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<DIV><SPAN class=000100019-01062011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Thank
you Nuala for opening this can of worms. Being accused of often bringing
up only the negative let me say this, I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE! I
too, believe that many of our archery marshals could seriously use a "refresher
course". I have seen situations that were, at best, marginal, and some
that weren't even marginal! I've seen marshals "running the line" while
sitting 10 feet behind and 20 feet off the end of the line so they could be
sitting under a sun shade! I've seen marshals refuse perfectly good bows
because they did not know what they were inspecting. I've seen ranges that
I seriously questioned the safety of and was told "It's OK'. (For those
who are going to ask, yes, I did bring these issues to the attention of the
marshal at fault.) </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=000100019-01062011><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>And I believe Nuala is correct, every MIT
should, if at all possible, do a turn at a big war, or at least a big event,
i.e. War of the Wings, Kingdom Champion Shoot. Where else will they get
the exposure to such a variety of equipment as at one of these
events?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=000100019-01062011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Do I
think the archery marshals of Atlantia as a whole are ill equipped? Not at
all. I've done a few non-SCA shoots and some of them have been flat out
scary! We look like "the cowboy after OSHA" compared to them! But we
have a few marshals who serve as examples of this discussion (I've seen some out
of kingdom marshals who fit this scary definition as well).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=000100019-01062011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>As for
the age of youth marshals, I still think a mature 15 year old can do the
job. I've been coaching kids ice hockey teams for over 17 years now.
I've coached ages from 6 to 18 years old. I've worked with several kids 15
years old who would be excellent, conscientious marshals. I've also worked
with some kids at 18 who would scare me if they were a marshal! So
maturity is the operative word here along with a good screening
process.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Holly
Gibbons<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Archers] Youth
Target Archery Marshal Program<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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size=3 face=Garamond>Ok, so here's my humble opinion.</FONT></DIV>
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size=3 face=Garamond>Have we checked with the Thrown Weapons Marshallate? They
have had just such a program in place for years. I believe they do this at age
17. I love the concept of letting the capable and mature 16 and 17 year olds
get ready to hit the ground running. I actually do not think that 15 year olds
have the judgement thing down yet, but it truely depends so much on the
kid.</FONT></DIV>
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size=3 face=Garamond>I think archery marshals in general need more training,
lots more, no matter their age. No way are three MIT sessions enough whether
you are 16 or 56. I felt woefully underprepared with that so I did tons of
MITing before submitting paperwork. </FONT><FONT size=3 face=Garamond>It's one
thing to co-man a line, another to inspect bows, and another entirely to
design and run a shoot. I try not to run lines if I can help it because I
haven't got the voice and I am distractable. I'm a lot better at inspections
and my fav thing to do is make targets. So we have to know ourselves and our
weak suits, also, and that takes time and experience.</FONT></DIV>
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size=3 face=Garamond>I think MITs should have more training in running shoots
- - they should have to be an assistant to someone experienced in putting on a
shoot, setting up the course properly, making the targets, etc, before they
can do one themselves. I have seen too many safety issues crop up with new
Marshals putting on their first shoots! I had lots of help, I remember that.
As far as inspections, every MIT should have to spend a day at Pennsic or
another huge archery event and inspect every crowwbow under a watchful eye, if
they themselves shoot a handbow, and vice versa. Sheer numbers is what you
need.</FONT></DIV>
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size=3 face=Garamond>One other thing that has been really helpful to me is to
have another set of eyes and ears. Whenever I put on an event I want another
experienced marshal tagging me. I can take the ultimate responsibility but it
is incredibly valuable to have a backup to talk things over with.</FONT></DIV>
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size=3 face=Garamond>It's a little like graduated drivers' licences. So
definitely bring on the mature youth, but re-amp the overall
requirements! Thanks for a cool discussion, everybody. ...
Nuala</FONT></DIV>
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