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face=Arial>Mungo,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=296070116-03052011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Good
stuff. Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=296070116-03052011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>cog</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Garth
G. Groff<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:02 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Archers] Target Thoughts
[Was; This looks FUN!!!]<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>M'Lord Christophe,<BR><BR>After a
while the material inside targets like these can become compressed. I had a
commercial "Yellow Jacket" target in my basement for a while, and it got very
hard in the center. Arrows were bouncing out all the time. I recently shot
with the folks from Caer Mear and River's Point on a public range with special
archery hay bale targets. Our host Lord Briain said those bales became really
badly compressed when people used air-soft guns against them (which they
aren't supposed to do on this range, but get away with it). We had only a few
bouncers though. Our bale was pretty new.<BR><BR>I finally retired my Yellow
Jacket, shook out the stuffing (felt again!), and used it to fill a cardboard
bicycle box. Even though I added several extra layers of cardboard
inside the box, it isn't hard enough and I now get blow-throughs. Since I
shoot indoors, this isn't a good idea. A smaller box packed tighter would work
better.<BR><BR>Right now I'm using a rubber cube target in the basement. Works
well, and the first face lasted more than a year. It will pull off any points
that aren't glued securely, or have any sort of lip at the shoulder end (i.e.
Ace faux-medieval points, of which there are several buried inside the rubber
now). <BR><BR>I just bought Isenfir a "Morrell Outdoor Target" (that's what it
is called, no stock number) for about $100. It is an archery foam core inside
a coated burlap bag which weighs about 50 lbs. and is big enough to hold our
standard FITA paper target. Arrows came out cleanly at our first shoot, and
there was no "target gunk" like with the pink or blue construction foam we
previously used. Lord Sebastiana G. Fanelli, with a bit of lumber holding from
me (he has all the cool power tools), built us a folding easel to hold this
monster. He used this target and easel combination in another kingdom, and
says the targets lasted for years. I'm really pleased. I still have the easel
plan, and if anyone wants to build this, just let me know and I see that you
get a copy. The total cost for the stand was about $23, plus $4 for a pair of
bungee cords to hold the Morrell target to the stand.<BR><BR>Kind
regards,<BR><BR><BR>Lord Mungo Napier, etc.<BR><BR>On 5/3/2011 8:12 AM, John
Atkins wrote:
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size=2>I<SPAN class=656490812-03052011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>nteresting Mungo. I have had the same lack of sticking
success with burlap bags (peanut bags from the local steak house) stuffed
with plastic bags. Wierd 'cuz they work pretty well for a while but
then begin to reject arrow penetration. At first I thought it might be
because I had also slipped a piece of cardboard down the front face to
provide a flat surface for the target face. But even with that removed
I still, on occasion, get the bounce back
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=656490812-03052011><FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial>BTW burlap bags stuffed with plastic shopping bags
are great targets that will last for a couple of
years.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">M'lady Lorelei and Noble Friends of
the Bow,<BR><BR>At our last practice on 24 April we had a 10-yard prize
shoot. Our target was a leprechaun left over from St. Patrick's Day (our
March shoot was called because of snow). The idea was to separate him from
his gold by hitting the coins in his pot (1 point each), or the single
coin in his hand (5 points). His pot itself was worth nothing, and any hit
even breaking a line on the leprechaun himself was a minus 2 points. You
can't kill a leprechaun with arrows (they're immortals you know), but you
can make them really mad.<BR><BR>So how did the shoot go? It was a
miserable failure. The leprechaun was made of felt in multiple layers, and
even with a 40 pound bow, some of my arrows bounced off the target. Other
archers had nothing but bounces. So here's the lesson: FELT TARGETS DON'T
WORK! I called the shoot closed and we switched to a Royal
Round.<BR><BR>This month we will massacre cutsy bunnies and chicks, but
they are NOT made of felt.<BR><BR>To those of you who are curious, we
usually open our practice with a 10-yard prize shoot at some sort of
novelty target; usually two rounds of six arrows. The highest scoring
adult and youth each win a prize provided by Lady Sarah Sinclair and
myself (we shoot, but our scores don't count--we're trying to get rid of
the stuff in the prize bag). The previous month's winners are also
disqualified, so more people have a chance to win. This is especially
important for the kids, since one pre-teen would win all the time. I
announce the time for the shoot on our email tree the week before
practice, and nobody is allowed to join in once the competition starts.
This was a positive way of getting all the archers to show up on time, and
it works much better than nagging.<BR><BR>Kind regards,<BR><BR><BR>Lord
Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir TA
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