[Archers] I'd like to point out.....

Thu Sep 16 08:42:22 PDT 2010

I'd like to say on a personal note that I have never experienced a problem with 
autocrat cooperation.  I have on occasion driven several hours to a site 
to "check it out" when I am TA Mic for an event in another Barony or have had a 
reputable marshall check out the site for me (and I have had the opportunity to 
TA Mic for other baronies on numerous occasions).

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From: "loreleielkins at aol.com" <loreleielkins at aol.com>
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:33:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....

I think it is a good idea, Stefan, Janyn and Katarzyna,  that I contacted the 
autocrats group and ask that this detail be included in their Unevent classes in 
some way.  Consider it done.

Lorelei

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Kiefert <lanhamlaw at att.net>
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....

Ideally, you need to go the site ahead of time and tell the autocrat which area 
would be a legal range if they want archery.  This is what happened at 
Assessment, where he planned on using the archery range already there and 
luckily I went by and had to tell him that it was not even close to safe so we 
arranged to use another area.

For future, sometimes there is a class at University on running an event and 
archery range size could be mentioned there.

Stefan

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Jay Nardone <jaynardone at comcast.net> wrote:

>From: Jay Nardone <jaynardone at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....
>To: loreleielkins at aol.com, archers at atlantia.sca.org
>Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 8:12 PM
>
>
>Lorelei all great points! I would like to add that one of the biggest issues I 
>see is the lack of understanding by many autocrats. I know we have discussed 
>this but I would like to see implement some way to train autocrats on the new 
>safety rules and why we can’t simply “stuff” archery in the back 40 anymore just 
>because they want it out of the way. Not finger pointing here at all but I have 
>personally witnessed this on numerous occasions again this year. After talking 
>with the autocrats, they were unaware of the new rules changes and why we needed 
>a more suitable area. I would hate to pile another requirement on autocrats but 
>I’m seriously wondering if we can get them to take the archery marshal’s class 
>or hold a special one so they can understand the safety aspects. My shoot in 
>October in the Barony is basically being left up to us marshal’s of each 
>activity to work out concerning the layout of the site. I have repeatedly asked 
>that this be worked out prior to us all getting there. I submitted my layout and 
>suggestion and fear it will be a free for all when we all get there. 
>
> 
>I think if we can get them more involved with us, they will understand our needs 
>better…..
> 
>Janyn
> 
>From:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org 
>[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of 
>loreleielkins at aol.com
>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:00 PM
>To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
>Subject: [Archers] I'd like to point out.....
>
>Greetings,
>
>Many of us have discussed on and off about the lack of recognition or the 
>seeming lack of respect that the archery community often appears to get.  I want 
>to address this.  First, it is the nature of our discipline that causes us to be 
>relegated to the back-40 of most events.  For safety reasons this is not a bad 
>thing, but it does make archery out of sight (and therefore out of mind) for 
>many of the populace.  How do we get around this? 
>
>
>Easy answer: It is up to us to change things. Each and every one of us. Period.
>
>Hard answer:
>
>1. Invite Royalty/your Baronage to visit the archery range....every event, every 
>time. They will eventually make it out there.
>
>2. Make sure archery awards, results of shoots and tournaments get recognized in 
>court on equal level with other disciplines. Talk to the people you need to 
>ahead of time. "I will be awarding the prize for the shoot....." or "Could you 
>have the Baroness award the prize for....."
>
>3. If necessary, write it out for the autocrat/herald/Baronage, etc., who, what, 
>where, they did, why it was amazing.
>
>4. Submit fellow archers for awards.  If there is not an award specifically for 
>archery, put them in for something service oriented and spell out how their 
>efforts are a service and how they enhance The Dream.
>
>5. Talk up archery prior to events.  Make sure your information is posted on 
>event fliers, but post that to all the e-lists as well, more than once.
>
>6. Invite newcomers to the range (make provisions for this ahead of time.)  If 
>they loved it (and they will if you're doing it right), they will tell everyone 
>about it and come back.
>
>7. Look Good!!  Okay, yeah...we already look good....we're archers, its in our 
>nature.  BUT, go the extra effort so that when people see you there with your 
>kit they say, "Wow, s/he looks great. I want to be like them."
>
>8. Encourage youth to the range...encourage the non-fighting community to the 
>range.  Many people want to participate in an art of warfare but will not put on 
>the armor.  No problem, we'll give them archery.
>
>9.  At all times, be a good representative of the Atlantian archery community. 
>Hold yourself to a higher standard. Don't piss and moan in public about not 
>getting the glory.  Instead, make it happen.
>
>10.  Teach archery, Teach atlatl, Teach our youth, share, encourage, cheer 
>archery. Loud.  Make noise. 
>
>
>11. Make sure at every Collegium and University or even at events that there are 
>archery related classes offered. Request them, or offer to teach them.  History, 
>shooting technique, fletching, target making, point smithing, how to build your 
>kit, whatever your passion is.
>
>I'm sure other people will have additions to this list and I welcome your 
>thoughts.  I understand that at one time in this Kingdom archery was perceived 
>as the read headed step child of SCA activities.  Many people have worked long 
>and hard to bring it to the status it now enjoys.  It has come a long way, in 
>both participation and legitimacy.  Do your part to make sure archery is always 
>in the forefront at events, demos, awards, etc. 
>
>
>Also, if you have not yet participated in the SCA Census. It can be found here: 
>http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SCA2010Census I encourage you to fill it out.
>
>In service to the archery community in Atlantia and to The Dream
>Lorelei Greenleafe
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