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<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>I agree as well – nothing beats a well-trained,
safety-conscientious marshal!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>-Feline’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p>On Sep 16, 2010 4:52 PM, "Jay Nardone" <<a
href="mailto:jaynardone@comcast.net">jaynardone@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> COG, right on the money again, can't say I disagree!<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>]
On Behalf Of John Atkins<br>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:38 PM<br>
> To: 'Janyn Fletcher'; 'Garth G. Groff'; <a
href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> All on this list, this thread brings up old thoughts and some hard
feelings<br>
> for me. However, without getting into embarassing details let me just say<br>
> that from my point of view the solution to this entire issue is QUALITY OF<br>
> MARSHAL. We have had situations in the past that resulted in either<br>
> dangerous situations, stupid rules, or embarassment for the archery<br>
> community due, again in my opinion, to bad marshalling. If Atlantian<br>
> archery marshals are of quality and fully understand that being an event
TA<br>
> MIC means you are the SAFETY OFFICER and not God for a Day, then these<br>
> situations would not come up. Good marshals contact the event autocrat<br>
> BEFORE the event to discuss archery needs. Kaytarzyna says she has driven<br>
> hours to investigate a new to her site. That's the type of quality<br>
> marshalling I'm referring to. Setting targets in areas without<br>
> consideration of the overshoot zones is not quality marshalling. No matter<br>
> how many rules we write we will NEVER be able to write a rule to prevent<br>
> stupid or poor quality.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> cog with some very strong opinions on this<br>
> subject.................................................<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Janyn<br>
> Fletcher<br>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:55 PM<br>
> To: 'Garth G. Groff'; <a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....<br>
> <br>
> Lord Mungo, as much as I agree with you I can say that is not the case, at<br>
> least today in Atlantia. The incidents I keep referring to as evidence<br>
> occurred because of two factors, 1. Autocrat "shoe-horned"
archery into<br>
> places it was unsafe and should have not been. 2. The MIC, even though I<br>
> know they meant well did not understand the safety rules and even made a<br>
> comment to me when I challenged the range setup that, "The Baron said
it was<br>
> alright." One ended up alright after we adjusted the range to be
safe, the<br>
> other someone almost got shot. If I had my way I would have pulled those<br>
> warrant's immediately and asked that those two marshall's have someone<br>
> assigned to them to help them get up to speed. Both are still current<br>
> marshal's in Atlantia. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Might sound harsh but I don't ever want to be the one that almost shot<br>
> someone because of any excuse!<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Janyn<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: <a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Garth G.<br>
> Groff<br>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:36 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org">Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Lady Kaytarzyna,<br>
> <br>
> Are you suggesting that at a tournament we marshals, as participating<br>
> archers, should refuse to shoot? Absolutely! But even more than that, the<br>
> marshal-in-charge MUST refuse to set up and open a range on a space that<br>
> does not meet kingdom safety standards. Period. Not to do so would
endanger<br>
> the MIC's warrant, and in case of an accident, would open the Kingdom (not<br>
> to mention the MIC) up to all sorts of Society sanctions and possible
legal<br>
> troubles.<br>
> <br>
> Closing the range would undoubtedly cause a lot of hard feelings, a
blizzard<br>
> of emails, probably not be taken seriously by the powers that be (outside
of<br>
> the archery community), and possibly cause archery to be excluded at that<br>
> event in the future, but it is the only possible course of action. <br>
> <br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Lord Mungo Napier, Shire of Isenfir Target Archery Marshal<br>
> <br>
> On 9/16/2010 9:17 AM, Katherine Hawkins wrote: <br>
> <br>
> I agree that the TA Marshall in Charge needs to communicate with the<br>
> Autocrat as to the needs for a suitable site for archery. I think one of<br>
> the biggest problems is that people like to "stretch" the rule
in order to<br>
> be able to accommodate a shoot. Let's face it archery on site means more<br>
> money. I think each of us as Atlantia Marshalls should refuse to shoot a<br>
> range that is not suitable and ask for a refund.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Best regards, <br>
> <br>
> Katarzyna<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Lady Katarzyna Witkowska<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <o:p></o:p></p>
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