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color:#1F497D'>This thread has gone terribly wrong, all of a sudden many are
taking personal issue with a simple discussion. This is why I suggested in the
beginning that we save discussion until a few things are complete first. I don’t
know of a soul here who has bad intent in their postings yet once again
personal offenses are being taken. I think we should wait to see number one if
this is even feasible and will be allowed in a manner that is conducive to it
being productive, two we select a leader for this event to spear head what and
how this happens. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Holly
Gibbons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Pennsic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dear Archer-Comrade Napier:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I almost fainted at your posting. Please allow me to defend
myself in this court of opinion. I have no grudge against anyone, let alone the
hard-working MIC's at Pennsic. Perhaps you do not realize that I have shot with
the champions team for the last two years. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I must reiterate again that what I am working for is a
kingdom/individual championship shoot that is outside the war and the war
points. I am completely inspired by the thrown weapons range at Pennsic. We
come together but once a year like this: with two weeks and hundreds of acres
at our disposal, it seems we could have a war PLUS have a known world archery
championship as well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Anyone who has actually designed and run one of those
"famous legendary Atlantain populace all-day archery shoots" can tell
you that it is a full-time job for months in advance and takes at least three
days to run. We, all of us together, cannot do this at Pennsic.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I have given brief thought to the numbers. If you have
8 stations, teams of four, and it takes a team 1.5 hours to shoot, and you want
the shooting to take no more than 4 hours so you can setup/takedown in one
day, you cannot manage more than 70 or so archers, tops. There is
just no feasible means of holding an open populace shoot at Pennsic, in
addition to the one already in place.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>My vision would be to have a novelty shoot as an adjunct to
all the other goings-on at the range, a shoot that would have 6 to 8 really
challenging targets, very difficult stuff, to allow Atlantia's finest to show
their stuff and have fun at Pennsic, since by convention and tradition, for
whatever probably very valid reasons, so many are not in on the war champs
team.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>It is really very simple, at heart. Please do not imply that
I hold grudges, or wish to work at cross-purposes to the Pennsic war and the
Archery War Point. I only hope to enrich the range and its offerings, to the
happiness and delight of Atlantia's finest archers. I cannot bear to sit at
Pennsic missing my archery-partners-in-crime who won't spend their vacations
there because they cannot enjoy their favorite game!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Please believe me that I hold no prejudice or judgement
against beginning archers: I was recently one myself. But then, at that time, I
personally found more than enough challenge on the populace range with the war
points targets and with the odd novelty shoot for variety. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Nuala of Needwood Forest<br>
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Original Message: 2<br>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 07:19:23 -0400<br>
From: "Garth G. Groff" <<a href="mailto:ggg9y@virginia.edu">ggg9y@virginia.edu</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Archers] Pennsic<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4CC95C3B.3070504@virginia.edu">4CC95C3B.3070504@virginia.edu</a>><br>
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M'lady Nuala,<br>
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I can appreciate that you want a chance for our best archers to compete <br>
against the best from other kingdoms. With respect, do we just want to <br>
host a shoot for a small group of elite archers who have been snubbed by <br>
the system? This sounds like a grudge match, which is o.k. in its place, <br>
but benefits only a small group of people.<br>
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Rather, I would like to see Atlantia offer a great shoot (even if it is <br>
modest in scope) to everybody to share the fun we have with as many <br>
people as possible, and with minimal elitism. A really well-crafted <br>
populace shoot would be a wonderful gift from Atlantia to all the <br>
archers at Pennsic. It could really show the other kingdoms what sort of <br>
archery program we run, and what sort of great people our archers are. <br>
To my mind, that's a far better shoot than a grudge match.<br>
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I can appreciate that a general novelty shoot could be bigger than you, <br>
or even a group, can realistically do at Pennsic. That's why I suggest a <br>
modest size (like 8-10 really well crafted targets), which would allow <br>
more archers to run through the course in a day.<br>
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Before we go any further with this proposal, it would be wise if we all <br>
agreed on what sort of tournament we want to present, and what we expect <br>
to get from it.<br>
Kind regards, and with great respect,<br>
Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir TA Marshal<o:p></o:p></p>
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