[Archers] MiC Qualifications - was: Re: Ymir & Archery

[ktarg1 at yahoo.com]

I like the idea. As I stated yesterday, I actually am looking autocrating an event in the future and would love to take an overview class that would help be be a better lead for the event so I will make it more fun for everyone attending. Including the marshals.

YIS
Alwin
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From: John Atkins <cogworks at triad.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:42:10 
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Subject: Re: [Archers] MiC Qualifications - was: Re: Ymir & Archery

Not that any of my suggestions are the final word, God I hope not!, but this post causes me to do a rethink and I think the archery group could be the lead in this.  I might even get stupid enough to lead the effort.......might...........

Here's the idea:  Instead of requiring autocrats or event MICs to take the marshal class for archery, equestrian and heavy, my original three suggested disciplines, we have a single class that covers the " what you need to know" about live weapons, rapier, heavy, and equestrian.  The objective is to provide autocrats and event MICs with an overview knowledge of these activities requirements.  This single class would also act as less of a deterent to those who would like to do these functions.

Thoughts?

Cog
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On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:03 PM, ktarg1 at yahoo.com wrote:

> As someone who is looking at being an autocrat in the forseeable future, I would be happy to take a basic autocrat course that gave a basic knowledge of all the disaplines so I had a better understanding of the needs of each. 
> I am an archery MIT now and will be taking the position of the "Canton Archery Marshal" in Falcon Cree when warranted. I am open to any and all information available.
> If it is not required for an autocrat to take this course I would state it to be highly recommended. So as to make it more appealing to all those interested in their future event successes.
> 
> YIS,
> Lord Alwin of Nottinghill Coill
> Mka
> Matthew Power
> Falcon Cree "Archery MIT"
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> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:40:55 
> To: <siegfried at crossbows.biz>
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> Subject: Re: [Archers] MiC Qualifications - was: Re: Ymir & Archery
> 
> Siegfried, 
> 
> You beat me to it :)
> My understanding of the proposed new 'warrant' would 
> be to cover all of the aspect of completely running an event.
> What you say they you have been practicing at HRM is just the
> type of thing that was discussed.  The MiC is the organization
> and paperwork jockey for the event.  There is no reason to 
> be fully versed in the activities, just have someone who is
> running that section :)
> 
> The discussion also covered the concerns about possibly 
> limiting the number of MiCs, and Jos and others understood, 
> but felt that it wouldn't come to pass --- to be seen :)
> 
> Jos is the one (or one of the main movers) organizing the
> new class.  There was a bit of difference of opinion as to
> whether marshal 201 already or would soon cover this,
> or whether a 301 class would be needed.
> 
> Questions should probably directed to Jos, as the DEM for
> training :)
> 
> (it helps to be a multi-marshal, but it painfully fills up
> most of the slots at unevent :))
> 
> Dealla
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Siegfried <siegfried at crossbows.biz>
> To: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [Archers] MiC Qualifications - was: Re: Ymir & Archery
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:11:14 -0500
> 
> I've been staying out of this thread, because I believe that others
> (Janyn, Cog, Lorelei, Karl, etc) are saying everything well.
> 
> But I wanted to respond to this one side-point, which I disagree with:
> 
>> I also believe that if you are going to be MIC of an event, you need to
>> be versed in all the disciplines that are going to be there.
> 
> I will contend that point.  One doesn't not been to be well versed with
> all the disciplines (though, it can certainly make things easier).   One
> simply needs to be good at delegation, trust their warranted marshals
> underneath of them, and support them.
> 
> We've had a strong tradition for a while up here in the North, of
> having, say, a Thrown Weapons Marshal, be the MiC of a large event like
> Highland River Melees - (Where there might not even be Thrown Weapons
> happening!)
> 
> And those situations have often been the absolute best.   Because the
> person would find deputies to run each of the activities, trust them to
> do so, trust their decisions, and then in turn, simply help provide
> oversight between all the activities (helping coordinate their
> schedules), solve any site issues that are presented, help general
> layout of the event taking the various marshals information into
> account, clear any roadblocks, and support their marshals expertly.
> 
> While having no idea how Heavy combat, or Archery, or Rapier, is done.
> 
> And I don't see any issues with that at all :)
> 
> Siegfried
> 
> PS.  That being said, I certainly don't have a problem with having some
> MiC training, that specifically drives that concept home.   I am
> concerned however that adding a separate MiC training, at any more
> effort than a single class & checkmark on your card.  Might harm events
> more than help, as it would reduce the number of people who would MiC an
> event.
> 
> 
> 
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