Sorry wrong battle at Poitiers, I was referring to the battle in 733: Battle at Poitiers: Charles Martel beats Abd al-Rachmans Omajjaden Grabbed the wrong info. Grimm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://seahorse.atlantia.sca.org/pipermail/archers-atlantia.sca.org/attachments/20131017/bbcaef5d/attachment-0002.htm>