[Archers] Possible rules changes for IKAC's

[barysears]

Glad to hear it.  I've never had an accidental misfire with my combat 
crossbow.  Now, my target crossbow is another story . . . How will we be 
able to know which trigger mechanism is banned if it is internal?

barre

On 9/18/2013 4:32 PM, Jonathas wrote:
> Sorry, meant to reply to the entire list with this...
>
> Quite the opposite, the proposed rule (which is the last line) is 
> intended to disallow only the modern style of trigger/lock mechanism, 
> ie the ones we have been complaining about at Pennsic.  The current 
> rule (which is the second line) can be misread to disallow tickler 
> style triggers by someone not overly familiar with crossbows and the 
> different definitions.
>
> In the Period Crossbow Division Sir Jon is after the same thing we 
> are, getting rid of the restocked modern crossbows.
>
> Jonathas
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Jay Nardone <jaynardone at comcast.net 
> <mailto:jaynardone at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>     Good evening my friends. Not sure how many of you have been
>     following the posts on yahoo or Facebook about this topic so I
>     decided to repost it here. I will go on record and say I have
>     already made my posts completely against Sir John's thoughts. This
>     would essentially ban most of the crossbows we shoot in our
>     Kingdom from IKAC's which is crazy! What he calls "the tickler" is
>     the style trigger most of us are shooting. Since I have been in
>     the SCA both fighting and Target I can't think of one accidental
>     discharge I have ever witnessed due to someone being careless with
>     the trigger.
>
>     In Service,
>
>     Janyn
>
>     ·*This is regarding a possible change to the IKAC rules for Period
>     Crossbow. The rules currently read.
>
>     "To be counted as a period style crossbow all the following
>     conditions must be met: 1) The stock must be made of wood. 2) It
>     may not have a rifle-style butt. 3) It may not have a modern style
>     lock (period forms of self-resetting mechanisms are fine, however)
>     or a trigger. 4) It may not have sights."
>
>     Part 3: can be read as to not allow any form of trigger. When I
>     first wrote the rules, the intent was not to allow any form of
>     "modern" release mechanism or any "modern" trigger. The definition
>     of "trigger" is: "a small device that releases a spring or catch
>     and so sets off a mechanism, esp. in order to fire a gun." The way
>     it currently reads it can also be read to not allow a tickler, the
>     long lever style that runs parallel to the crossbow stock which
>     acts as a trigger to the rolling nut, pin or claw. It also does
>     not allow the use of late per...iod 1400's through 1500's multi
>     axle lock mechanisms that used the short trigger, perpendicular to
>     the stock, as in guns of that period. This type of release was
>     common on the better late period target crossbows and the trigger
>     was protected by a trigger guard. Some of these guards can be
>     mistaken for a tickler because they resemble them and others look
>     like the trigger guard on a hand gun.
>
>     The Keeper of the IKAC felt feel that discussion at SCA Archery on
>     Yahoo previously, had indicated that the use of triggers on
>     crossbows was thought to be unsafe and that it should not be
>     allowed. My opinion is that the use of a trigger with a trigger
>     guard is safer than the use of a tickler style trigger or even a
>     thumb lever located on the top of the stock, because they are not
>     protected and can be accidentally bumped and the lock released.
>
>     I would like to hear your opinions on this. Should the rule be
>     changed next year to say "3) It may not have a modern style lock
>     (period forms of self-resetting mechanisms are fine, however) or a
>     modern trigger.*
>
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