>
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> At the very least, he could abide by his rules and respond (privately) as to why he won't accept her scores. <br>
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> Perhaps some of his peers can nudge him in a more honorable direction. <br>
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> ----- Original Message -----<br>
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> From: <a href="mailto:loreleielkins@aol.com">loreleielkins@aol.com</a> <br>
> To: <a href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org">archers@atlantia.sca.org</a> <br>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 6:25:55 AM <br>
> Subject: [Archers] Fwd: [SCA-Archery] Winter Challenge <br>
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> If anyone is interested, here is the Winter Challenge hosted by the Mid. It's fun to shoot if you haven't done so before. Don't forget though, we've got until December 1st to shoot IKACs. Keep em coming! I'm going to host some child and youth IKACs this Sunday and next. <br>
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> -----Original Message----- <br>
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> From: obsidian <<a href="mailto:obsidian@raex.com">obsidian@raex.com</a>> <br>
> To: sca-archery <<a href="mailto:sca-archery@yahoogroups.com">sca-archery@yahoogroups.com</a>>; MidrealmArchery <<a href="mailto:MidrealmArchery@yahoogroups.com">MidrealmArchery@yahoogroups.com</a>>; greenwood <<a href="mailto:greenwood@midrealm.org">greenwood@midrealm.org</a>> <br>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 2:33 pm <br>
> Subject: [SCA-Archery] Winter Challenge <br>
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> Greetings one and all. <br>
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> It's that time of year again - the Winter Challenge site is once more up and running, and the competition will begin tomorrow. Read the rules at: <br>
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> <a href="http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/wint.html" target="_blank">http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/wint.html</a> <br>
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> and see the results accumulate at: <br>
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> Last year we had an even 300 participants, and I'd like to see that increased this season if possible. <br>
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> Hope to hear from you all soon - <br>
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> Shoot straight, <br>
> Lorelei <br>
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> -----Original Message----- <br>
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> From: obsidian <<a href="mailto:obsidian@raex.com">obsidian@raex.com</a>> <br>
> To: sca-archery <<a href="mailto:sca-archery@yahoogroups.com">sca-archery@yahoogroups.com</a>>; MidrealmArchery <<a href="mailto:MidrealmArchery@yahoogroups.com">MidrealmArchery@yahoogroups.com</a>>; greenwood <<a href="mailto:greenwood@midrealm.org">greenwood@midrealm.org</a>> <br>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 2:33 pm <br>
> Subject: [SCA-Archery] Winter Challenge <br>
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> Greetings one and all. <br>
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> It's that time of year again - the Winter Challenge site is once more up and running, and the competition will begin tomorrow. Read the rules at: <br>
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> <a href="http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/wint.html" target="_blank">http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/wint.html</a> <br>
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> and see the results accumulate at: <br>
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> <a href="http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/scor1112.html" target="_blank">http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/scor1112.html</a> <br>
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> Last year we had an even 300 participants, and I'd like to see that increased this season if possible. <br>
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> Hope to hear from you all soon - <br>
> Baron Nigel FitzMaurice, Winter Challenge guy <br>
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> "Ausculta, feminae novae in lacunis recumbens gladii dispensans non fundamentum pro formula administrationis est." <br>
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> <a href="http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/regindex.html" target="_blank">http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/regindex.html</a> <br>
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