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Thank you, everyione who replied, botht to the list, and privately! i've got lots of useful info and ideas! Not sure why I thought bodkin points were illegal - guess it was just because no one I've shot with has used them until recently, and those are the short ones.<BR>
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It'd be nice if I knew someone up here in the north who could make me some, but I guess I"ll have to just buy them online.<BR>
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Again, thanks for the help!<BR>
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Reyne<BR><BR><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#ff0000>A true friend is someone who knows all your faults and habits, and loves you anyway.</FONT><BR><STRONG><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" color=#339966 size=4>Per chevron purpure and vert, two sheaves of arrows and a griffin argent</FONT></STRONG><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR>> From: cogworks@triad.rr.com<BR>> To: michaelstuart@gmail.com; archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR>> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:21:51 -0400<BR>> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atl-atl points<BR>> <BR>> I experienced the same issues with points coming off my atlatl darts.<BR>> But I've also experienced it with my arrows too. And yes, I've done all<BR>> the things required/suggested for keeping my arrow points on. HOWEVER,<BR>> while complaining to a relative who does a lot of wood working he<BR>> reminded me that epoxies most commonly available in the hardware stores,<BR>> along with just about all the arrow point adhesives, dry hard. Thus<BR>> after time the shock of hitting the target fractures the glue bond and<BR>> the point comes off. He told me there are epoxies that dry flexible.<BR>> One of which is Smooth On epoxy that bowyers use to glue up bows. I've<BR>> been using that ever since and do not lose points even when others do.<BR>> <BR>> Now as for style of point, Eirik is correct, bodkins would be<BR>> acceptable. Hunting broadheads and blunts are not acceptable. At one<BR>> shoot an individual was using blunts that left a hole in the target big<BR>> enough to stick your thumb in! I have a couple of bodkins I got a local<BR>> blacksmith to make for me for my atlatl darts and they work really well.<BR>> With any point, the trick to a great seal is to match the taper of the<BR>> shaft with the taper of the point. Whistling points are ideal because<BR>> you don't have to taper the shaft. They are designed to go over the<BR>> shaft and require a blunt end.<BR>> <BR>> One other thing I've learned about my atlatl darts is to give the shaft<BR>> a twist before pulling it out. This breaks the adhesion of the<BR>> shaft/point with the target/ground thereby saving the point. But your<BR>> best bet is to find some epoxy that dries flexible to put you points on<BR>> with.<BR>> <BR>> cog<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR>> [mailto:archers-bounces@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Mike<BR>> Matthews<BR>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:41 AM<BR>> To: archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR>> Subject: [Archers] Atl-atl points<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I like the small surform rasp (see picture at<BR>> http://www.qualitydist.net/sty-21-115.html) for bow making,<BR>> so it should make quick work of tapering your shafts to fit<BR>> the 23/64 points.<BR>> <BR>> Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but bodkin points are perfectly<BR>> legal for target archery; it's only broadheads (with razor edges for<BR>> hunting) that are not allowed.<BR>> <BR>> Bodkins are relatively easy to forge and can be made with a socket to<BR>> fit whatever size shaft you have. Check with your local blacksmith. Mild<BR>> steel works well and they don't even need heat treating. I can forge one<BR>> in less than an hour and probably with practice it would be around 15<BR>> minutes each or less.<BR>> <BR>> Eirik Gralokkr<BR>> Charlesbury Crossing, Barony of Sacred Stone<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ><BR>> > Message: 6<BR>> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:54:25 -0400<BR>> > From: Robyn Becker <reyne_telarius@hotmail.com><BR>> > To: <archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org><BR>> > Subject: [Archers] Atlatl points quest for info and ideas<BR>> > Message-ID: <COL117-W138FB01D8F1567927466B9F4E20@phx.gbl><BR>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Hi all! I was wondering, do we have a set standard for atlatl points?<BR>> <BR>> > I ask because I have been using 23/64" points - the largest field <BR>> > points I can find, and am not happy with them. Every time I hit a <BR>> > target, or even sometimes, the ground, I lose a point. The darts I <BR>> > have are all 1/2" in diameter, and I don't have the ability to taper <BR>> > the atlatl shaft down enough for the 23/64" points to have any decent <BR>> > surface contact with the shaft.<BR>> ><BR>> > 3RiversArchery has many types of points, including a long <BR>> > bodkin-shaped point which could accomodate the wood shafts I have. <BR>> > I'm tempted to buy some, and see how they work. But I don't know if <BR>> > there's anything ruling against them regarding the atlatl. I know <BR>> > they're not legal for regular arrow shafts.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Also, I'm looking to try making new darts from bamboo, and have been <BR>> > searching for something affordable and SCA legal to use as points. so<BR>> <BR>> > far, I've found some metal forged arrow-head points from 3Rivers, but <BR>> > again, the question of them being legal or not arises.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > And ideas, suggestions or just basics thoughts on this subject would <BR>> > be greatly appreciated.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Reyne<BR>> ><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Archers mailing list<BR>> Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR>> http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Archers mailing list<BR>> Archers@seahorse.atlantia.sca.org<BR>> http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/listinfo.cgi/archers-atlantia.sca.org<BR> <br /><hr />Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. 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