[Archers] Trying to make some sense...

John Atkins cogworks at triad.rr.com
Tue Jul 20 06:22:03 PDT 2010


I think Baron Gracious (never let a good opportunity go unused!) and Fen
are on the same page here, just saying slighting different versions.  I
would suggest that the proposed situation, a hostile autocrat, is easily
dealt with by getting involved with them long before the date of the
event.  We had a very similar situation happen in my area precipitated
by the new range rule.  Where we typically had the archery range was
great because it was highly visible.  It was marginal according to the
previous rule but the new rule deemed the range unsafe.  (It remains
unsafe because it is now used by the questrians for their activities and
we all know what horse leave behind, but I stray from my point.)  We are
now on the other side of the lake in the "back 40".  However, this move
was done in concert with the autocrat of the latest event and several
upcoming events at the site.

cog

-----Original Message-----
From: archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:archers-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of
Siegfried
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:14 AM
To: fenrisulven at comcast.net
Cc: archers at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Trying to make some sense...


> /I'm sorry Fen, but it's the autocrats event.  If the autocrat decides

> at 2pm that they don't want any archery.  Then there isn't any 
> archery. The MIC has no 'power' to say "Up Yours Autocrat, you gave me

> this space, now it's mine"/
> 
> You're right, I see that.  But if safety is our #1 priority, then that

> structure needs to be changed.

No Fen, you are still looking at this from the POV that the archers have
a 'right' to be there.

Safety IS our #1 priority.  Which is why if the autocrat chooses to not
give us enough space to shoot safely.  It's our job, and within our
power, to SHUT DOWN THE RANGE.

That is the one 'trump card' that marshals have.  We don't have the
right to demand more space so that we CAN shoot safely, or to 'outrank'
the autocrat and tell them 'no' that we own that space.

Similarly, an autocrat cannot 'make us shoot', if we say it's unsafe.

Though again, all this should be an 'extreme outer case' anyway, as
there should hopefully be a smooth working relationship between autocrat
and marshal(s).  If not, that's something the local group & Seneschal
will be dealing with after the fact.

Siegfried


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