Yes it was a confusing time to say the least. During Logan's last reign, by royal decree he decided to reclaim the title of "Archery Champion" to be awarded at the whims of the current Crowns, just as they choose the Rapier and Armored champion however they see fit, to include possibly not having one at all. <br>
<br>Originally he was planning on doing away with the traditions which had developed around the position. Myself and several others fought long and hard to maintain the traditions of the position, in the end that meant the title had to change. But the benefit is that it became a chartered Kingdom Notable added to Kingdom Law ( <a href="http://law.atlantia.sca.org/Law.html#F">http://law.atlantia.sca.org/Law.html#F</a> ), being written into Law it is less likely to be changed in the future, but had to be named in the likeness of the other Notables. Then came the fun of boiling the all tradition down to a sentence or two to be added to Kingdom Law.<br>
<br>In the end the traditional position survived intact but had to change names and now protected by Law, plus a second position also added. Both are worthy positions, one as the pinnacle of skill, the other as high recognition by our monarchs.<br>
<br>The two positions we have are:<br><br>The "<b>Royal Archer</b>" which is chosen each year by right of arms as the winner of the archery tournament run by the previous Royal Archer. The history and previous winners are recorded at:<br>
<a href="http://archery.atlantia.sca.org/royalarchers.html">http://archery.atlantia.sca.org/royalarchers.html</a><br><br>And<br><br>The "<b>Archery Champion</b>" which is chosen at the whims of each King and Queen for any qualities they see fit.The history and previous champions are recorded at:<br>
<a href="http://archery.atlantia.sca.org/champions.html">http://archery.atlantia.sca.org/champions.html</a><br><br><br>Hope this helps<br><br>Jonathas<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:13 AM, John Atkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cogworks@triad.rr.com">cogworks@triad.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Fen,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Welcome to the confused and befuddled crowd! In my experience
Royal anything, bard, brewer, scribe, etc., WAS a member of the current
court. Exceptions to that were the heavy champion and rapier
champion. Logan choose to call this position the Atlantian Archer
Champion, a name that had formerly refered to that individual who won the day
long shoot event named such. When he re-created that position, it actually
existed previously and I believe Samual Calvert was the first, the "other"
archer position, the one named for the individual winning the day long shoot
event, was named the Atlantian Royal Archer Champion. Clear?
No? More like muddy water. So, how to keep them staight? Easy,
I just remember than any member of the current court is the Royal whatever,
EXCEPT for the archery champion. They are the Atlantian champion and the
"other" champion is the Royal champion. They are
reversed.</font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">OK, my
head hurts now. Going away,</font></span></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">cog</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:fenrisulven@comcast.net" target="_blank">fenrisulven@comcast.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:fenrisulven@comcast.net" target="_blank">fenrisulven@comcast.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:04
AM<br><b>To:</b> John Atkins<br><b>Cc:</b> Siegfried;
<a href="mailto:archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank">archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Kingdom
Archery Champion Quiver<br><br></font></div>
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<p><br>"When Jonathas was the champion Logan re-instituted the
archery<br>champion position as a member of court. Logan choose to name
this<br>position Atlantian Archery Champion, thus the former Atlantian
Archery<br>Champion then became the Royal Archery Champion (this being
the<br>individual who won the day long shoot formerly known as the
Atlantian<br>Archery Champion shoot)."</p>
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<p>This always confuses my feeble mind. </p>
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<p>The Royal's archer is known as the Atlantian Archery Champion, </p>
<p>but the actual Atlantian Archery Champion is the Royal
Archer?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>er, right?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Seems backwards. Makes my head hurt. How do you remember which
is which?</p>
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<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Befuddled Fen</p></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
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