[Archers] Youth Target Archery Marshal Program

Thu Jun 2 12:42:31 PDT 2011

Actually, there have been other youth Marshals, whom have now grown to
adults and now serve us as Marshals in Atlantia.

Both children of our old Friend Allen of Wolfhowe, Bubba and his sister, and
excuse me, I so forget her name but not her face..

So, this is not a NEW program, just refreshed.

Marco

From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of
loreleielkins at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:23 PM
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: [Archers] Youth Target Archery Marshal Program

My friends,   

You most certainly DO have input on what goes on, as I promised I would do
in my term as DEM. I have in no way broken that agreement. That is why I
posted the information to this list. Your input is needed on the structure
and details of the program, which are not set yet.

No, I did not ask everyone if we should or should not have such a program in
the first place, as that was my call and those whom I asked or volunteered
to contribute ideas for a Youth Marshal in Training program. 

There is a very good reason why we have a young man already a Youth Marshal
in Training.  It is not a reason I am prepared to discuss in a public forum.
If you have an overwhelming need to know, you can contact me privately.

Lorelei

-----Original Message-----
From: Holly Gibbons <holly0920 at yahoo.com>
To: archers <archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Thu, Jun 2, 2011 10:47 am
Subject: Re: [Archers] Youth Target Archery Marshal Program

To my fellow archery marshals:

I am in agreement with Eldred's thoughtful and insightful comments.

I, too, was under the impression that this new program was a proposal under
consideration and that Atlantia's archery marshals were being asked for
feedback, when in fact we have just heard the program's already decided and
already announced and apparently already populated with at least one youth.
It seems our opinions as marshals had and will have no bearing on the
program which we are now asked to implement.

I know this is a top-down monarchy, this game we play, so I will gladly do
whatever I'm told. But the hypocrisy kind of bothers me. Am I even allowed
to voice this without fear that I am too insubordinate?

Nuala

Original Message: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:48:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eldred AElfwald < <mailto:dragonazure at yahoo.com>
dragonazure at yahoo.com>
To:  <mailto:archers at atlantia.sca.org> archers at atlantia.sca.org,
<mailto:tazzi_693 at yahoo.com> tazzi_693 at yahoo.com,  <mailto:Geldamar at aol.com>
Geldamar at aol.com,
     <mailto:loreleielkins at aol.com> loreleielkins at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Archers] Youth Target Archery Marshal Program
Greetings fellow archers and marshals!

Considering Their Majesties' desire to align the laws and policies of
Atlantia, I would recommend setting the YTAM age at 16 years old.? This is
the age they are permitted to authorize for heavy combat and the age at
which the Chancellor of Youth Activities has set for their?Officers:
1.7.2.9.2.2.1   All Chancellors Minor must be at least 16 years of age and a
paid member of the SCA. 

Also, does this program fall under the same rules and regulations as the
Youth Activities programs? E.g. background checks?

I'm a little disturbed that the deed has been done without a discussion of
the potential rules changes first. If we collectively agree to a policy that
is contrary to what has been done, I have no problem "grandfathering" the
existing marshals into the program because it would be unfair to force them
out "ex post facto".

In service,
Eldred AElfwald

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