I believe that is being a bit too harsh. Many things are "trial run" with a "possible" set of rules in a controlled test to see if the concept is even workable before going about hashing out the rules in full. And the concept had been kicked around before, even if the rules had not been fully written. I have personally been involved in similar tests before in archery, in armored, in siege, and I'm sure in every other community as well. Sometimes those tests are widely seen, other times they are hidden with only the lessons learned made known. <br>
<br>Now the final rules are being fully and openly discussed. Constructive critizism is always welcome, the key being constructive. If an idea is bad, back it up with reasons. I am sure Lorelei will consider all reasonable arguements and changes to the program.<br>
<br>Jonathas<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Holly Gibbons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holly0920@yahoo.com">holly0920@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(17, 17, 17);"><div>To my fellow archery marshals:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am in agreement with Eldred's thoughtful and insightful comments.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I, too, was under the impression that this new program was a proposal under consideration and that Atlantia's archery marshals were being asked for feedback, when in fact we have just heard the program's already decided and already announced and apparently already populated with at least one youth. It seems our opinions as marshals had and will have no bearing on the program which we are now asked to implement.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I know this is a top-down monarchy, this game we play, so I will gladly do whatever I'm told. But the hypocrisy kind of bothers me. Am I even allowed to voice this without fear that I am too insubordinate?</div>
<div>Nuala</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Original Message: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:48:10 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: Eldred AElfwald <<a href="mailto:dragonazure@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span><font color="#0000ff">dragonazure@yahoo.com</font></span></a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:archers@atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank"><span><font color="#0000ff">archers@atlantia.sca.org</font></span></a>, <a href="mailto:tazzi_693@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span><font color="#0000ff">tazzi_693@yahoo.com</font></span></a>, <a href="mailto:Geldamar@aol.com" target="_blank"><span><font color="#0000ff">Geldamar@aol.com</font></span></a>,<br>
<a href="mailto:loreleielkins@aol.com" target="_blank"><span><font color="#0000ff">loreleielkins@aol.com</font></span></a><br>Subject: Re: [Archers] Youth Target Archery Marshal Program<br>Greetings fellow archers and marshals!</div>
<div><br>Considering Their Majesties' desire to align the laws and policies of Atlantia, I would recommend setting the YTAM age at 16 years old.? This is the age they are permitted to authorize for heavy combat and the age at which the Chancellor of Youth Activities has set for their?Officers:<br>
1.7.2.9.2.2.1 All Chancellors Minor must be at least 16 years of age and a paid member of the SCA. <br><br>Also, does this program fall under the same rules and regulations as the Youth Activities programs? E.g. background checks?<br>
<br>I'm a little disturbed that the deed has been done without a discussion of the potential rules changes first. If we collectively agree to a policy that is contrary to what has been done, I have no problem "grandfathering" the existing marshals into the program because it would be unfair to force them out "ex post facto".<br>
</div>
<div>In service,<br>Eldred AElfwald<br></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
Archers mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
<a href="http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>