<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><P>One observation I have been noticing is that many Atalatler's are using arrow field points for their points. Not a safety issue by any means but after inspection, the FOC (forward of center) is way off and the bolts tend to be tail heavy. They fly like crap this way and really need much heavier points to have correct FOC. Sorry couldnt help it from an arrow making weenie :P</P>
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<P><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Siegfried" <siegfried@crossbows.biz><BR>To: archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:43:30 AM<BR>Subject: [Archers] Tips was: Re: Safety advice on atal-atals and crossbows<BR><BR>Actually, I should point out, that Metal Tips are not REQUIRED on any<BR>ammo. One can shoot untipped arrows (or fire hardened as I've seen<BR>before) if one wants.<BR><BR>Don't tend to fly too well, but ... archers choice there. The only<BR>rule about tips states that you can't have tips that will cause<BR>excessive damage to targets. a sharpened wooden point, will obviously<BR>not (especially since it may quite often just bounce off *grin*)<BR><BR>>From the SCA rules:<BR>3. No broadheads or tips that cause excessive damage to the targets<BR>shall be used, except for special competitions using these heads with<BR>the permission of the Target Archery Marshal-in-Charge and the Kingdom<BR>Archery Marshal.<BR><BR>Siegfried<BR><BR><BR>On 6/30/10 11:33 AM, Charles Oliff wrote:<BR>> I hadn't heard before that metal tips were required. Just that they<BR>> were optional. <BR>> That being said, I've seen and used a number of darts without metal tips<BR>> and had no safety issues with them. The only remote concern I can think<BR>> of is if the shaft hits a hard object just right that it might possibly<BR>> splinter, but I've never seen that happen, and I would expect that the<BR>> dart would, more than likely, have already been showing signs of<BR>> cracking that would hopefully be caught during inspection. (of course,<BR>> shattering can happen with arrows too, even with tips)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Archers mailing list<BR>> Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR>> http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org<BR><BR>-- <BR>Barun Siegfried Sebastian Faust - Barony of Highland Foorde - Atlantia<BR>http://hf.atlantia.sca.org/ - http://crossbows.biz/ - http://eliw.com/<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Archers mailing list<BR>Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR>http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org<BR></P></div></body></html>