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<DIV>I agree that the TA Marshall in Charge needs to communicate with the Autocrat as to the needs for a suitable site for archery. I think one of the biggest problems is that people like to "stretch" the rule in order to be able to accommodate a shoot. Let's face it archery on site means more money. I think each of us as Atlantia Marshalls should refuse to shoot a range that is not suitable and ask for a refund.<BR> </DIV>Best regards,
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<DIV>Lady Katarzyna Witkowska</DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV>"The angels attend no human sport save archery." --the Prophet Muhammed
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Stephen Kiefert <lanhamlaw@att.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> archers@atlantia.sca.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wed, September 15, 2010 9:42:14 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....<BR></FONT><BR>
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<TD vAlign=top>Ideally, you need to go the site ahead of time and tell the autocrat which area would be a legal range if they want archery. This is what happened at Assessment, where he planned on using the archery range already there and luckily I went by and had to tell him that it was not even close to safe so we arranged to use another area.<BR><BR>For future, sometimes there is a class at University on running an event and archery range size could be mentioned there.<BR><BR>Stefan<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 9/15/10, Jay Nardone <I><jaynardone@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Jay Nardone <jaynardone@comcast.net><BR>Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....<BR>To: loreleielkins@aol.com, archers@atlantia.sca.org<BR>Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 8:12 PM<BR><BR>
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<P class=yiv824361007MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Lorelei all great points! I would like to add that one of the biggest issues I see is the lack of understanding by many autocrats. I know we have discussed this but I would like to see implement some way to train autocrats on the new safety rules and why we can’t simply “stuff” archery in the back 40 anymore just because they want it out of the way. Not finger pointing here at all but I have personally witnessed this on numerous occasions again this year. After talking with the autocrats, they were unaware of the new rules changes and why we needed a more suitable area. I would hate to pile another requirement on autocrats but I’m seriously wondering if we can get them to take the archery marshal’s class or hold a special one so they can understand the safety aspects. My shoot in October in the Barony is basically being left up to us marshal’s of each activity
to work out concerning the layout of the site. I have repeatedly asked that this be worked out prior to us all getting there. I submitted my layout and suggestion and fear it will be a free for all when we all get there. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=yiv824361007MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I think if we can get them more involved with us, they will understand our needs better…..</SPAN></P>
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<P class=yiv824361007MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Janyn</SPAN></P>
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<P class=yiv824361007MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>loreleielkins@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:00 PM<BR><B>To:</B> archers@atlantia.sca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Archers] I'd like to point out.....</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=yiv824361007MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Greetings,<BR><BR>Many of us have discussed on and off about the lack of recognition or the seeming lack of respect that the archery community often appears to get. I want to address this. First, it is the nature of our discipline that causes us to be relegated to the back-40 of most events. For safety reasons this is not a bad thing, but it does make archery out of sight (and therefore out of mind) for many of the populace. How do we get around this? <BR><BR>Easy answer: It is up to us to change things. Each and every one of us. Period.<BR><BR>Hard answer:<BR><BR>1. Invite Royalty/your Baronage to visit the archery range....every event, every time. They will eventually make it out there.<BR><BR>2. Make sure archery awards, results of shoots and tournaments get recognized in court on equal level with other disciplines. Talk to the people you need to ahead
of time. "I will be awarding the prize for the shoot....." or "Could you have the Baroness award the prize for....."<BR><BR>3. If necessary, write it out for the autocrat/herald/Baronage, etc., who, what, where, they did, why it was amazing.<BR><BR>4. Submit fellow archers for awards. If there is not an award specifically for archery, put them in for something service oriented and spell out how their efforts are a service and how they enhance The Dream.<BR><BR>5. Talk up archery prior to events. Make sure your information is posted on event fliers, but post that to all the e-lists as well, more than once.<BR><BR>6. Invite newcomers to the range (make provisions for this ahead of time.) If they loved it (and they will if you're doing it right), they will tell everyone about it and come back.<BR><BR>7. Look Good!! Okay, yeah...we already look good....we're archers, its in our nature. BUT, go the extra effort so that when
people see you there with your kit they say, "Wow, s/he looks great. I want to be like them."<BR><BR>8. Encourage youth to the range...encourage the non-fighting community to the range. Many people want to participate in an art of warfare but will not put on the armor. No problem, we'll give them archery.<BR><BR>9. At all times, be a good representative of the Atlantian archery community. Hold yourself to a higher standard. Don't piss and moan in public about not getting the glory. Instead, make it happen.<BR><BR>10. Teach archery, Teach atlatl, Teach our youth, share, encourage, cheer archery. Loud. Make noise. <BR><BR>11. Make sure at every Collegium and University or even at events that there are archery related classes offered. Request them, or offer to teach them. History, shooting technique, fletching, target making, point smithing, how to build your kit, whatever your passion is.<BR><BR>I'm sure other
people will have additions to this list and I welcome your thoughts. I understand that at one time in this Kingdom archery was perceived as the read headed step child of SCA activities. Many people have worked long and hard to bring it to the status it now enjoys. It has come a long way, in both participation and legitimacy. Do your part to make sure archery is always in the forefront at events, demos, awards, etc. <BR><BR>Also, if you have not yet participated in the SCA Census. It can be found here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SCA2010Census I encourage you to fill it out.<BR><BR>In service to the archery community in Atlantia and to The Dream<BR>Lorelei Greenleafe</SPAN></P></DIV>
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