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color:#1F497D'>Two things here….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I must have missed the part about beginners, I would say if they
are not welcomed we should not even hold this. I typically help around 20-40
beginners every year at Pennsic, and it is one of my loves. It is very
rewarding to see them have fun and shoot and also be saved from the “grilling”
that the East marshal’s love to impose on them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Secondly, the area behind the marshal’s tent with the
trailers is where I have asked for the last 2 years to have re-arranged to accommodate
more room for other things. Was met with great resistance and that was that,
hoping the new blood at least gives us a chance!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Holly
Gibbons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archers] Pennsic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>Dear Comrades-in-Bows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>Wow! SO many good ideas. Thank you Rowan for your boosterism,
thank you Mika for your endless and extremely helpful wisdom, thank you Janyn
and Bright Hills, for always being ready to work, thank you all archers for
taking this on, thank you Lorelei, Fearless Leader.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>I agree with Mika on the back 40. It was only a vain hope to get
the whole range. There's plenty of room back around the trailers to have 10 or
12 stations if they'll let us. As to targets, we don't usually use butts except
for warmups and folks can do that on the regular range. My standing targets are
all foam and cardboard and strap to rebar. Because of this I would have to say
that I don't think you can have every archer at Pennsic shoot this thing - -
how many of us are there? The targets might not last 1000 shots each. You can
also have a limited # of shots to preserve targets. Like Reynard's shoots with
one arrow per target. If you shoot 8 arrows per archer and there are 100
archers, you definitely have a target-falling-apart problem. I adore
Luce's ground snakes, but 800 shots?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>So while I agree that elitism is not what we want here, I would
vote that the shoot be restricted to bowmen and above. The targets are going to
be difficult, arrows will be lost, and we will have lots of archers to get
through the shoot. I am not really interested in running a gigantic event for
everyone, as fun as that would be: I am interested in having an expert-level
kingdom/individual known world championship that is completely ouside the
Pennsic war stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>As to individuals, kingdoms, averages, etc. Listen, if we let
Mika's score be the average for his Kingdom, this competition is already over!
So I think you all shoot for an individual score and then you can sum the best
10 scores (or pick 5 or another number) for each kingdom for the kingdom
competition. So Mika, you might have to drag out some more westerners to
shoot with you! And BTW, the day we pick has to be a day that does NOT have
combat archery going on :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>(One last thought on the back 40 - - you would probably have
to shut down the "youth" (I know it's not called that anymore, but
you know what I mean) range to fully utilize the back field behind it. Just a
caution. You'd need that space and I don't think there's 100 yards but my
memory for the space isn't great.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>If those of you out there can get the politics under control, I
volunteer to run the advertising and be the shoot/target
coordinator. I know we can count on lots of good targets from Atlantian
archers. I agree with Lorelei about this being a lot of work, but many hands
make light work, that's why Jonathas' idea of everyone just bringing and being
responsible for one target is so brilliant. I don't think we need two days. Set
up in the am, shoot, take down. Again, we will not be able to handle an
unlimited number of archers without giving up too much of our Pennsic time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>{An aside: It's sad that all that effort making targets and
setting up a big shoot already goes into the champs competition and then
we cannot use it for this shoot - - but the politics are unsurmountable, I guess.
But really, the very nicest thing for the Mid/East Pandas to do would be to let
"Atlantia and other Kingdoms" have a third champs team of their
own - - something we have heard here has been tried unsuccessfully before.
Last summer only 7 Atlantians got to shoot while 28 Easters did. Therein the
rub. Do those guys have any idea how much deep, profound unhappiness this
policy causes for Atlantian Archers, all of us? I find it so hard to believe
that they really want all this bad karma swirling around the champs shoot every
year when a solution is right beofre them. If we had our own team, with 35
archers on it, as each the Mid and East do, there would be more than
enough happy, happy Atlantian archers!}<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>I'm getting all worked up. Time to go shoot. ps: See you at
Holiday Faire, Lorelei!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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