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M'lady Nuala,<br>
<br>
Please accept my apology for any offense you feel. Absolutely none
was intended, and be assured that I TRY to carefully craft all
messages I send to avoid giving personal offense to anyone. <br>
<br>
The term "grudge match" was an unfortunate choice of words, and was
absolutely not intended to apply to you. I was thinking of a
competitive grudge between kingdoms. I have never thought that you
held a personal grudge against anyone. <br>
<br>
Whether we could politically and logistically hold an all-populace
novelty shoot at Pennsic is beyond me, and from what has developed
on this thread, it looks like it would be extremely difficult. In my
initial posting to you, I was expressing what I hoped we could do,
and was willing to participate in making it happen. If it is too
great a task to manage, especially for one person, I certainly
accept that. I commend you for stepping forward to attempt what you
have offered, and wouldn't want to see you crushed by trying to run
a shoot that is too large.<br>
<br>
With respect and kindness,<br>
<br>
<br>
Lord Mungo<br>
<br>
On 10/28/2010 9:49 PM, Holly Gibbons wrote:
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<div>Dear Archer-Comrade Napier:</div>
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<div>I almost fainted at your posting. Please allow me to defend
myself in this court of opinion. I have no grudge against
anyone, let alone the hard-working MIC's at Pennsic. Perhaps
you do not realize that I have shot with the champions team
for the last two years. </div>
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<div>I must reiterate again that what I am working for is a
kingdom/individual championship shoot that is outside the war
and the war points. I am completely inspired by the thrown
weapons range at Pennsic. We come together but once a year
like this: with two weeks and hundreds of acres at our
disposal, it seems we could have a war PLUS have a known world
archery championship as well. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Anyone who has actually designed and run one of those
"famous legendary Atlantain populace all-day archery shoots"
can tell you that it is a full-time job for months in advance
and takes at least three days to run. We, all of us together,
cannot do this at Pennsic.</div>
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<div>I have given brief thought to the numbers. If you have 8
stations, teams of four, and it takes a team 1.5 hours to
shoot, and you want the shooting to take no more than 4 hours
so you can setup/takedown in one day, you cannot manage more
than 70 or so archers, tops. There is just no feasible means
of holding an open populace shoot at Pennsic, in addition to
the one already in place.</div>
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<div>My vision would be to have a novelty shoot as an adjunct to
all the other goings-on at the range, a shoot that would have
6 to 8 really challenging targets, very difficult stuff, to
allow Atlantia's finest to show their stuff and have fun at
Pennsic, since by convention and tradition, for whatever
probably very valid reasons, so many are not in on the war
champs team.</div>
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<div>It is really very simple, at heart. Please do not imply
that I hold grudges, or wish to work at cross-purposes to the
Pennsic war and the Archery War Point. I only hope to enrich
the range and its offerings, to the happiness and delight of
Atlantia's finest archers. I cannot bear to sit at Pennsic
missing my archery-partners-in-crime who won't spend their
vacations there because they cannot enjoy their favorite game!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Please believe me that I hold no prejudice or judgement
against beginning archers: I was recently one myself. But
then, at that time, I personally found more than enough
challenge on the populace range with the war points
targets and with the odd novelty shoot for variety. </div>
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<div>Nuala of Needwood Forest<br>
<br>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 07:19:23 -0400<br>
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M'lady Nuala,<br>
<br>
I can appreciate that you want a chance for our best archers
to compete <br>
against the best from other kingdoms. With respect, do we just
want to <br>
host a shoot for a small group of elite archers who have been
snubbed by <br>
the system? This sounds like a grudge match, which is o.k. in
its place, <br>
but benefits only a small group of people.<br>
<br>
Rather, I would like to see Atlantia offer a great shoot (even
if it is <br>
modest in scope) to everybody to share the fun we have with as
many <br>
people as possible, and with minimal elitism. A really
well-crafted <br>
populace shoot would be a wonderful gift from Atlantia to all
the <br>
archers at Pennsic. It could really show the other kingdoms
what sort of <br>
archery program we run, and what sort of great people our
archers are. <br>
To my mind, that's a far better shoot than a grudge match.<br>
<br>
I can appreciate that a general novelty shoot could be bigger
than you, <br>
or even a group, can realistically do at Pennsic. That's why I
suggest a <br>
modest size (like 8-10 really well crafted targets), which
would allow <br>
more archers to run through the course in a day.<br>
<br>
Before we go any further with this proposal, it would be wise
if we all <br>
agreed on what sort of tournament we want to present, and what
we expect <br>
to get from it.<br>
Kind regards, and with great respect,<br>
Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir TA Marshal<br>
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